posted ago by glow-operator-2-0 +8 / -0

I've been thinking the last time this was an issue, it had something to do with the Stamp Act of 1765... and taxation without representation.

I imagine it's prison time for tax evasion though.

Thoughts?

I've been thinking the last time this was an issue, it had something to do with the Stamp Act of 1765... and taxation without representation. I imagine it's prison time for tax evasion though. Thoughts?
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Coldbyte 3 points ago +3 / -0

The key for taxes is learning how to use/abuse the tax system like rich people. Not all of it’s possible but some of it is.

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Serioussurfaholic 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yep. To some extent at least. At least two legal ways.

First off, adjust your exemptions so you only pay what you owe. So if you can claim three for instance, claim them.

Hit the IRS tax calculator every quarter and as soon as it shows you have paid your full obligation adjust your w2 again to exempt. That way, barring any tax credits you get you should end up with zero refund, a small refund or owing a small amount.

If you owe, pay by check or money order and paper file April fools day.

Or do what hubby and I did. Figure out the max you can earn without paying and earn less. So, say you and your spouse can earn 50k a year before you hit taxable income. Find a place where you can live comfortably on 48k, move there, live in that. You are still paying social security and any state and local taxes, but not feds. And if you choose a state like SD with no state taxes, even better.

We are in that category now, and thanks to where we moved we are very comfy. And funnily enough, we are close enough to the so called poverty level we qualify for discount utilities and other stuff if we want to take advantage lol. Screw that.

When hubby retires in a few months we will be getting his social security, and at this point I have no issue working off the books if we want more. Then the feds won't get jack shit from us.

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glow-operator-2-0 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

adjust your w2 again

Jesus Cripes, I just want to rob the government, not talk to Carol in payroll.

LOL

Maybe I need to find a way to do all this electronically.

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TaxTruth 2 points ago +2 / -0

Three important facts about the federal income tax government has kept hidden from the American People for more than a century:

  1. The federal income tax is an EXCISE.
  2. EXCISE taxes are taxes on the gainful exercise of federal privilege(s).
  3. Most workers do NOT earn their pay exercising any federal privilege(s).

"The income tax is, therefore, not a tax on income as such. It is an excise tax with respect to certain activities and privileges which is measured by reference to the income which they produce. The income is not the subject of the tax. It is the basis for determining the amount of tax." F. Morse Hubbard, Treasury Department legislative draftsman. House Congressional Record March 27th 1943, page 2580


Working for a living is NOT an excise taxable activity! The reason most Americans pay federal income taxes is simple. They are tricked into doing so.

Upon employment, your payer has you complete a Form W-4; a Withholding Agreement. They believe they have a legal obligation to do so under 26 U.S. Code §3402(a)(1)

Unknown to the worker and the payer, this paragraph does not apply to private sector workers. It only applies to an “employee” (as defined by law, not the dictionary) who is paid “wages” (as defined by law, not the dictionary), paid by an “employer” (as defined by law, not the dictionary).

26 U.S. Code §3402(a)(1) is a mandatory requirement. It applies ONLY to that which is enumerated! Thus, by law, 26 U.S. Code §3402(a)(1) does not and can not apply to a private sector worker.

Congress wants your money, but it can’t legally take it because the U.S. Constitution prohibits it. To legally work around the limits imposed by the Constitution, Congress created 26 U.S. Code §3402(p); the VOLUNTARY WITHHOLDING AGREEMENT. And more specifically, 26 U.S. Code §3402(p)(3); the “AUTHORITY FOR OTHER VOLUNTARY WITHHOLDING”.

Removing all of the superfluous wording from paragraph (p)(3)(B), the hideous truth is revealed:

“The Secretary is authorized to provide for withholding from any other type of payment if the person making and the person receiving such other type of payment agree to such withholding. For purposes of this chapter, other payments with respect to which such agreement is made shall be treated AS IF they were wages paid by an employer to an employee.”

By signing a W-4 you (the person) agreed to have your payer (the other person) treat your pay (the other type of payment) “AS IF” they were “wages” (as defined by law) paid by an “employer” (as defined by law) to an “employee” (as defined by law).

In other words. By signing a W-4 you volunteered to have your non-taxable private sector payments treated as federally connected “wage” payments paid to a government “employee” by a government “employer”, subject to the excise tax laws of the United States.

You are now in the system as a “taxpayer”. Once receipt of “wages” payments are reported to the IRS, you are legally obligated to pay income taxes.

Welcome to the Matrix!

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glow-operator-2-0 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm starting to think there's a reason for that sovereign movement (minus the outright violence).

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TaxTruth 1 point ago +1 / -0

"Persons dealing with the government are charged with knowing government statutes and regulations, and they assume the risk that government agents may exceed their authority and provide misinformation." Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, Lavin v. Marsh, 644 f.2d 1378 (1981)

When it comes to taxes, the federal government has taken full advantage of the peoples lack of knowledge regarding revenue law. This has allowed the IRS to legally misapply the federal income tax with impunity.

If you want to learn what you can legally do about it… the journey starts with understanding how we got to this point:

https://redice.tv/radio-3fourteen/cracking-the-code-the-truth-about-taxation-in-america

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QSWO1 1 point ago +1 / -0

Think outside the box.

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glow-operator-2-0 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Cash stuff = RICO and dangerous if you get robbed.

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cmaurras 2 points ago +2 / -0

You're thinking outside of the wrong box.

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QSWO1 1 point ago +1 / -0

Having nothing is true freedom.

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Ineedsanity 1 point ago +1 / -0

No, they spend money faster than they collect it.

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Averon 1 point ago +2 / -1

I mean, they may even come to assassinate you if they say you owe taxes and don't pay them.

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QSWO1 2 points ago +2 / -0

Cartel bullshit.