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They charge is that it was done for corrupt purposes... If that happened, it is a problem because even conspiring with another to commit a corrupt act is a crime.
lol So are they mind reading here, or is this the new "collusion"?
Because wtf even are "corrupt purposes," in a political sense? Like, doing something to increase your own power? lol Okay, so I guess Nancy has a few things to explain then. Like getting someone to do what you want in the executive branch using political pressure regardless of regulations? Ooof, those anti-ICE people are going to have a rough time I guess.
This is mind reading nonsense, and unless everyone really wants to actually have this conversation about motives, and not just about Trump who isn't even a politician now but actual sitting politicians with power (like ones that fucked Chinese spies, for example), then I suggest they back down.
And regarding the second point, the "corrupt act" has to be a crime in order for the conspiracy to be a crime. Otherwise, we have to shut down every NGO in the entire world right now--they're all conspiring to commit all sorts of corrupt acts. That's the thing: the "conspiracy to commit corruption" only comes into play when the "corruption" is in a legal sense. For instance, bribery or trying to sell a legislative seat.
So, I ask for the 50th time this type of charge has been made since Trump was inaugurated, what fucking law was broken here? Remember, our laws are coded and written down: just saying "hurpa durpa he corrupt" isn't a thing...
Or didn't used to be, at least. And honestly, I highly recommend politicians keep it that way.
The AOCs of the next generation are watching, and I'm not sure they'll remember that these rule changes were only to be used on the evil drumpf and not on Pelosi when they decide it's time.
“But he’s actually racist”
“But we know what he really meant”
They project their own falsehoods and apply inaccurate context to actual words or actions to everything.
That is where all of their power derives. If you oppose you are racist, tarred, feathered, and need to personally defend yourself which is an impossible feat with people who’s brains are short circuited and living in upside down world.
An AG who will do what the boss, President, wants isn't a corrupt purpose. It's not corrupt for a President to put in place people who will do what the President wants.
Obama's AG did what Obama wanted, and Obama placed those AG's in the office because they would do what he wanted.
Biden is placing people in positions because they will do what he wants.
A President can direct the AG to investigate something of interest. A President can fire an AG who doesn't investigate what he's asked to. It happens all the time. Trump isn't the first President who fired or wanted to fire AG's.
The issue is Trump wanted an investigation into something the leftists didn't want to investigate. That's your real point.
"You don't get how this works. Only leftists can tell an AG what to investigate."
When the riots in Ferguson happened, President Obama directed the AG to investigate Wilson shooting Brown. Those aren't my words. Those were Obama's words.
The current President bragged that he withheld funds from Ukraine until they fired a prosecutor who was investigating Biden's son and his company.
I really think they are going to try to put him in jail.
He has a massive following. Incredible influence. In the tens of millions. Even as a former President he can burn the system down with a viable 3rd party.
There is too much money at stake for them to allow this. They want him silenced.
Nah. I think he's a weak-handed true believer. He wants communist utopia, but he knows institutional power is too strong to let a populist ever reform it. Which is why unlike Trump, who fought hard and never sold out, Bernie sold out and moved on. He's nearing the end of his life and probably just wants to go out quietly.
Bernie Sanders is the rebellious teenager who dies his hair blue and talks about the evils of capitalism and big corporations - and maybe even believes his own bullshit - and then comes back home to ask his parents for $1000 for a brand new iphone.
Except he's like 80 or some shit.
If he had a shred of integrity within him it died around mid 2016 when he betrayed his supporters, went back on his promise to take his campaign to the Democratic convention and endorsed Hillary (after raising money for that supposed effort - "no refunds"). Ever since then he's acted basically the same as any other establishment Democrat, the same talking points about the bad orange man. The only difference is he also asks for more big government programs at a slightly faster rate than the other Democrats.
Some believe he may have been blackmailed over his wife's bank fraud when she bankrupted some small college in vermont by claiming she had received donation pledges that didn't exist.
Bernie has been a grifter since day 1. Before GEOTUS, he always knew that the DNC would never allow a known Socialist on the ballot for President. Now that elections don't matter, it doesn't make any difference who they run.
How many votes do they need to impeach? If it’s only 51, it won’t matter what Mitch or any other Republican senator says. I also think Sloppy Steve should stop saying on his show that all the receipts will come out in a trial, proving Trump’s innocence, as if this will be anything other than a show trial. I don’t even have faith in the Supreme Court shutting the whole thing down because they clearly have no constitutional right to impeach a private citizen.
Obviously you don't watch. He never said HE was going to provide receipts. He said you had to have them to prove something such as election fraud. Too many receipts turned in for that one to count.
Bannon jumped on nearly every claim of fraud regardless of how verifiable it was. He was not able to show receipts for probably more than half of what he was pushing.
I'm not saying AT ALL that there was no evidence of fraud. There was tons.
Bannon wasn't as bad as Lin Wood, but he certainly wasn't a whole lot better. He elevated a good number of people that didn't deliver.
What the fuck kind of weird shilling is this? I've been seeing a lot of you lately making this weird fake point.
There was a FUCK TON of direct evidence. Corrupt uniparty judges, media, and politicians pretending it's not real doesn't change that.
The biggest lesson from 2020 is that you can have DIRECT FUCKING EVIDENCE and they will still ignore it. There was always a sort of assumption that they were biased, but if the evidence was strong enough, then they would be forced to act correctly because of optics.
Read my post history before calling me a shill. That's kind of a pretty absurd claim to level against me.
I agree there are mountains of evidence of fraud. I am more referencing all of the folks Bannon gave a platform to and assured us that they had receipts. Many of them did not.
That isn't to say that none of them did, or that there wasn't evidence. Bannon is no Raheem Kassam, I will just put it that way.
Nope. He needs a 2/3rds conviction for that. Besides, at this point the impeachment isn't even constitutional. They're holding a trial for a private citizen regarding an office he doesn't have.
I honestly don't see this government lasting a whole lot longer in its current form. People already had a VERY low opinion of fedgov in general across the board, and now >50% questions the very legitimacy of the government.
I can see them pulling increasingly desperate bullshit till it all falls apart.
The entire process is corrupt. Both political parties are corrupt. What the fuck good is term limits when the corrupt political parties replace with new corrupt politicians? It's totally pointless
Contact your senate representatives. Let your voice be heard. If the Republicans want to impeach Trump then their party is as good as dead. Anyone who votes for it should be primaried, and if the impeachment succeeds vote against all republicans just on principal.
Mitch is making sure the GOP commits political suicide by going after trump. He is delusional if he thinks 75+ million Trump supporters will forget this come 2022. But just maybe...just maybe, he realizes that having the senate waste weeks if not months trying to impeach Trump is actually making the corrupt and illegal Biden administration look weak, vindictive and unorganized as nothing gets accomplished. Ah, what am I thinking of? McConnell isn't that bright.
I think Mitch bought influences with donations from his wife..the CCP extension hands.. I mean what makes other senators always picking him as a leader?
Sadly, you did. By either voting for him directly or by voting for senators from your state who support him. It’s not like he staged a coup. And then you and all of us kept him there. Lucky for us we can vote him out.
After the last election the smart ones realize they just need a few friends in the voting machine companies or reliable counters in the city, not actual votes.
IMO we need to do a big push at the local/state level to get the voting systems straightened out so a few well placed individuals can't throw an election.
Push for a "Convention of States" (CoS). We don't need congress to amend the constitution. The States can change the constitution without congress and impose term limits, balanced budgets, changes in foreign aid. We The People are in charge. Government needs to be afraid of us, not us afraid of them.
Now they've come up with a new charge - Trump "plotted" to replace the acting AG.
Um, it's not illegal for a President to replace an AG.
It’s doesn’t matter if he wanted Barr gone.
The left is trying to turn it into a scandal.
Where is the Durham investigation?
In the shredder?
Wait, it was printed?
Metaphorically
I bet Pelosi would have ripped up her copy.
In the shitter, then
I don’t believe there ever was one. I swear, it’s fake. A fairy tale. Perhaps even a Q post
lol So are they mind reading here, or is this the new "collusion"?
Because wtf even are "corrupt purposes," in a political sense? Like, doing something to increase your own power? lol Okay, so I guess Nancy has a few things to explain then. Like getting someone to do what you want in the executive branch using political pressure regardless of regulations? Ooof, those anti-ICE people are going to have a rough time I guess.
This is mind reading nonsense, and unless everyone really wants to actually have this conversation about motives, and not just about Trump who isn't even a politician now but actual sitting politicians with power (like ones that fucked Chinese spies, for example), then I suggest they back down.
And regarding the second point, the "corrupt act" has to be a crime in order for the conspiracy to be a crime. Otherwise, we have to shut down every NGO in the entire world right now--they're all conspiring to commit all sorts of corrupt acts. That's the thing: the "conspiracy to commit corruption" only comes into play when the "corruption" is in a legal sense. For instance, bribery or trying to sell a legislative seat.
So, I ask for the 50th time this type of charge has been made since Trump was inaugurated, what fucking law was broken here? Remember, our laws are coded and written down: just saying "hurpa durpa he corrupt" isn't a thing...
Or didn't used to be, at least. And honestly, I highly recommend politicians keep it that way.
The AOCs of the next generation are watching, and I'm not sure they'll remember that these rule changes were only to be used on the evil drumpf and not on Pelosi when they decide it's time.
They thrive off of mind reading nonsense.
“But he’s actually racist” “But we know what he really meant”
They project their own falsehoods and apply inaccurate context to actual words or actions to everything.
That is where all of their power derives. If you oppose you are racist, tarred, feathered, and need to personally defend yourself which is an impossible feat with people who’s brains are short circuited and living in upside down world.
Soooo, most people stay silent.
An AG who will do what the boss, President, wants isn't a corrupt purpose. It's not corrupt for a President to put in place people who will do what the President wants.
Obama's AG did what Obama wanted, and Obama placed those AG's in the office because they would do what he wanted.
Biden is placing people in positions because they will do what he wants.
Nobody said he was.
Who appoints the AG? Will Biden appoint an AG?
A President can direct the AG to investigate something of interest. A President can fire an AG who doesn't investigate what he's asked to. It happens all the time. Trump isn't the first President who fired or wanted to fire AG's.
The issue is Trump wanted an investigation into something the leftists didn't want to investigate. That's your real point.
"You don't get how this works. Only leftists can tell an AG what to investigate."
When the riots in Ferguson happened, President Obama directed the AG to investigate Wilson shooting Brown. Those aren't my words. Those were Obama's words.
The current President bragged that he withheld funds from Ukraine until they fired a prosecutor who was investigating Biden's son and his company.
Go post at Biden.lost.
Most Presidents, at some time, give input to the AG as to who to investigate. They also fire AG's who consistently don't investigate.
You're arguing that it was somehow illegal for Trump to have asked an AG to investigate a crime.
Ridiculous.
When were the charges changed? I'm confused by the time line?
I really think they are going to try to put him in jail.
He has a massive following. Incredible influence. In the tens of millions. Even as a former President he can burn the system down with a viable 3rd party.
There is too much money at stake for them to allow this. They want him silenced.
Look at the treatment of: Ron Paul, Bernie Sanders, Donald Trump.
The uniparty will not allow outsiders.
Bernie Sanders isn’t an outsider.
I would contend that Bernie was an outsider the first time around, but then he played ball and endorsed Hillary.
Nah, Bernie was always there to play his role and get freshly indoctrinated college commies to vote for party.
Nah. I think he's a weak-handed true believer. He wants communist utopia, but he knows institutional power is too strong to let a populist ever reform it. Which is why unlike Trump, who fought hard and never sold out, Bernie sold out and moved on. He's nearing the end of his life and probably just wants to go out quietly.
Ron Paul and Trump endorsed Romney also.
Yeah, well, I would have endorsed a flaming bag of feces over Obama too.
Accurate statement is accurate.
Bernie Sanders is the rebellious teenager who dies his hair blue and talks about the evils of capitalism and big corporations - and maybe even believes his own bullshit - and then comes back home to ask his parents for $1000 for a brand new iphone.
Except he's like 80 or some shit.
If he had a shred of integrity within him it died around mid 2016 when he betrayed his supporters, went back on his promise to take his campaign to the Democratic convention and endorsed Hillary (after raising money for that supposed effort - "no refunds"). Ever since then he's acted basically the same as any other establishment Democrat, the same talking points about the bad orange man. The only difference is he also asks for more big government programs at a slightly faster rate than the other Democrats.
Some believe he may have been blackmailed over his wife's bank fraud when she bankrupted some small college in vermont by claiming she had received donation pledges that didn't exist.
He’s always been a grifter.
Bernie has been a grifter since day 1. Before GEOTUS, he always knew that the DNC would never allow a known Socialist on the ballot for President. Now that elections don't matter, it doesn't make any difference who they run.
Insert joke about doing something horrid to gain inner access.
The fact that -0 doesn’t exist makes this unintentionally better
Apparently dividing by zero results in infinite faggotry.
Mitt Romney divided by zero.
Unless it's an IEEE754 float.
How many votes do they need to impeach? If it’s only 51, it won’t matter what Mitch or any other Republican senator says. I also think Sloppy Steve should stop saying on his show that all the receipts will come out in a trial, proving Trump’s innocence, as if this will be anything other than a show trial. I don’t even have faith in the Supreme Court shutting the whole thing down because they clearly have no constitutional right to impeach a private citizen.
67 votes are needed in the senate.
Pretty sure they need 2/3rds majority
Obviously you don't watch. He never said HE was going to provide receipts. He said you had to have them to prove something such as election fraud. Too many receipts turned in for that one to count.
Bannon jumped on nearly every claim of fraud regardless of how verifiable it was. He was not able to show receipts for probably more than half of what he was pushing.
I'm not saying AT ALL that there was no evidence of fraud. There was tons.
Bannon wasn't as bad as Lin Wood, but he certainly wasn't a whole lot better. He elevated a good number of people that didn't deliver.
What the fuck kind of weird shilling is this? I've been seeing a lot of you lately making this weird fake point.
There was a FUCK TON of direct evidence. Corrupt uniparty judges, media, and politicians pretending it's not real doesn't change that.
The biggest lesson from 2020 is that you can have DIRECT FUCKING EVIDENCE and they will still ignore it. There was always a sort of assumption that they were biased, but if the evidence was strong enough, then they would be forced to act correctly because of optics.
Turns out that's not the case.
Read my post history before calling me a shill. That's kind of a pretty absurd claim to level against me.
I agree there are mountains of evidence of fraud. I am more referencing all of the folks Bannon gave a platform to and assured us that they had receipts. Many of them did not.
That isn't to say that none of them did, or that there wasn't evidence. Bannon is no Raheem Kassam, I will just put it that way.
I think 51 makes it so he loses his chance of running again though. As well as secret service and other perks.
Nope. He needs a 2/3rds conviction for that. Besides, at this point the impeachment isn't even constitutional. They're holding a trial for a private citizen regarding an office he doesn't have.
The constitution doesn’t matter.
SS gone, really? If thats true it makes a whole lot more sense...
True. But they have to impeach first.
Well duh. Which should be unconstitutional because he’s not even a sitting president.
Constitution didn’t stop Commiecrats before.
It will also never happen if they vote to impeach Trump.
Who we vote for doesn't actually matter anymore. They'll just install whomever they see fit.
I disagree. They still have to make it look good.
Well they already screwed that up....
The Bidoof regime is proof they don't.
It cost them, though. They were clearly willing to pay any price. Remember that this was impossible without Republican support as well.
I honestly don't see this government lasting a whole lot longer in its current form. People already had a VERY low opinion of fedgov in general across the board, and now >50% questions the very legitimacy of the government.
I can see them pulling increasingly desperate bullshit till it all falls apart.
Once people really start suffering, it's going to get ugly. The first to snap will be the people that have believed the lies.
The answer to the question is longevity. We need term limits.
The entire process is corrupt. Both political parties are corrupt. What the fuck good is term limits when the corrupt political parties replace with new corrupt politicians? It's totally pointless
you dont have time to organize the corrupt cartel when youre only in office for 6-12 years instead of 50
You don’t get into office unless you are part of the cartel....
The people are supposed to recall these with fuckers with their votes but we barely have that in some places.
short terms mean shallow roots in the swamp so it is less likely they would be given large chunks of cash for long term projects.
Would convicting him in the Senate disqualify him from ever running again? That's the only reason I could see why they're even still talking about it
The Senate can specify as part of the impeachment that the candidate is disqualified from running for office in the future.
Thé problem is them impeaching him kills any chance of them ever running for President either.
Contact your senate representatives. Let your voice be heard. If the Republicans want to impeach Trump then their party is as good as dead. Anyone who votes for it should be primaried, and if the impeachment succeeds vote against all republicans just on principal.
The party majority leader is voted on by the party. Write your senate representatives. Unfortunately for me, that is Mitch himself.
Have the state legislature just recall him? Who cares if it isn't legally defined or unprecedented. Just do it. Take away his pension too.
China. Mitch loves to suck little asian ladyboys cocks.
So, when can we take Mitch out of office?
RHINO?
Answer: China
PUT THIS ON A BILLBOARD! Sticky this! Who are these people? The same leftovers run the country year after year!! Btw where is Ben Carson?
Mitch is making sure the GOP commits political suicide by going after trump. He is delusional if he thinks 75+ million Trump supporters will forget this come 2022. But just maybe...just maybe, he realizes that having the senate waste weeks if not months trying to impeach Trump is actually making the corrupt and illegal Biden administration look weak, vindictive and unorganized as nothing gets accomplished. Ah, what am I thinking of? McConnell isn't that bright.
Wouldn't they have to impeach Kamala also? Any FBI agents out there? She did support Burn Loot murder all year. What does the FBI think?
Congress as a whole has had like an 8-15% approval for almost 20 years now.
The party made him in charge of the party.
The DNC put Mitch in charge of the RNC, which is just the DNC with a different mascot.
Obviously the people who matter to the Republican leadership are not the voters but the last couple months have proved that anyway.
The uniparty man. Trump was an outsider who came in to do good. The uniparty hates good. Pariot party step on up!
They are in the global class that is completely out of touch with reality of everyone else.
The lack of term limits put Mitch in charge.
Dominion.
The impeachment trial is a moot point, since Chief Justice Robert's will not attend trial. In other words, political posturing for nothing.
The power of a fabricated scandal
Mitch has the checkbook and money talks.
It's the money, honey
uniparty people always end up house or senate majority minority leaders.
A.L.E.C. is group driving the GOP.
I think Mitch bought influences with donations from his wife..the CCP extension hands.. I mean what makes other senators always picking him as a leader?
They don't want their cocaine supply to be cut off.
Swamp vs no swamp, forget political parties, welcome to 2021.
They're as clueless as the fake pollsters, RINOS, DNC, Lefties.
We don't answer polls.
The GOP put Mitch in charge
Mitch needs to rig elections to stay in power. Or he wont be running again anyways right?
Mitch the Bitch is, like Pedo Joe, controlled by the CCP. That is why he is leading the charge against the real POTUS of the US.
Mitch and the GOP want to flatten that curve and drive MAGA out of the party the same way they die te TEA Party. Its not rocket science
I Agree. Can’t let that happen
Uniparty showing it’s true form.
For the love of god, Kentucky, just bite the bullet and elect a democrat. Mitch is a cancer.
Sadly, you did. By either voting for him directly or by voting for senators from your state who support him. It’s not like he staged a coup. And then you and all of us kept him there. Lucky for us we can vote him out.
Wait what'd I miss?
Apathy & corruption, that's who.
anon I...
Why don’t they care ? What can we do to change that
After the last election the smart ones realize they just need a few friends in the voting machine companies or reliable counters in the city, not actual votes.
IMO we need to do a big push at the local/state level to get the voting systems straightened out so a few well placed individuals can't throw an election.
Exactly. Where we need to focus
Push for a "Convention of States" (CoS). We don't need congress to amend the constitution. The States can change the constitution without congress and impose term limits, balanced budgets, changes in foreign aid. We The People are in charge. Government needs to be afraid of us, not us afraid of them.
Mitch and his chinese wife are in bed with the CCP and have been for a very long time.
"Who made Mitch in Charge of the Party ?"
Mitt Romney's niece.
There is no 'party', wake up.