Yeah let's go for revenge and total submission, great idea...
Lots of people have been propagandized. On the rare moments when they see a glimpse of the truth, we should welcome them in and take the chance to work together against a common enemy. Make allies, not enemies. Every enemy we defeat is ONE enemy down, but every ally gained is TWO enemies down.
Until they acknowledge their mistake and apologize for demonizing us Trump supporters for so many years, they are still enemies to me. I still have many people in my life like this who are still treating me badly while they fail to acknowledge or even notice the hell they've created because they still live in a morally smug elitist little cushy bubble. Don't tell me I have to "rise above that" after the emotional abuse I've suffered--in some cases, a full lifetime of invalidation of my thoughts and beliefs.
I'm sure a lot of people here can relate to that - I know I can. It is painful.
At the end of the day, you can either forgive and move on with your life, or you can hold on to these feelings and allow people like this to continue to rule over your life and your emotions. Do not let them do that to you. It is hard to let go when you have been wronged so badly, but I promise you will be happier if you forgive and forget.
Move on with your life. Do not expect them to say sorry. I don't say this for their sake, I say it for your sake. Nothing good will come of waiting for apologies, or wanting revenge.
If you want to win, it always requires being the bigger man. Because even when people have wronged you, it is better to give them a chance to be allies than to decide that they are your enemies forever. That is a waste. You don't need to trust them, but when your goals align with their goals, you can use that to your advantage.
Well I'm a woman, so maybe it takes a different approach for me. :-) I get what you are saying in terms of strategy, but I blame them for what has happened more than I blame the evil people in charge, because they gave them a free pass and supported the evil while I begged them to listen to the truth, and they mocked me, and now they gloat about "winning." And I'm supposed to forgive?
I'm not sitting around waiting for them to apologize--I've moved on in my life (over 1,000 miles away a few months ago, literally!), and I do believe that "the best revenge is living well." But I also learned over a decade+ of challenging inner work that it's pointless to try to force myself to feel things that I don't genuinely feel. Worse than pointless--it damages me, degrades my soul, and makes me into an emotional slave for others to vampire off of. They get to invalidate me, my views, and my perceptions, and then plant their version of "reality" in their place. I have ruined my own life by allowing this, and I know better now, but it's still hard because I am still afraid of rejection and easily intimidated.
I do not generally choose to show those people how I actually feel (only on rare occasions), but I can at the very, very least be honest and truthful with myself and accept how I truly feel--I don't have to "rise above it." If and when I feel like forgiving them and it comes from a genuine place/feels natural, then I will do so, but that is about the furthest thing from my mind right now. The best I can muster is sort of a cold politeness or phony niceness (while avoiding talking about our differences) and then I end up feeling sick and depressed/immobile afterwards--it just happened today. Hopefully with more time and distance, I can just forget about them, but I cannot fathom a circumstance where I would align with them without some serious admitting of their mistake and apologizing for how they've treated us for so many years. I also don't know how you can read about how the FBI is terrorizing MAGA protestors and think that any of these people giving those efforts a free pass (or outright supporting it!) deserves our forgiveness. I wonder how bad it will need to get before you accept what they truly are.
No, these people don't believe voter fraud happened.
They are still the enemy.
Yeah let's go for revenge and total submission, great idea...
Lots of people have been propagandized. On the rare moments when they see a glimpse of the truth, we should welcome them in and take the chance to work together against a common enemy. Make allies, not enemies. Every enemy we defeat is ONE enemy down, but every ally gained is TWO enemies down.
Until they acknowledge their mistake and apologize for demonizing us Trump supporters for so many years, they are still enemies to me. I still have many people in my life like this who are still treating me badly while they fail to acknowledge or even notice the hell they've created because they still live in a morally smug elitist little cushy bubble. Don't tell me I have to "rise above that" after the emotional abuse I've suffered--in some cases, a full lifetime of invalidation of my thoughts and beliefs.
This comment wins because this comment is RIGHT.
Thank you, I needed that
I'm sure a lot of people here can relate to that - I know I can. It is painful.
At the end of the day, you can either forgive and move on with your life, or you can hold on to these feelings and allow people like this to continue to rule over your life and your emotions. Do not let them do that to you. It is hard to let go when you have been wronged so badly, but I promise you will be happier if you forgive and forget.
Move on with your life. Do not expect them to say sorry. I don't say this for their sake, I say it for your sake. Nothing good will come of waiting for apologies, or wanting revenge.
If you want to win, it always requires being the bigger man. Because even when people have wronged you, it is better to give them a chance to be allies than to decide that they are your enemies forever. That is a waste. You don't need to trust them, but when your goals align with their goals, you can use that to your advantage.
Well I'm a woman, so maybe it takes a different approach for me. :-) I get what you are saying in terms of strategy, but I blame them for what has happened more than I blame the evil people in charge, because they gave them a free pass and supported the evil while I begged them to listen to the truth, and they mocked me, and now they gloat about "winning." And I'm supposed to forgive?
I'm not sitting around waiting for them to apologize--I've moved on in my life (over 1,000 miles away a few months ago, literally!), and I do believe that "the best revenge is living well." But I also learned over a decade+ of challenging inner work that it's pointless to try to force myself to feel things that I don't genuinely feel. Worse than pointless--it damages me, degrades my soul, and makes me into an emotional slave for others to vampire off of. They get to invalidate me, my views, and my perceptions, and then plant their version of "reality" in their place. I have ruined my own life by allowing this, and I know better now, but it's still hard because I am still afraid of rejection and easily intimidated.
I do not generally choose to show those people how I actually feel (only on rare occasions), but I can at the very, very least be honest and truthful with myself and accept how I truly feel--I don't have to "rise above it." If and when I feel like forgiving them and it comes from a genuine place/feels natural, then I will do so, but that is about the furthest thing from my mind right now. The best I can muster is sort of a cold politeness or phony niceness (while avoiding talking about our differences) and then I end up feeling sick and depressed/immobile afterwards--it just happened today. Hopefully with more time and distance, I can just forget about them, but I cannot fathom a circumstance where I would align with them without some serious admitting of their mistake and apologizing for how they've treated us for so many years. I also don't know how you can read about how the FBI is terrorizing MAGA protestors and think that any of these people giving those efforts a free pass (or outright supporting it!) deserves our forgiveness. I wonder how bad it will need to get before you accept what they truly are.
They're not the "enemy". They are fellow Americans who have been brainwashed.
Maybe they shouldn't have been so stupid.
Potayto potato.
they’re infection vectors of a mind virus.
That brainwashing makes them the enemy.