The rank-and-file military didn't BETRAY their country, they are following orders or else they'd be COURT-MARTIALED. What did you want them to do? Shoot up the WH? I don't see you storming capitals, so don't you dare call our troops betrayers when you don't know fucking jack.
I wish I could find an old essay I read from a retired Colonel. It was in the vein of why the military would comply with gun confiscation orders.
He argued that the military would never refuse an illegal order (like gun confiscation) because their training focused on discipline and following orders and never even broaches the topic of how to resist an illegal order. He sited a bunch of times throughout history where service members obeyed illegal orders, including blatant ones.
In the military, obedience and discipline are more important than oaths and loyalty.
Well said, I've seen numerous people on here claim that the military or police would never follow orders to confiscate guns. Simply not true at all, they WILL follow those orders.
Anyone who exists as a soldier for a desk jockey will be forced to come to your door and confiscate your guns. They will fear for their lives and will be jumpy as shit.
And you will wonder if you should give up your life to take out an armed grunt. You know that if enough die, they will stop coming, but you think your life is worth more than just one of these dick-heads. So maybe you'll wait for a better opportunity, let them take your guns this time. Maybe you can hide one or two. Maybe someone else was able to hide one or two. Maybe you can make some ammo in the future. Maybe you can make a pipe rifle with some know-how. Maybe you can take one out with a shovel next time they come.
Agreed. Which is why if they are told to take the guns they WILL take them. They will just be "following orders!" as an excuse to do it too. Just look at the bootlickers in the comments. I get the idea of following orders but if you are given the order to shoot Americans how could you in good conscience obey that?? I would rather be court-martialed than do something that heinous. Yet we have people in the comments saying that would be justified because they would just be following orders lol.
I'll call it exactly as it is. The national guard, everyone in the military, has a duty and oath to uphold the Constitution. They refused to do so, and while the top ranks of course deserve more blame, everyone has a choice.
I guess you support the targeting of anyone in the military who is a republican or has supported Trump. And fuck off, I've said before, I've done more than you and I'll put my knowledge up against yours or anyone else who wants to attack what I've done for the country. I don't need to know your resume for me to be confident in mine.
Get the fuck out of here with your boxcar bullshit. If it's that bad, why haven't YOU done something? I'll tell you why, because you're a weak little cuck who bashes soldiers for things you wouldn't dare do yourself. You'd prefer they would have died mounting an assault on capital hill. You're a pathetic excuse of an American.
These people are retarded. They think it's 1856 and you can take over America by seizing 3 or 4 buildings.
The military probably voted 80% for Trump and most would die for him if there was a target to go after. But there just isn't. It's social media, mainstream media, heads of armed forces, heads of 3 letter agencies, RINOs, Dems, Governors, Dominion, local judges, etc., etc.
Lmao. Except to my knowledge there's literally no such thing as a "military ballot". The military will get absentee ballots, which are indistinguishable from any other absentee ballot. Maybe one state has specific "military ballots".
Of course you would know this if you weren't a cowardly faggot who never served, or you actually bothered to ever learn anything and didn't just read bullshit conspiracy fake news, like a brainless NPC.
Are you a glowie, a socialist, or just a bad troll?
Yes military votes via absontee, but the treasonous riggers and fraudsters know which ballots are military ballots. Not because there is some special insignia, logo, or markings, but because they know where the ballots are coming from. Stationed overseas, they will know those absontee ballots are from the military.
You know damn well yam was referring to that and you still attacked him.
Just for fun I went back and checked all the 2000+ upvoted military ballot posts (not fun navigating on mobile). I didn't see a lot of contribution or discussion from you, or at least this account. Yes I mean absentee ballots from military sources obviously, again mobile sucks for eloquent thorough posting. Just in case you weren't online for the last three months : https://patriots.win/search?params=Military+ballot
I'm so fucking sick of people like you.
The rank-and-file military didn't BETRAY their country, they are following orders or else they'd be COURT-MARTIALED. What did you want them to do? Shoot up the WH? I don't see you storming capitals, so don't you dare call our troops betrayers when you don't know fucking jack.
Did they, or didn't they take an oath to uphold the Constitution? Enemies foreign AND DOMESTIC, no?
If they're told all Trump voters are terrorists and they have to slaughter them, follow orders?
C'mon, man!
I wish I could find an old essay I read from a retired Colonel. It was in the vein of why the military would comply with gun confiscation orders.
He argued that the military would never refuse an illegal order (like gun confiscation) because their training focused on discipline and following orders and never even broaches the topic of how to resist an illegal order. He sited a bunch of times throughout history where service members obeyed illegal orders, including blatant ones.
In the military, obedience and discipline are more important than oaths and loyalty.
Well said, I've seen numerous people on here claim that the military or police would never follow orders to confiscate guns. Simply not true at all, they WILL follow those orders.
Only the local police would resist.
Anyone who exists as a soldier for a desk jockey will be forced to come to your door and confiscate your guns. They will fear for their lives and will be jumpy as shit.
And you will wonder if you should give up your life to take out an armed grunt. You know that if enough die, they will stop coming, but you think your life is worth more than just one of these dick-heads. So maybe you'll wait for a better opportunity, let them take your guns this time. Maybe you can hide one or two. Maybe someone else was able to hide one or two. Maybe you can make some ammo in the future. Maybe you can make a pipe rifle with some know-how. Maybe you can take one out with a shovel next time they come.
Agreed. Which is why if they are told to take the guns they WILL take them. They will just be "following orders!" as an excuse to do it too. Just look at the bootlickers in the comments. I get the idea of following orders but if you are given the order to shoot Americans how could you in good conscience obey that?? I would rather be court-martialed than do something that heinous. Yet we have people in the comments saying that would be justified because they would just be following orders lol.
Nuremberg was so recent and we this exact line of thinking come up again. Clearly it's a human nature problem.
But that’s pre-Holocaust. Nuremberg ended “just following orders”.
See: The Bonus Army. Gen. MacArthur uses tanks and bayonets to clear out veterans camping in D.C. looking for their WWI promised bonuses.
https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/73642/1932-us-army-kicks-us-veterans-out-washington
'Just following orders' isn't a defense either.
People are the top just shitting on people at the bottom either way I guess.
It is a defense when your side wins.
This so much. I'm so used to everything being extremely cucked these days, so it wouldn't surprise me if military bends over and acts cucked as well.
They took an oath to defend "our greatest ally"
*is POTUS
They don't get to decide who the enemy is.
I'll call it exactly as it is. The national guard, everyone in the military, has a duty and oath to uphold the Constitution. They refused to do so, and while the top ranks of course deserve more blame, everyone has a choice.
I guess you support the targeting of anyone in the military who is a republican or has supported Trump. And fuck off, I've said before, I've done more than you and I'll put my knowledge up against yours or anyone else who wants to attack what I've done for the country. I don't need to know your resume for me to be confident in mine.
The glow is strong in this one
Will you be saying that when they show up on your doorstep to escort you to the boxcar?
Get the fuck out of here with your boxcar bullshit. If it's that bad, why haven't YOU done something? I'll tell you why, because you're a weak little cuck who bashes soldiers for things you wouldn't dare do yourself. You'd prefer they would have died mounting an assault on capital hill. You're a pathetic excuse of an American.
That was a rather long-winded way of saying "yes."
Goes back to the original question he asked - why haven't you done something? Why is it all on the NG units? Why is it not even on their commanders?
Another bootlicker here making excuses for treason. Very sad.
These people are retarded. They think it's 1856 and you can take over America by seizing 3 or 4 buildings.
The military probably voted 80% for Trump and most would die for him if there was a target to go after. But there just isn't. It's social media, mainstream media, heads of armed forces, heads of 3 letter agencies, RINOs, Dems, Governors, Dominion, local judges, etc., etc.
Excellent point. The targets are embedded in a LOT of places.
It's a hydra. If you cut off one head, you just draw the ire of the other heads.
You have to starve the beast.
Military ballots were over 90% Biden
What a terrible attempt at bullshitting 😂
Lmao. Except to my knowledge there's literally no such thing as a "military ballot". The military will get absentee ballots, which are indistinguishable from any other absentee ballot. Maybe one state has specific "military ballots".
Of course you would know this if you weren't a cowardly faggot who never served, or you actually bothered to ever learn anything and didn't just read bullshit conspiracy fake news, like a brainless NPC.
Are you a glowie, a socialist, or just a bad troll?
Yes military votes via absontee, but the treasonous riggers and fraudsters know which ballots are military ballots. Not because there is some special insignia, logo, or markings, but because they know where the ballots are coming from. Stationed overseas, they will know those absontee ballots are from the military.
You know damn well yam was referring to that and you still attacked him.
Just for fun I went back and checked all the 2000+ upvoted military ballot posts (not fun navigating on mobile). I didn't see a lot of contribution or discussion from you, or at least this account. Yes I mean absentee ballots from military sources obviously, again mobile sucks for eloquent thorough posting. Just in case you weren't online for the last three months : https://patriots.win/search?params=Military+ballot