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ShyRipley 1 point ago +1 / -0

He's already impeached in the House, for a second time. Impeachment is like an indictment, a charge.

The "trial" portion in the Senate is to acquit or convict him.

If convicted, they can strip his SS detail, bar him from serving in a federal position of power again... it's kinda serious. We still don't even know if the trial portion is constitutionally legal, since impeachment and conviction was written to "remove a President from his office" and at this point he is already gone from the office and is now a private citizen.

I say let him have the time to let this thing ride out... but that's just me.

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Bonami 2 points ago +2 / -0

All you say is true, serious and true.

But consider, the call to impeach him is political, any impeachment in the Senate will be political. Justice will not be found in either House.

Their goal is to entangle him in BS, to show the world they have power over him.

This is his Atlas Shrugged moment. He should tell them the charges are specious and he refuses to acknowledge their right to impeach him as he is no longer in office.

Let them spin their wheels and impeach him without him participating in any way.

Does he want to run again, probably not. Does he want to form a new political party and fight back using the power he has which is support of 75million people? I hope so.

Did you see they want to prevent Republicans from joining the military? Do you think they will stop there? Do you have any idea how close we are to seeing camps in our future, in our children's future?

We need him to take the helm and create a new political party NOW.

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ShyRipley 2 points ago +2 / -0

You get an updoot just for the Atlas Shrugged reference :)

What you say is not wrong. I just... man, I just will not blame him if he wants to play this thing out slowly. You know?

I see both sides of the coin... either one can make Trump even stronger in the eyes of the MAGA base. I just... call me soft, I don't mind, but I want him and his family safe before the next fight.

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Bonami 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thanks, loved that book.

Congress is now gone as a legal entity all it is now is a bear pit. Any involvement works for them, his interaction with them would make them "real."

He needs to strip away any pretense of their legitimacy by laughing at them and saying you desperate people, I am out of office, yet still you fear me. F*** off, you have no power to impeach a private citizen.

I want him safe as well, but unless he kills this Cerberus by creating a new political party, hopefully uniting the Bernie Bros with Libertarians, Independents and Deplorables, creating a massive wave to take down BOTH parties none of us will be safe. Ever.

It can be done but he needs to start NOW. (Cerberus photo :) https://i.pinimg.com/736x/c9/15/f1/c915f1e7fab19c4031696ab680121d92.jpg