The progressive left didn’t start a new party, they simply took over the DNC by purging the moderates from the party and forcing Democrat leaders to move radically left. IMO MAGA needs to the same with the GOP Club by working hard and voting for only MAGA candidates at all levels of government to take out RINOs during the primary process. Then stay home in the general election for any RINOs on the ballot. If 50 million MAGA GOP stay home for RINOs as a voting-block in the general elections of 2022 and 2024 they’ll be extinct in OUR party - just like moderates are extinct in the DNC.
Updated1/26/21: The less extreme version of this is vote GOP to hold the house and the DEMS. Identify the 4-5 biggest 2022 RINOs in the senate and purge them from office by either staying home or voting DEM in the general. MAGA voters complain GOP RINOs don’t wield their power against liberalism. 75M MAGA voters have to be willing to show RINOs what wielding power looks like 2022.
Oh looks its Mitch.
My feeling exactly... that Benedict Arnold energy is so low tier... fuck the GOP to hell with them. Patriot Party all the way... make them pay for their treachery by yeeting them politically.
Do you realize how high the bar is set, state-by-state, for a third party to enter the scene? This is the most practical approach if we want to start winning again before 2032.
Worked out well for the tea party. We’ll get them this time though...
The Tea Party was just a Larp... after Nov 2020 the need for a Patriot Party became an imperative. America cannot survive another half century of uniparty rule
The tea party was an amazing movement.
Just lost to Mitch like the patriot party will if it doesn’t become it’s own party. Look what the did to Palin etc.
I'm dumping on the TP per se but that was another time... the Marxist left was just a democrat fever dream back then. Now its full on Gulag time for any of us who won't bend the knee. So fuck that for a game of tiddlywinks!
I HATE MITCH AND HIS CLUB and want it destroyed. If I were Mitch I’d be advocating you go start a third-party and never win again while the GOP Club remains in power. I won’t be as powerful but I’ll still be more powerful than a mere Patriot.
This is bigger than the tea party. If trump wants to turn himself and son into a political machine he is very well poised to do so. The party knows it. The republic party can be destroyed.
We need a multi-strategy approach:
Every RINO seat in the house is available now! MAGA votes again in the primaries in 20+/-months. During that time we can either find, campaign and vote for GOP MAGA candidates or waste our resources starting a Patriot party.
A third of the Senate RINO seats are open too.
The KEY to our success is staying home in the general for RINOs. The big GOP lie is conservatives have to vote for RINOs in the general or else the liberals will destroy America. Guess what, we voted for RINOs and the libs destroyed America!
So now as payback for the lie, MAGA destroys the Club in 2022 and 2024.
Winning the Primary against some EGOP lacky is actually very easy in DEEP RED DISTRICTS... the issues are key.. the money is not so important.
And I might suggest that the MAGA wing of the GOP begin to organize that fight immediately... And PICK THE DISTRICTS CAREFULLY... because the ONE THING THE EGOP HAS IS UNLIMITED CASH TO SPEND AGAINST ANY MAGA UP AND COMER!
But in deep red districts the issues are KEY - that is why Liz Cheney is about to have her hat handed to her - yet she can spend $100 Million if she had too - but it is not going to save her.
ALSO - let's not put up "7 candidates" in the Primary either to DILUTE THE VOTE... Mitch McConnell WILL GO TO WAR WAR AGAINST US in the Primary to keep his Fav Senators seated.
Video: This is how the Justice Democrats beat the Establishment DNC in DEEP BLUE DISTRICTS = https://www.bitchute.com/search/?query=the%20brains%20behind%20aoc%20&kind=video
We can do the same!
And win without BIG DOLLAR BUDGETS.
Blaming the referees isn’t a winning strategy!
There is no winning strategy that involves playing by the rules.
Rules that were made to help them and hurt anyone else.
I will follow whatever PDJT proposes.
I agree. Reforming the GOP has already created a better class of new candidates. This needs far more energy and involvement. If we can reform the GOP while Democrats remain mired in corruption, a pawn of China and Big Business, it will expand the tent and help take the House.
Without election reform, there will be no chance for any change. The best path to bring integrity back is reforming the GOP at the state level. The push needs to start now in every swing state to make the GOP majority legislatures act. Then 2022 nationally.
PS The radical left has the power it does because it took over a party not start a new one.
Exactly...
and here is how they did it - fighting in DEEP BLUE DISTRICTS - where the DNC did not care to watch Primaries... and no other establishment Dem candidates would rise to take on the sitting Dem... and were the MONEY is not a big deal - only ISSUES are the concern.... plus only the Deep Blue Dems even bother to vote in the Primary... EXACTLY WHO THE "JUSTICE DEMOCRATS" NEED TO SHOW UP TO VOTE.
Lastly - the General Election is won easily and require no real money or effort -
All explained in very good detail here using AOC as the example.
https://www.bitchute.com/search/?query=the%20brains%20behind%20aoc%20&kind=video
No, the radical left has the power they do because Communists set this up several decades ago. It took them generations to infiltrate and get to this point.
Exactly and they did it with no clear leader. If Trump leads MAGA to destroy the RINOS, that will be much more successful than starting a new party. Half of Americans don't even vote, and of the republicans who do, a huge chunk just show up and vote "R" because generations before them did. Not all Republicans are as involved/aware as MAGA. Third parties are historically loosers...if I were an undercover democrat operative, I'd be pushing MAGA hard for a third party. Frankly I'm suspect of conservatives pushing 3rd party when the full GOP is within our grasp.
RINOs push 3rd party to keep the GOP club intact DEMS push 3rd party for obvious reason OTHERS push 3rd party because they’re frustrated GRIFTERS push 3rd to make money and get power NARCISSIST push 3rd party because of their ego ANARCHIST push 3rd party because.....
MAGA just wants their country back.
Na, GOP needs to be bitch slapped.
100% agree and advocating that too. It’s just how that we disagree on. Destroying the GOP is destroying the ability for conservatives to ever be in power again. Destroying the GOP RINO CLUB by taking back OUR conservative GOP party preserves MAGAs ability to win elections again. 3rd party destroys both IMO.
Even if you’re 100% right, the end result of such effort will produce 10% positive results while destroying the RINO CLUB within the GOP would be far more successful politically.
The GOP won’t get a penny from my family ever again!
Or mine but MAGA GOP candidates will get my vote.
A patriot needs to run against these Rhinos first of all. And infiltrating the party first, okay. It may take some time for nother party to work out. The independents and the normies in the Dem party may switch to a new party after they see everything clear as day. If you add that to the Rep who are about patriotism could rise pretty quick.
i come from generations of a Republican voting Family... Fuck the Republica faggots they Cheated Trump like the Democrats and they will just keep stabbing Patriots in the Back ...I've already Changed my affiliation Republican to Independent Screw the GOP Its Over your not gonna Vote Rinos out they'll just keep fing Anyone that's Conservative like Ted Cruz for their NWO. Globalist ideology let them have the Republican Party ..their has never been a movement 74 million we all got the shaft from politicians that hate you and me Gop And Democrats Trump came in and Exposed them All Trump is Still my President and the leader of the Patriot Party.
You should switch parties because you sound like a victim. If Trump is anything he’s a fighter! He’s also - like all presidents - a narcissist. If the fighter in him comes out he will stay in the GOP and completely destroy the RINO Club from within. On the other hand if the narcissist comes out he’ll lead a 3rd Trump party and destroy the GOP and in the process cement the radical lefts control of our country. I hope he is wise enough to choose the former. PS my family believed the GOP lie too - but that’s my fault for being duped.
You Are Right i sound as if I'm not fighting but I am..I've been Republican all my Life. I Saw What Rinos were doing to The Republican party before Trump ever became President. it is heartbreaking I think Gerald Ford was the First Rino that came to light but Nixon Chosed him Same with Reagan, Reagan and Bush had a dislike for each other but Reagan picked him. Funny Thing is Establishment Bush picked a Real Conservative Dan Quayle And W Bush Was Dick Cheney the Rino Mascots they All have betrayed The Republican Party and Trump was the Last Straw..with the Voter Fraud I did change my Affiliation to Independent but if Republicans reform under a Honest Election and Kickout Rinos in 2022 with Trump America First Pariots then I will have hope and continue and fight with them.
There are multiple advantages to taking over the RNC.
On the other hand, any new third party will be destroyed by negative press coverage and state action, along with attacks from RNC and DNC.
If all donor money in the RNC is filtered through its MAGA wing, it'll combine Trump's leadership with the necessary funds for campaigning. Then the RNC becomes MAGA.
Any third party that gains traction will be easily destroyed by the enemy.
You're a fucking retard.
Leave the thinking for those with sense.
We’re all retarded for believing GOP RINO’s were here to help. Only one of us is retarded when it comes to killing the RINOs. The 3rd party retards think splitting the MAGA is the solution.
Welcome to the GOP MAGA CLUB!
New Contract For America!
The GOP RINOs have broken every contract they’ve made with conservatives so I’m thinking MEGA VOTERS draft the contract with the GOP in 2022. We have to clean house.
This is correct.
2 main points:
Watch names and details here:
"The Brains Behind AOC Part II." https://www.bitchute.com/search/?query=the%20brains%20behind%20aoc%20part%20ii&kind=video People like Zach Exely.
Justice Democrats are a MASSIVE PARTY INSIDE THE DNC.... and they are in a full ciivil war with PELOSI and SCHUMER and the Old Guard Dem Leaders. The Establishment DNC is growing old... they will be gone in just a few years. The Justice Democrats are all kids... most under 40. The LEFT IS SWINGING FARTHER AND FARTHER TO THE LEFT.
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I can not think of a single story the MSM did-not-falsify, over the last 5 years regarding Trump or the US.
The RIGHT IS NOT LOSING because our ideas are bad or that we are underfunded or that we have to many other problems...
The RIGHT IS LOSING (Fraud aside for now) because the MSM IS COLLUDING AND LYING IN THEIR REPORTING - and they control 90% of all daily consumed Political MEDIA in the US.
ABC NIGHTLY NEWS/CBS NIGHTLY NEWS/NBC NIGHTLY NEWS/CNN/PBS/NPOR/CNN = have about 30+ Million 'DAILY' viewers...
Toss in WaPo NYT and all the online sources like MSN Yahoo news Facebook news feeds and the nutty TYT and the LIE is propagated to the Nth degree.
If we can not alter this path of the MSM Producing outright LIES - nothing else will matter.
We must dilute the MSM - by taking at least HALF THE NATIONS NEWS CONSUMPTION - or we must Break up the MSM Monopoly - because no one can beat MSM lies that are spread in this manner.
The 'BIG LIE' - is the MSM itself.
Actually, the progressive left did start a new party, remember the justice democrats. They threatened to take away enough votes that people like AOC and Bernie gained power within the party. They would later lose this power once the democrats realized they couldn't control the people they said they could control, but the democrats did adopt a lot of policies from the justice democrats, just not going all the way.
This way is much faster than forming a new party imo. Take their party. Once you have it, you can name it whatever you want
Bingo. My first action in recaptured GOP party would be to dump the stupid elephant and go with the TRUMP LION logo.
All of this is fine, and I agree. However, if we don't do something about them stealing votes, it doesn't matter what we do otherwise.
I agree, if MAGA needs to concentrate its efforts it’s in the swing states ie; MAGA state houses, Gov Mansions and especially MAGA hires and appointees of election officials.
You do realize they did this over the course of 40 years, right? You think there will be a united States left in 40 years?
There are other institutions like universities, deep state, MSM, chamber of commerce, etc etc that MAGA needs to reclaim but none of that happens without political power. I think RINOs are gone in 48 months if MAGAs stick together in GOP. MAGA will control nothing if it divides.
The radical left only took over the party in the last 10 years. Obama was elected as a black man who was thought to be a centrist. Joe Biden was considered the most liberal member of congress in 2008 when he was picked by Obama. Joe looks tame compared to these crazies they're electing now (and the people pulling Joe's strings).
We need honest elections above all.
Wrong
I will post this information again. Also, I'll save you a post, I don't GAF the information is in a Google Doc https://t.me/ScottPresler/21
GOP is controlled opposition. The people in power (in the party) are all compromised.
I think there’s 100% agreement there!
The big reason I oppose "fixing" the GOP is that people in the center, and many Democrats, want nothing to do with Republicans. They will, however, support an America First initiative.
Creating a new party, bleeding the GOP dry of support, and even taking many from the DNC will lead to a new, bloodless revolution. Most people in the center, and the center left, aren't interested in supporting Republicans, regardless of how you say you will "reform" the party.
Making a new party that invites all under the ideals of Patriotism and America First will be a clarion call for those who feel disenfranchised by either party.
Then take over the GOP structure and rebrand it The MAGA Party and change the symbol to the lion in honor of Trump. I support that 200%.
I’m sure all the other 3rd parties shared your dream but sometimes they turn into a nightmare. We have the rapist Bill Clinton his pure evil Ahillary because of a 3rd party dreamer.
That won't work. People will know that it is a reskinned GOP, and the people who want nothing to do with Republicans will want to have nothing to do with the reskinned party.
Screw that FEAR. That’s why GOP has gotten their ass kicked for the last 30 years because we care to much what others think. 75 Million GOP voters is enough to make change happen - starting with killing off the RINOs in OUR party. Eventually squishy white suburban Awomen and their Wmen we’ll experience Antifa or BLM up close and personal and understand this is about good vs evil - not winning an “I Voted” sticker.
This isn't fear. This is reality. The GOP is overrun, and everyone sees it. The Republican party, itself, was formed from two older parties. One (Dem) survived the splintering, the other (Whig) did not. We can either continue with old poison, or come up with something new.
Reality is 3rd party is not NEW it’s actually OLD.
Reality is 3rd party loses 100% of the time.
Reality is 3rd party supporters laugh at socialist who claim socialism will work this time while starting their own 3rd party claiming it will work this time.
Nice and dandy if our vote mattered
The strategy should be to audit paper ballots to see what happened in this election and get evidence in front of a court. Voting machines that allow for manipulation and connect to networks need to be banned. We have election laws, the questions is, how do we get corrupt states to follow their own laws and to follow the Constitution.
I just can't believe there isn't a mechanism to kick them out of the Republican party. Surely there is something we can do here, isn't there?
Unless you live in a caucus state the method is vote for or against them in a statewide election.
@BStoo is talking with 2 tongues. First he says destroy the GOP by not voting but then says after that we should vote cuz the GOP will be gone. You are pure bullshit. I've read and reread your posts. VERY BIPOLAR. It's meant to be that way isnt it?
Excuse me for any confusion caused. IMO the number #1 problem facing MAGA is fear - not the Democrats. This fear has been created by our own GOP leaders for the past 3 decades.
FEAR = “Have to hold our nose and vote for RINOs or the DEMS will destroy America.”
Because of this fear RINOs win every two years despite the fact they’ve done 0 to stop the DEMS. Then MAGA voters bitch for the next 2 years about GOP RINOs - rinse and repeat.
Staying home as a block of 75m GOP MAGA Voters was my first solution to getting rid of RINOs by not voting at all. My thinking has evolved to a targeted campaign of exterminating select RINOs from the Senate by either staying home in mass and not voting for GOP senate RINOs or for the truly angry GOP literally “hold our nose” and check box for DEM. Not voting is 1 vote taken from the RINO but if we wanted to double the effectiveness of the MAGA effort we’d take 2 votes from the RINO by voting for the DEM.
If you have a better, quicker more effective plan please stop bitching about me and do share.
Come on people this should be easy. Primary these SOBs with MAGA candidates. Ride the infrastructure of the Republican party to take it over. Remember the Tea Party movement? Same idea here. Only this time 100s of MAGA candidates take the ticket and form a caucus within the party that the Rinos will be forced to give way to. There are 40 members of the Freedom caucus (former tea party). Give us 150 plus members of the MAGA caucus in the house and 20 - 30 members in the Senate and we will take over the party from within. The GOP as an organization has the infrastructure and apparatus in place ready. We just need to hijack it. Dont even let a Rino or new school republican get past the primaries.
I would only add one thing. MAGA voters have to stay home in the general election too!!! We have to be willing to let a Democrat win in the general - especially if it means a RINO loss. If we’re not willing to do that as a MAGA VOTING BLOCK then the GOP RINO CLUB will always have the power. Either we take them out in the primaries or we stay home and let the Democrats. IMO this is the key to finally ridding the GOP of the McConnells, Ryan’s, McCains, Romneys and rest of the RINOs!
Stay home? Let a Dem win for the sake of revenge against rinos ? That is naive!!
No, what is naive is believing the GOP RINO CLUB lie that we have to vote for them or DEMs would ruin the country. Our country is screwed right now even though we voted for the RINOs 20+ years. Now Socialism is here in-spite (or some would say because) of the RINO’s. So we are never reclaiming any serious conservative ground politically until every RINO is taken out either in the primary by MAGA candidate or in the general by MAGA voters staying home. This is the only viable solution to absolutely winning the war long term IMO. We have to purge the RINOS like DNC purged their moderates. Let’s roll!
Look to the past a little and learn the lessons from the rise of the tea party. Duplicate that exponentially with MAGA numbers and candidates and you would create a ruling faction within the party. Young radical blood pushed the Dems. farther left. Do the same thing. In with new and then push the party back right. 75 million MAGA would vote for a MAGA loyal republican if they ran on that alone. " hello, my name is .....I'm running for..... as a MAGA Republican."
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Please interpret that for me. I'm a boomer.
Ah, misunderstanding something. The new party is so we can bypass all the Establishment GOP that immediately betray their voter base as soon as they get into office
I would rather lose the WH, Congress and the Senate than be duped again by the GOP RINO CLUB. Their lie was we had to vote for them or liberals would destroy America. Liberals are in the process of destroying America while the RINOs do nothing but yield power to them. The GOP club needs to realize we’re done with all of them. Regardless of what election promises known RINOs make they need to be primaried out and if MAGA voters stayed home for the general, McConnell and Graham etc would have lost last November. In hindsight that’s what we should have done. Let’s face it, the threat of socialism is the only reason we have tolerated RINOs the last 30 years. Now that socialism is here MAGA has no need for RINOs within the Republican Party. Vote em’ out in 2022 or stay home let DNC take em’ out. Either way MAGA wins! The only way MAGA loses is if it starts a 3rd party and divides its power between two parties.
Last night, I was thinking that no DJT supporter should vote in the 2024 election. I think it could have a strong impact. Especially if a patriot party candidate is not a viable option at that time. I would rather suffer four more years of a dem pres than vote in the GOP. Thoughts??
I think the Democrats would love this plan! They'd control all three branches of govt and make changes to solidify their majority until the end of time.
After decades of GOP promises to stop liberalism, the only thing the GOP RINO CLUB has done is slow walk the country into socialism. Therefore it’s just a matter of time, having RINOs in office doesn’t stop progressive liberals. Having MAGA leaders will. I’d rather let the DEMS fail and destroy some state economies, burn, loot and murder some urban cities and get this stupid experiment over now vs a decade from now.
The only POWER the RINOs have over MAGA voters is the fear of socialism. Once we take that “fear card” away from them they literally have ZERO power. 50 million MAGA voters staying home in a general election to insure a RINO defeat gives MAGA all the power. Dividing that power among two parties is like snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Sorry but the DNC had to allow the DSA in else they would lose power. The RNC is stupid enough to think it doesn’t need MAGA and that is a fatal mistake.
So then let’s show them that they’re wrong by staying home for GOP RINOs in the 22 and 24 general elections.
Staying home and not voting will give the Dems another 4 yrs to solidify their hold on the "election process. If you suggest staying home and not voting you are a communist democrat infiltrator. And after reading your shit posts I realize people like you will be against the wall as well. Not one single political science teacher would ever teach that shit as a strategy. The Marxist teach that shit to organizers of the opposition as a way to disenfranchise their opposition. You are a useful idiot. Or maybe not useful. Just an idiot. They ran that shit in Georgia, lost 2 senate seats and now your fuckin rights are in danger and you wanna stay home so they can gain complete control and then try to address it in 2 or 4 years. You are a demoncrat operative.
I rest my case. You epitomize the very GOP brainwashed voter I’m talking about. I know. I use to be one. I’ll bet you laugh at the minorities and brainwashed liberals that vote DEM every 2 years thinking the DEMs are really helping them. Meanwhile you’re a brainwashed, white, male conservative pulling the GOP lever every 2 years thinking the GOP leaders are helping you. LOLOL. Let me guess, you also bitch about RINOs, stolen elections and the uni-party in between your 24 month brainwashing sessions. Speaking of stolen elections, the GOP CLUB has been stealing your vote every 2 years for however long you’ve been voting. That’s the RINO version of election fraud. With that said, what is your solution? Mine is remove the GOP FEAR VOTE and let’s go hunt down and exterminate RINOs in 2022 and beyond. Let’s make them FEAR us so GOP actually does something to save us both from the wall.
Yawn. I watched my president Ronald Reagan get shot. Odds are you weren't even born then. Shut the fuck up. Kid. You dont know half of what you think you do.
Boring. I not only witnessed the shooting as an adult but actually old enough to have voted for RR twice. It appears your solution to recent election is to scream and swear at everyone. If not, what’s your alternative game plan? Seriously we have to figure this out soon and yelling at each other or blaming the DEMS isn’t a viable solution IMO.
I don’t vote for RINOs. I live in West Texas, we don’t do that kind of politics but we also don’t like the way the Republican establishment has treated Donald Trump and we won’t be backing them either. Sorry but if a new party comes of this I’ll happily send my vote their way all day every day. You don’t seem to grasp that Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, John Boehner, Mitt Romney, John McCain, Lindsey Graham etc... are all uniparty and have been running controlled opposition for decades. I’ll vote Patriot Party in the coming election.
This thread is proving my point, some like you want to start over with new party while others like me want to keep the GOP and hunt down and kill the RINOs over next 48 months. This discussion is great because it helps refine a winning strategy to do that. Implementation of a new party however is where the wining stops for everyone. I want to punish the GOP RINOS as much as anyone and believe the best way to do that is for MAGA to stay together as a 50 million voter-block. That is real opposition!
The GOP needs to be leveled. You can’t win back the GOP by playing their game. I have a friend that argues against this always saying “we just need to reform the GOP, third parties have no chance”. I’m a former libertarian voter (now independent) so I know how hard it is for a third party to succeed. But here’s my take:
The GOP is a bigger enemy than the left with their manipulation. We know the left is our enemy and they don’t hide it.
A third party with Trumps support would do far better than one such as the LP which is a fucking joke with poor leadership
Demolishing the GOP, starving them of funds, and not giving them one inch back would leave a vacuum for a strong third party to step in and become the new contender.
I’ll add that if we want to preserve any semblance of representation, it might be possible to defund the GOP/RNC as a whole while donating to MAGA republicans directly and also promote Patriot party members simultaneously.
I hope Trump destroys the GOP internally not externally. Winning as a 3rd party isn’t difficult it’s impossible. Teddy Roosevelt is on Mt Rushmore and even he couldn’t win the presidency via 3rd party. GOP RINOs will always have corporate and special interest $$$$. Millions and millions. Absolutely none of that will matter if 50 million voters stay home. All the money in the world cannot buy them the next election if MAGA shows up for MEGA candidates but stays home for the RINOs.