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Raycis -1 points ago +0 / -1

All due respect, it seems you just admitted you are a Canadian. Were you just trying to point out since your situation is hopeless, so is America’s?

There is great irony that you are a Canadian disseminating a defeatist attitude on an America first forum, calling me and others who think like me a fool for wanting to remain active, prepare, organize, stop the fraud, and vote —how many others like you are foreigners telling us not to vote? Amazing. And you say subversion is nauseating. And you quote Yuri.

Everyone reading this forum should first ask where all these people with rotten attitudes are from.

Firstly, no one said not to do whatever possible to stop fraud. There are still legal means to fix the vote. And whether or not to support the old or a new party is up in the air right now. There are no details, no public information or support for either path, and fraud has to be first on the table.

Edit: Doesn’t Canada have multiple parties? A citizen of a failed state that splits the vote between multiple parties thinks we should give up and/or vote third party. Peak foreign socialist subversion.

Edit 2: At least you were honest about where you come from. I am amazed at you. Foreign nationals are subverting this forum and being magnified by huge upvote ratios. You are legion.

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VoteCyborgTrump2040 1 point ago +1 / -0

It seems I just admitted? It's not something I hide you dumb shit. I talk about it all the time. It's irrelevant to the discussion though, but you can think otherwise if it makes you feel better.

It's funny how you just concentrate on something stupid like this, instead of addressing anything I said. Because you don't have any real solutions. You can't address anything I said, other than with "just be optimistic for no reason".

You may think your optimism is helpful, but it's not. People need to come up with real solutions. They won't do that if they get focused on things that won't work. Your optimism isn't about fixing the problem, it's about making you feel better about reality. Having everyone commit their time, energy, and money to something that has literally 0% chance of working, but pretend that it does is not going to help anyone, other than comfort them by deluding them in to thinking reality isn't as bleak as it is.

And I never said not to vote, that's retarded. Obviously you should vote, just don't expect it to do anything. Traditional means have been exhausted. You say there are still ways to fix the vote, but you don't get specific, because it's just blind optimism, and you don't even know whether it's true or how it could be achieved.

For the third time, I'm all ears for solutions. And instead of calling my valid criticisms of your plans pessimism, find some way to actually address the issue.

PS Yuri was from a shithole communist country. Will you discount what he says because his "rotten mindset" comes from a foreign country? Ever think that maybe people who are in an advanced stage are more tuned in to reality, and less delusionally optimistic? Optimism without a basis is placation that breeds inaction or futile action.

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Raycis 1 point ago +1 / -0

Fair enough. What do you think Americans should do? What are the “non traditional options”? You want to see us fight Civil War 2?

If you know anything about Yuri, you would know he advocated for nonviolent religious revolt through church, embracing free principles, and local political activism.

You claim I have no specifics, yet I have seen nothing specific from people like you, besides violence, which is surely impossible for most Americans due to lack of organization and resources. You seem to think we all have guns, a stash of ammo, buddies to fight beside, and ample supplies for a siege with the Feds.

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VoteCyborgTrump2040 1 point ago +1 / -0

You think I don't know you're a subverter and likely a glowie? Nobody mentioned violence except you, many, many times. And you keep trying to lead me to saying it like a police interrogator. Fucking moron. Violence likely wouldn't do anything anyway. It would just get a lot of patriots killed by the absurd amount of police, federal agents, marshals, national guard, state level law enforcement, etc.

And as for Yuri, he said it would take at least 20 years if they had started then, in the 70s, and that didn't happen. It's been a long time since then. The left even owns most of the churches now. Preaching woke politics in the church. I don't think Yuri would have been very optimistic at this point.

And I've already told you I don't know the solutions. I just don't want faggots like you to put people back on the hamster wheel, spending all their time, energy, and money on futile endeavors for the sake of coping with a bleak reality. I'd rather people see clearly, so they can possibly come up with solutions.