Even though Rand Paul's vote was disappointing, if you listen to his reasoning it's pretty consistent with what he has always stood for. One of his biggest concerns is the defense of state rights, and his argument was that if the federal government could vote to override the certification of the states then it would set a precedent that would take election powers away from the states and give it to the federal government. This could make it much easier to rig an election from the federal level in the future, even if that isn't the case this time.
Of all the people who voted against it, Rand Paul was the only one who actually presented a reasonable argument for his decision, so I think he deserves more forgiveness than the rest of them. And being the son of the great Ron Paul, I'm still holding out hope for what he could become in the future even if he has a long ways to go.
Here's the issue. The States where the fraud took place all set precedents. They all decided to cheat to get their guy in and this was allowed to happen at a State level to determine the head of the Federal level. We're talking about someone who leads the most powerful military and nation on the planet and thereby violating their own States' election and Constitutional laws they've effectively usurped the rights of the other States who DID NOT want the potato in office. They've effectively nullified the votes of other States who followed their laws and of people who legitimately voted for Trump. I.E. Fuck Rand Paul.
Agreed. That's why the supreme court's dismal of the Texas lawsuit based on the claim that the certification of other states didn't concern Texas was bullshit because it clearly did. Rand Paul's argument was that if the federal government had complete authority over the election results, that could potentially be more dangerous than allowing a few individual states to try to rig their own state elections.
Rand Paul was on the wrong side of the vote in this case but considering that almost every single one of the other people who voted against it gave completely bullshit "Trump incited an insurrection" reasons for their vote, and Rand Paul at least made the decision based on his libertarian principles, I don't think that it would be fair to put him in the same category of traitor as the rest of them.
Even though Rand Paul's vote was disappointing, if you listen to his reasoning it's pretty consistent with what he has always stood for. One of his biggest concerns is the defense of state rights, and his argument was that if the federal government could vote to override the certification of the states then it would set a precedent that would take election powers away from the states and give it to the federal government. This could make it much easier to rig an election from the federal level in the future, even if that isn't the case this time.
Of all the people who voted against it, Rand Paul was the only one who actually presented a reasonable argument for his decision, so I think he deserves more forgiveness than the rest of them. And being the son of the great Ron Paul, I'm still holding out hope for what he could become in the future even if he has a long ways to go.
Here's the issue. The States where the fraud took place all set precedents. They all decided to cheat to get their guy in and this was allowed to happen at a State level to determine the head of the Federal level. We're talking about someone who leads the most powerful military and nation on the planet and thereby violating their own States' election and Constitutional laws they've effectively usurped the rights of the other States who DID NOT want the potato in office. They've effectively nullified the votes of other States who followed their laws and of people who legitimately voted for Trump. I.E. Fuck Rand Paul.
"no standing" welcome to clown world.
Agreed. That's why the supreme court's dismal of the Texas lawsuit based on the claim that the certification of other states didn't concern Texas was bullshit because it clearly did. Rand Paul's argument was that if the federal government had complete authority over the election results, that could potentially be more dangerous than allowing a few individual states to try to rig their own state elections. Rand Paul was on the wrong side of the vote in this case but considering that almost every single one of the other people who voted against it gave completely bullshit "Trump incited an insurrection" reasons for their vote, and Rand Paul at least made the decision based on his libertarian principles, I don't think that it would be fair to put him in the same category of traitor as the rest of them.