posted ago by Saltyminer11 +4 / -0

This gets us nowhere. Change it.

This gets us nowhere. Change it.
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Liberty_Prime 6 points ago +6 / -0

No one ever fixed a problem by saying it didn't exist.

Election integrity is America's biggest problem right now and it needs to remain the center of focus.

But yeah. Giving up isn't the answer either.

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7Cory7 5 points ago +5 / -0

Well did they count this time? Let me help you out, nope!

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biden_didnt_win 4 points ago +4 / -0

Pretending your vote will count also gets us nowhere.

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loooooof 1 point ago +1 / -0

You solved it!... kudos

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TwistedSister 0 points ago +1 / -1

30 minutes.

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loooooof 1 point ago +1 / -0

Stop being gay, TwistedSister :)

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MsAnthropic 1 point ago +1 / -0

But it’s true, so.... 🤷🏻‍♀️

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Saltyminer11 [S] 1 point ago +2 / -1

I think we all can agree there is a problem. But let's take the next step forward.

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maubie 1 point ago +1 / -0

Election didn’t count and if nothing changes they will continue to be a charade. Posting this does get us somewhere as clearly not everyone accepts this. I’m looking at you “we just need to vote them out” crowd. Sufficient numbers need to accept this fact to get momentum behind what needs to be done.

So what needs to be done and a harder question is how do we bring about that change without a visit from the authorities and a trip to the Gulag? Saying “change it” simply points out the obvious “gets us nowhere”

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IBeWokeIBePraying 1 point ago +1 / -0

How many more votes do you need to "vote them out?" Well, they just found one more to "keep them in."

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subaru 0 points ago +1 / -1

The solution is the laws have to be changed so that we do not have machines and CCP bought and paid for reps that decide who will be our elected officials . . . THE ONLY SOLUTION.

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IBeWokeIBePraying 1 point ago +1 / -0

"Dear Foxes, Please let us put more reliable security around our hen house, then leave."

Foxes: "OK. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah."

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tilkibazil 0 points ago +1 / -1

good luck changing detroit you fucking retard

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TwistedSister 0 points ago +1 / -1

Okay. Then what's your plan? Or do you even have one?

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GreatestAmericanHero 1 point ago +1 / -0

Doomer post but the system must collapse. There's no fixing the federal government as long as unelected spooks, corporations, bankers and their mercenaries run it.

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Saltyminer11 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is a productive statement. We can't let what we have be the end of the story. They will not be happy until they have everything. So we have to figure out a way to stop it now.

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TwistedSister 1 point ago +1 / -0

All you did was just restate what OP said. Can we get past that point yet?

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GreatestAmericanHero 2 points ago +2 / -0

Let's just say John Galt was on to something. As long as we try and hold on to what we have and work within the system to try and rehabilitate it, we work for them.

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TwistedSister 2 points ago +2 / -0

And I'm in complete agreement with you guys that this system is beyond being saved, but not voting isn't the answer. Here, I'll give you an example.

When the GOP was first born, there were twice as many Democrats as there were Republicans...and yet they still won elections. And the Democrats were cheating something fierce back then too. So while we can't expect much to happen, doing nothing is a horrible option.

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GreatestAmericanHero 1 point ago +1 / -0

Don't get me wrong. I am not stating "do nothing" even if it apparently seems so. 🤐

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TwistedSister 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's how I took "just let it collapse" to mean, that you just sit and wait it out. Did you have something more proactive in mind?

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Saltyminer11 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Get involved in election boards, local and state government, city and county counsel meetings. Hold their feet to the fire. Too many patriots are here to not have atleadt a few who will run and stick together.

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TwistedSister 2 points ago +2 / -0

Your vote doesn't count, but you think you can hold them accountable? Isn't that the entire purpose of voting is to hold them accountable, since that's really your only way of even holding them accountable?

Does anybody around here have any ideas that are borne from common sense?