Where do you think those traditions came from? Without God, sins are a matter of opinion. If there's no standard, what makes something right or wrong? It's just made up rules at that point. I'm not linking atheism to crime and perversion, I'm just saying its best to have a foundation to build from.
Objective truth makes things right and wrong. For example we all know killing someone is terrible, because we cherish our own lives and the lives of our family and we are devastated when someone passes. That does not require God or religion. We know that adultery is wrong because we cherish our relationships and we are devastated when we are betrayed. That does not require God or religion. There are plenty of objective realities to set societal moral standards that do not require religion.
I am a highly principled non-religious person. I find myself in agreement with nearly all Christian ethics, but I don’t believe in God or the stories in the Bible. I have no issue with peaceful religious people but I think that conservatives lose a lot of people when they base their arguments in religion. The same arguments can be made logically and legitimately without religion and we can reach the same goal.
I see you and HE111 both talk about your own views, instead of addressing the problem with atheism as a movement or a church.
The way I see it, the church doctrines of various Christian churches, and especially the Roman Catholic Church, function like a "constitution" of Western culture. If you take that away, all you are left with is anarchy. And that's the fruit of secularism. That's what you can see take place in society. Atheism is key to that.
I think you do need a God. Otherwise you have no leg to stand on. You can't draw authoritative arguments from any source. You just say that murder is wrong, "because we cherish our own lives and the lives of our family and we are devastated when someone passes". That's just your opinion. Someone else might have a different opinion.
Where do you think those traditions came from? Without God, sins are a matter of opinion. If there's no standard, what makes something right or wrong? It's just made up rules at that point. I'm not linking atheism to crime and perversion, I'm just saying its best to have a foundation to build from.
Objective truth makes things right and wrong. For example we all know killing someone is terrible, because we cherish our own lives and the lives of our family and we are devastated when someone passes. That does not require God or religion. We know that adultery is wrong because we cherish our relationships and we are devastated when we are betrayed. That does not require God or religion. There are plenty of objective realities to set societal moral standards that do not require religion.
I am a highly principled non-religious person. I find myself in agreement with nearly all Christian ethics, but I don’t believe in God or the stories in the Bible. I have no issue with peaceful religious people but I think that conservatives lose a lot of people when they base their arguments in religion. The same arguments can be made logically and legitimately without religion and we can reach the same goal.
I see you and HE111 both talk about your own views, instead of addressing the problem with atheism as a movement or a church.
The way I see it, the church doctrines of various Christian churches, and especially the Roman Catholic Church, function like a "constitution" of Western culture. If you take that away, all you are left with is anarchy. And that's the fruit of secularism. That's what you can see take place in society. Atheism is key to that.
I think you do need a God. Otherwise you have no leg to stand on. You can't draw authoritative arguments from any source. You just say that murder is wrong, "because we cherish our own lives and the lives of our family and we are devastated when someone passes". That's just your opinion. Someone else might have a different opinion.
It's anarchy.
You practice your own religion without a name. You bound yourself to a set of rules. That's what religion IS.