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Assault-Covfefe 83 points ago +83 / -0

No, no, no...you've had a little too much to think. Vaccine related deaths are just deaths from other causes. It's the Coof deaths that are Coof deaths.

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kodama 21 points ago +23 / -2

79.4% of babies who die of sids had a vaccine within 24 hours as per the CDC but don't worry "it's a coincidence"

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Thanagor 6 points ago +8 / -2

Given the timetable and lack of control group(s) (at least that I'm aware of), it would be hard to make that an actionable statistic (e.g. 100% of people who drink water die).

I'm oddly impartial on the topic of pro/anti-vax since I only see it as a practical tool - if used correctly its clearly preferable, but only if 'used correctly' is clearly defined and, well, clear.

Do you have a source on the 79.4% #? I'm interested in having a reference for deep-diving the topic.

Edit: I don't oppose doubts levied against vaccines, but those doubts don't have much connection/impact unless there's a clear connection to an actionable problem. The more general or disconnected the doubt, the less impact a doubt has in my mind (not nay-saying - just as an honest feedback).

To achieve impact, I'd reach past the actual vaccines themselves. I'd transparently highlight any investigative triggers (interest-arousing problem areas: X% of group, X% of vaccine, X% mortality = informal indicator). Second, I'd begin a formal analysis of actual [cause] -> [effect], such as >X% of [substance] = commonality across groups. This is just the bare-tip of formal because that is still correlation. It morphs into actionable once either 1) tests can reliably isolate its effects and/or 2) the cause-effect chain can be proven to not result from any other complex interaction(s) with other drug components, other drugs, patient physiology/biological makeup, other patient attributes, disease/syndrome effects, etc. This information is NOT intended to discourage your/our pursuit of the truth. It also isn't intended to alieviate the responsibility of drug manufacturers, etc. from adequate testing & legal culpability for unreasable conduct, but if we're going to make substantial assertions, it serves the seriousness with which we originally took up the topic to have real reasons/ownership for what we believe. That is all. =)