iPhones are great products. They are so great that you can keep your model for 7 years. Just imagine: instead of upgrading every 2 years, upgrade every 7 years with the budget model. Sales will PLUMMET if you just hold onto your current phone as long as possible.
I've had 8 phones in 6 years though and they all ended up with issues. Their laptops used to be great until they moved away from the unibody construction and made it so you couldn't swap out even more of the internals
Not even sure if you can upgrade the ram or replace the batteries in the new stuff without being "apple certified" unless you're tech savvy and don't mind voiding the warranty
Here's the kicker: Jailbreak it. I guarantee you, the updates are not "updates" they are downgrades. Keep your phone on the same version and it will never have problems.
How you liking Lineage? I'm considering the swap myself. That or Graphene. I'm no coder but I'm mega impressed with the world of Linux and I'm constantly reading
This is true. I read the privacy policies n have written manny for my job. Apple protects data slightly better than Google — n Google is aggressively evil. Like CNN of tech companies.
^this. Besides the obvious benefit of open source software normally being free, you can look at what the software is actually doing. As an engineer, I resist black boxes as much as I can. Run Linux!
They're clueless. They might have some end to end encryption but Apple always has a backdoor in and a stickynote from a 3 letter agency for made up reasons would get them to and everything over
I'm convinced G Board is a keylogger so I've got no clue how bad iOS is going to be
Uh, I’m skeptical of the assertion that Apple is less secure about privacy than Android. Because with Apple you’re still a customer buying a product. With Google and Android, you are the product.
Sure, there’s privacy concerns as there are with any constantly-connected service that you carry with you everywhere, but this whole “Apple is always bad” bullshit is just bullshit.
They get a bunch of shit for having their stuff made at FoxConn, but like 90% of electronics brands also have their products made there, yet there’s never a peep about them.
Where have I seen this hypocrisy before? It’s a real mystery...
You mean when they ask you to sign in with an Apple ID you hit the box in the corner that says "Set up without Apple ID." It really doesn't seem that difficult.
I believe the newest version you first have to hit “I don’t have an Apple ID” then on that screen you have to hit “I wish to do this later” or something similar.
Compared to most of the setup options it’s definitely obscure.
Fantastic for audio, also got me used to command line stuff for Linux given it's a Unix distribution
I've got one of those "PCMasterRace" dork friends who looks amazed that I can throw something in Wine and get it working just fine out of the box while he has to download all those patches that are designed to slow his system down and do little else
I'm mentally ready to embrace a live without all this technocrat bullshit. These companies all are to big to fail and need to be broken up, there is no way for anyone to compete.
Professionals. Law business medicine. Not saying that’s good but there are plenty of us who bed smart phones and will for the remainder of our careers. iPhone is lesser tech but slightly better privacy imo
Amazon is far more diversified than Apple. Also harder to boycott their cheaper essential product retail business. I don’t like them both but Apple is absolutely a low hanging fruit not to mention it’d be a giant message impossible to ignore if they gone down due to patriots
Apple requires to meet hardware sales on each quarter. Most of their services depend on those hardware sales. Miss a quarter unexpectedly and it snow balls from there
My wife set up a bank account and got a free ipad. I made her give it away for free because I didn't want it in my house.
I don't even allow my sons friends to use my wifi if they have apple crap.
The neighbor across the street named his 2 wifi networks 'Pete's Guest Network" and "Pete's Apple Network" so I named my wifi "Pete's Gay Porn Network".
I feel like you have two serious choices for a phone: Android OS or iOS. I recall reading that Android has at least 3 known 'backdoors' for remote access and Apple still has zero. In addition, Apple doesn't send data back to the server unless it tells you it's going to per various people who have done extensive testing. Apple will send data back only if you have the options allowed, such as "help improve maps" and "Help improve siri" and "Send crash data back to app developers." The guy doing the testing was quite extensive, driving around and walking around town with phones in airplane mode with all tracking features disabled and then connecting to a wifi network he controlled and watching what traffic went out. TLDR the iPhone didn't 'phone home' but the Android phone started tryin to get data to the Google servers including trip duration, method of travel (based on accelerometer) and wifi network data collected even while in Airplane.
Meanwhile, iOS sent back no data at all. 0 bytes. Furthermore, Apple claims all over it's website that it's still secure.
They're both known evil companies with bad practices, but Google seems worse. I see Apple as the lesser of two evils style choice. I also recognize that in the long run it doesn't much matter, they're both probably tracking you in various ways.
All I’m saying is don’t buy a new phone. Hold on to your current phone for 3 more years and Apple will be the neck Nokia. The market and whoever else wants to to take over Apple’s depletes mobile business will be very aware as to why this happened. Why? $ize matters. We have to power to destroy 2 trillion worth of commie managed $$. A big message
What’s the alternative? Honestly we have ranks literally filled with professionals. I moved away from an Android to an Apple (despite a decrease in performance and tech) bc Google is so evil in customer exploration. Can anyone recommend a comparable “patriot” device?
Official phone of commie faggots.
According to market share it’s twice as likely to be a Samsung.
Both are gabage
iPhones are great products. They are so great that you can keep your model for 7 years. Just imagine: instead of upgrading every 2 years, upgrade every 7 years with the budget model. Sales will PLUMMET if you just hold onto your current phone as long as possible.
I've had 8 phones in 6 years though and they all ended up with issues. Their laptops used to be great until they moved away from the unibody construction and made it so you couldn't swap out even more of the internals
Not even sure if you can upgrade the ram or replace the batteries in the new stuff without being "apple certified" unless you're tech savvy and don't mind voiding the warranty
Well until they update your phone into being so poor you get too annoyed to stick with it
Here's the kicker: Jailbreak it. I guarantee you, the updates are not "updates" they are downgrades. Keep your phone on the same version and it will never have problems.
Apple phones are awful for privacy anyway - even worse than a typical Android.
I'm pretty sure if you set up an iPhone the right way without signing in its pretty much your best privacy option still.
Unless youre installing some sort of custom android version.
De-googled Android, or a Linux phone are definitely better options. I run my own build of LineageOS with no Gapps.
Linux phones? Do they exist?
Close!
Two options close to market, I think wave 2 is going to be great. First ones definitely for early adopters.
Check out the Pine Phone and Librem 5. I’m comfortable with Linux, will probably pick one of them up just to support the movement.
I didn’t realize this was happening. Will be great to have a more diverse phone market without the oppressive restrictions of Apple or Google.
Those are definitely fair options.
How you liking Lineage? I'm considering the swap myself. That or Graphene. I'm no coder but I'm mega impressed with the world of Linux and I'm constantly reading
What do you use for maps/navigation
OsmAnd+
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/net.osmand.plus/
Open source app. Works great, and you can download maps to your device so you never give away your position.
Oh wow I tried it like 6 years ago and forgot about it.
Will spin up again thanks!
This is true. I read the privacy policies n have written manny for my job. Apple protects data slightly better than Google — n Google is aggressively evil. Like CNN of tech companies.
Please expand on that
All your activity is associated with your apple ID, and they track you continuously via WiFi scanning - there's no way to turn that "feature" off.
Plus, iOS is completely closed source so there's no way to tell whether or not it's doing even worse stuff.
^this. Besides the obvious benefit of open source software normally being free, you can look at what the software is actually doing. As an engineer, I resist black boxes as much as I can. Run Linux!
That's interesting. I have a Samsung S20 plus but always hear iPhone owners talk about how secure and private iPhones are lol
They're clueless. They might have some end to end encryption but Apple always has a backdoor in and a stickynote from a 3 letter agency for made up reasons would get them to and everything over
I'm convinced G Board is a keylogger so I've got no clue how bad iOS is going to be
Uh, I’m skeptical of the assertion that Apple is less secure about privacy than Android. Because with Apple you’re still a customer buying a product. With Google and Android, you are the product.
Sure, there’s privacy concerns as there are with any constantly-connected service that you carry with you everywhere, but this whole “Apple is always bad” bullshit is just bullshit.
They get a bunch of shit for having their stuff made at FoxConn, but like 90% of electronics brands also have their products made there, yet there’s never a peep about them.
Where have I seen this hypocrisy before? It’s a real mystery...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ueaCAdyfwE8
You can set up an iphone without using your apple id, they just make that option difficult to locate.
You mean when they ask you to sign in with an Apple ID you hit the box in the corner that says "Set up without Apple ID." It really doesn't seem that difficult.
I believe the newest version you first have to hit “I don’t have an Apple ID” then on that screen you have to hit “I wish to do this later” or something similar.
Compared to most of the setup options it’s definitely obscure.
Also you can create a burner for your Apple ID and load a gift card for the credit card for in purchases.
Apple makes all their stuff so who knows what back doors are there that we'll never know.
Never owned an apple product.. They've ALWAYS been a shit company.. FUCK them!!!
Satan?
It's a shame. I really liked their macbooks for audio production, but I dislike their globalist politics more
Fantastic for audio, also got me used to command line stuff for Linux given it's a Unix distribution
I've got one of those "PCMasterRace" dork friends who looks amazed that I can throw something in Wine and get it working just fine out of the box while he has to download all those patches that are designed to slow his system down and do little else
No, dont fuck with my stocks! Jk got like a hundred bucks in there. Fuck apple. written from iphone
I'm mentally ready to embrace a live without all this technocrat bullshit. These companies all are to big to fail and need to be broken up, there is no way for anyone to compete.
Even before SocJus, apple was always seen (at least by me and many others) as that of the hipster low T types.
Not sure who's buying it that's not already a cuck.
Professionals. Law business medicine. Not saying that’s good but there are plenty of us who bed smart phones and will for the remainder of our careers. iPhone is lesser tech but slightly better privacy imo
I was on my way to getting a brand new Apple Macbook Pro and iPhone this year.
I think I will get myself a Windows device, parition and Hackintosh it... as for a phone... I have no idea, not a huge fan of Android.
Any suggestions?
My wallet easily boycotts apple. I don't think I've ever owned one and I highly doubt I ever will.
De FAGAT your life. Only use FAGAT systems to troll
The old cruds in the US Congress answer to M FAGAT. The Capital is the Billionaire Corporatist House.
How about Samsung?
Anything not iOS relies on Android though...
XDA Dev forums mentions a ton of flagship killer options for way less. Samsung is garbage
🤔 Cool, thanks for the tip
I'd help but Apple is for sweater vest wearing soy latte drinking people that drive a prius... never owned one.
Another reason to not buy Apple products, Al Gore owns tons of Apple stock from his time on the board of directors.
Those stimulus checks go straight to apple and amazon
Amazon is far more diversified than Apple. Also harder to boycott their cheaper essential product retail business. I don’t like them both but Apple is absolutely a low hanging fruit not to mention it’d be a giant message impossible to ignore if they gone down due to patriots
They’re the most immune. They have huge product diversity and a monopoly on their use. They’re also sitting on a huge pile of cash.
Start with Twitter
No. Low iPhone sales and they’re done basically overnight. Take away iPhone and their stock will go back to $7
Nah, I think they are at like 30 to 40 percent from services now.
Those services will go down to 3% without iPhones
I want to agree with you but they would have an installed userbase lasting 4-6 years so an immediate impact would be difficult.
I think android is more dangerous but less easy to target.
I don't know that Apple didn't end up cooperating with the FBI on the terrorist phone but they at least publicly put up a fight.
Apple requires to meet hardware sales on each quarter. Most of their services depend on those hardware sales. Miss a quarter unexpectedly and it snow balls from there
They can support their stock price with their $200B in cash
Need a new phone and was going to buy something soon but after hearing of gab phone I'll be waiting for it's launch.
I'm pretty sure they quietly make a ton off of services now.
Mostly the app store now I assume.
What about a Mac Mini?
Gates and Google are much more dangerous. Apple can be easily taken over. I would say we buy all the stock and make it our own!
You mean there wasn't an Apple boycott already?
My wife set up a bank account and got a free ipad. I made her give it away for free because I didn't want it in my house.
I don't even allow my sons friends to use my wifi if they have apple crap.
The neighbor across the street named his 2 wifi networks 'Pete's Guest Network" and "Pete's Apple Network" so I named my wifi "Pete's Gay Porn Network".
The trade in shit is cancer. Apple will buy old phones so you get new tech for cheap.
I feel like you have two serious choices for a phone: Android OS or iOS. I recall reading that Android has at least 3 known 'backdoors' for remote access and Apple still has zero. In addition, Apple doesn't send data back to the server unless it tells you it's going to per various people who have done extensive testing. Apple will send data back only if you have the options allowed, such as "help improve maps" and "Help improve siri" and "Send crash data back to app developers." The guy doing the testing was quite extensive, driving around and walking around town with phones in airplane mode with all tracking features disabled and then connecting to a wifi network he controlled and watching what traffic went out. TLDR the iPhone didn't 'phone home' but the Android phone started tryin to get data to the Google servers including trip duration, method of travel (based on accelerometer) and wifi network data collected even while in Airplane.
Meanwhile, iOS sent back no data at all. 0 bytes. Furthermore, Apple claims all over it's website that it's still secure.
They're both known evil companies with bad practices, but Google seems worse. I see Apple as the lesser of two evils style choice. I also recognize that in the long run it doesn't much matter, they're both probably tracking you in various ways.
All I’m saying is don’t buy a new phone. Hold on to your current phone for 3 more years and Apple will be the neck Nokia. The market and whoever else wants to to take over Apple’s depletes mobile business will be very aware as to why this happened. Why? $ize matters. We have to power to destroy 2 trillion worth of commie managed $$. A big message
What’s the alternative? Honestly we have ranks literally filled with professionals. I moved away from an Android to an Apple (despite a decrease in performance and tech) bc Google is so evil in customer exploration. Can anyone recommend a comparable “patriot” device?
Gab phone in the oven
yeah I’m fired up. if it’s even half way decent I’m in
Iphones are for fuckin retards.
There are many more things that we need to curtail. Someone needs to assemble a list of everything we shouldn't be supporting.
I just want my GabPhone and I don't give a fuck, I'll pay an idiotic Apple price for it.