1) Internet-only registration with electronic signature submission.
“(a) Requiring Availability Of Internet For Online Registration.—Each State, acting through the chief State election official, shall ensure that the following services are available to the public at any time on the official public websites of the appropriate State and local election officials in the State, in the same manner and subject to the same terms and conditions as the services provided by voter registration agencies under section 7(a):
“(1) Online application for voter registration.
2) Banning the requirement to provide a full SSN for voter registration.
SEC. 1005. PROHIBITING STATE FROM REQUIRING APPLICANTS TO PROVIDE MORE THAN LAST 4 DIGITS OF SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER. (a) Form Included With Application For Motor Vehicle Driver’s License.—Section 5(c)(2)(B)(ii) of the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 (52 U.S.C. 20504(c)(2)(B)(ii)) is amended by striking the semicolon at the end and inserting the following: “, and to the extent that the application requires the applicant to provide a Social Security number, may not require the applicant to provide more than the last 4 digits of such number;”.
3) Nationwide 'Motor Voter' registration.
Note that motor voter registration is how thousands of illegal became registered voters in California and Nevada.
(2) DEFINITION.—The term “automatic registration” means a system that registers an individual to vote in elections for Federal office in a State, if eligible, by electronically transferring the information necessary for registration from government agencies to election officials of the State so that, unless the individual affirmatively declines to be registered, the individual will be registered to vote in such elections.
4) 16 year olds required to be registered to vote.
(d) Treatment Of Individuals Under 18 Years Of Age.—A State may not refuse to treat an individual as an eligible individual for purposes of this part on the grounds that the individual is less than 18 years of age at the time a contributing agency receives information with respect to the individual, so long as the individual is at least 16 years of age at such time. Nothing in the previous sentence may be construed to require a State to permit an individual who is under 18 years of age at the time of an election for Federal office to vote in the election.
5) Nationwide same-day registration.
“(1) REGISTRATION.—Each State shall permit any eligible individual on the day of a Federal election and on any day when voting, including early voting, is permitted for a Federal election—
“(A) to register to vote in such election at the polling place using a form that meets the requirements under section 9(b) of the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 (or, if the individual is already registered to vote, to revise any of the individual’s voter registration information); and
“(B) to cast a vote in such election.
6) Grants ($25M) for using minors in election activities.
(1) IN GENERAL.—The Election Assistance Commission (hereafter in this section referred to as the “Commission”) shall make grants to eligible States to enable such States to carry out a plan to increase the involvement of individuals under 18 years of age in public election activities in the State.
7) More children voters.
“(k) Acceptance Of Applications From Individuals Under 18 Years Of Age.—
“(1) IN GENERAL.—A State may not refuse to accept or process an individual’s application to register to vote in elections for Federal office on the grounds that the individual is under 18 years of age at the time the individual submits the application, so long as the individual is at least 16 years of age at such time.
8) Prohibiting attempts to clean voter rolls of non-residents.
It's this whole section, but in particular, this part below basically says nobody is allowed to request voter rolls to be cleaned up. ie: making it illegal to do what Tom Fitton was doing.
“(1) REQUIREMENTS FOR CHALLENGES.—No person, other than a State or local election official, shall submit a formal challenge to an individual’s eligibility to register to vote in an election for Federal office or to vote in an election for Federal office unless that challenge is supported by personal knowledge regarding the grounds for ineligibility which is—
9) Murderers and rapists can vote.
(1) NOTIFICATION.—On the date determined under paragraph (2), each State shall notify in writing any individual who has been convicted of a criminal offense under the law of that State that such individual has the right to vote in an election for Federal office pursuant to the Democracy Restoration Act of 2021 and may register to vote in any such election and provide such individual with any materials that are necessary to register to vote in any such election.
10) Mandatory early voting.
Note that I personally like early voting in Florida, but putting it here anyway.
“(1) IN GENERAL.—Each State shall allow individuals to vote in an election for Federal office during an early voting period which occurs prior to the date of the election, in the same manner as voting is allowed on such date.
11) THE BIG ONE - NATIONWIDE VOTE BY MAIL, BAN ON BALLOT PROTECTION MEASURES, LEGALIZED LIMITLESS BALLOT HARVESTING.
“SEC. 307. PROMOTING ABILITY OF VOTERS TO VOTE BY MAIL.
“(a) Uniform Availability Of Absentee Voting To All Voters.—
“(1) IN GENERAL.—If an individual in a State is eligible to cast a vote in an election for Federal office, the State may not impose any additional conditions or requirements on the eligibility of the individual to cast the vote in such election by absentee ballot by mail.
“(2) ADMINISTRATION OF VOTING BY MAIL.—
“(A) PROHIBITING IDENTIFICATION REQUIREMENT AS CONDITION OF OBTAINING BALLOT.—A State may not require an individual to provide any form of identification as a condition of obtaining an absentee ballot, except that nothing in this paragraph may be construed to prevent a State from requiring a signature of the individual or similar affirmation as a condition of obtaining an absentee ballot.
“(B) PROHIBITING REQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE NOTARIZATION OR WITNESS SIGNATURE AS CONDITION OF OBTAINING OR CASTING BALLOT.—A State may not require notarization or witness signature or other formal authentication (other than voter attestation) as a condition of obtaining or casting an absentee ballot.
“(2) PERMITTING VOTERS TO DESIGNATE OTHER PERSON TO RETURN BALLOT.—The State—
“(A) shall permit a voter to designate any person to return a voted and sealed absentee ballot to the post office, a ballot drop-off location, tribally designated building, or election office so long as the person designated to return the ballot does not receive any form of compensation based on the number of ballots that the person has returned and no individual, group, or organization provides compensation on this basis; and
“(B) may not put any limit on how many voted and sealed absentee ballots any designated person can return to the post office, a ballot drop off location, tribally designated building, or election office.
12) Banning voter ID by replacing it with 'I totes promise I'm not a degenerate rigger' note.
“(1) IN GENERAL.—Except as provided in subsection (c), if a State has in effect a requirement that an individual present identification as a condition of receiving and casting a ballot in an election for Federal office, the State shall permit the individual to meet the requirement—
“(A) in the case of an individual who desires to vote in person, by presenting the appropriate State or local election official with a sworn written statement, signed by the individual under penalty of perjury, attesting to the individual’s identity and attesting that the individual is eligible to vote in the election; or
13) Roadwork for DC statehood and territory statehood.
The whole subtitle.
Subtitle C—Findings Relating To District Of Columbia Statehood
14) COMPLETE CONGRESSIONAL TAKEOVER OF REDISTRICTING.
Also includes, of course, 'muh faggoty minorities boo hoo'.
(B) ENSURING DIVERSITY.—In appointing the 9 members pursuant to subparagraph (B) of paragraph (1), as well as in designating alternates pursuant to subparagraph (B) of paragraph (3) and in appointing alternates to fill vacancies pursuant to subparagraph (B) of paragraph (4), the first members of the independent redistricting commission shall ensure that the membership is representative of the demographic groups (including racial, ethnic, economic, and gender) and geographic regions of the State, and provides racial, ethnic, and language minorities protected under the Voting Rights Act of 1965 with a meaningful opportunity to participate in the development of the State’s redistricting plan.
I am running out of time and space, but please look at this section:
SEC. 3201. NATIONAL STRATEGY TO PROTECT UNITED STATES DEMOCRATIC INSTITUTIONS. (a) In General.—Not later than one year after the date of the enactment of this Act, the President, acting through the Secretary, in consultation with the Chairman, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of State, the Attorney General, the Secretary of Education, the Director of National Intelligence, the Chairman of the Federal Election Commission, and the heads of any other appropriate Federal agencies, shall issue a national strategy to protect against cyber attacks, influence operations, disinformation campaigns, and other activities that could undermine the security and integrity of United States democratic institutions.
(b) Considerations.—The national strategy required under subsection (a) shall include consideration of the following:
(1) The threat of a foreign state actor, foreign terrorist organization (as designated pursuant to section 219 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1189)), or a domestic actor carrying out a cyber attack, influence operation, disinformation campaign, or other activity aimed at undermining the security and integrity of United States democratic institutions.
(3) Potential consequences, such as an erosion of public trust or an undermining of the rule of law, that could result from a successful cyber attack, influence operation, disinformation campaign, or other activity aimed at undermining the security and integrity of United States democratic institutions.
Literally forming a commission to effectively freeze anyone who says that the election was rigged.
If someone else wants to take over, this is where I stopped:
(If the link is wonky, it's basically at Title III, where it starts talking about grants).
I did notice a bunch of shit towards the end that is the 'WE HATE TRUMP' section. I think it says something about tax returns too.
It will pass. With huge bipartisan support. Secession is the only option at this point.
noo we can totally vote them out next time! remember we are the party of LaW aNd OrDer!
Conservative counties need to take note.
If we want to win we will have to use their tactics against them.
At this point we're the only ones playing by the rules and that changes now.
They get to play by different rules.
Antifa is equivalent to Jacobins/brown shirts/bolshevik/red guard, it's the same template used throughout history to destabilize a nation.
Antifa gets to operate with impunity, and even assistance from law enforcement.
We literally can't play by their rules, nor do we want to burn down cities.
We're in between a rock and a hard place, and the only way I see out is the military to help, cuz law enforcement is assisting in the destruction of our nation.
Support the troops? Will they support us? They're our last best hope, as we have observed that the system is corrupt, and Congress and Biden Admin are going to lock the keys to the castle, so only establishment political elites can ever be elected again.
Sorry for dooming, I'm just feeling a bit betrayed.
Anyone got a high energy meme or news for me, to lift my spirits?
It is ok to feel betrayed. I feel betrayed. I served this country. I love this country. I can’t believe the ring knockers at the top of the military brass sold us out. They let Beijing Biden steal this election and continue to shred our constitution.
We are on our own....
More us than them.
means nothing if they control communications and the F22s.... oh and the A-10s
Afghanistan prove modern armies still can't crush a local insurgency
This bill will not "destroy" America, any more than it has already been destroyed.
Trump's presidency (and theft of his second term) proved that the administrative State reigns supreme, and will not be conquered by voting.
Predator drones and Boston dynamic type robots are what we really have to worry about
If they use that kind of weaponry against us they will lose the narrative and galvanize Americans against them.
Thank you for your service, brother. My ancestors fought for our independence from the Turks for over 3 centuries. When we won, we were “rewarded” with 40+ years of communism. Then we liberated ourselves again. The human spirit cannot be defeated.
Yep and if you even DARE to disagree with ANYONE about ANYTHING at all, you are labelled an "agitator" and an outcast, only groupthink is allowed now, our culture has been defanged and "pussified". If you fight back right now, MOST Americans will not understand, for any reason at all, they will simply resent you for disrupting their Amazon Prime and stimulus checks to pay for it.
"Agitator" or "Terrorist". GOP Official 2021 Platform Survey question 18: Do you agree that convicted terrorists should NOT be allowed to vote in US Elections?
Pretty straightforward question until you consider them using the label against you
I co-founded (as CTO) a secure communications, trading, and voting company based in Rome, Italy, called "Trustless.AI". It was invaded by Five Eyes intelligence including one of Obama's CIA cyberintelligence chiefs-of-staff, German, and Italian intelligence groups. They were supposed to be our customers, we were going to sell them an ultra-secure communications device that clicks onto the back of your phone and uses a bespoke hardware, software, and encrypted communications network. High-net-worth traders and the paranoid were supposed to be in our client demographic also. Then they demanded "lawful access", I.E. a "backdoor" into all user devices and encryption. I wouldn't comply, I wouldn't build it for them, I got in a huge argument with the CEO and quit, taking their Ukrainian lead engineer with me (hehehe, we are still friends).
I assure you 100% this is their end goal, and the "touchdown" in their gameplan that will allow them to completely control all elections into the future. I saw the system they were building and I tried to stop it. The only reason the CEO and I didn't get into a huge lawsuit is because we live on opposite sides of the world and we agreed it would be pointless and a huge waste of money for both of us. Nothing will change. The state intelligence services cannot be stopped, they pwn EVERY microchip foundry, and every microchip that ships anywhere in the world under around 128nm is backdoored these days. They will MITM you, it's undetectable, they learned it from Ken Thompson. It's in the microcode now and you can't even detect the hack without an electron-tunnelling microscope and a LOT of time and money. The hack is built into the C-compiler, already compiled when it's burned into the chip, or even into the gate-level logic design inside the IC.
I work in the chip industry and vouch for what he says. It's real. I worked on the laser microscope product used by the NSA and others to analyze chips and heard about all the embedded spyware. Routers, phones, comm gear. I worked for an Israeli company that planted backdoors in cable modem technology too. Needless to say, all Intel CPUs - designed in Israel now - have backdoors and so does the 'secure bootup' BIOS firmware. I note that the hacks for chips have to be done inside the company designing the chips. I know of a Chinese company that planted system spyware inside mere audio chips used in a lot of PCs, and that was 15 years ago. For hack outside the chips, there's a major server mobo company in Silicon Valley with a Chinese-compromised staff, and mobos even have spyware parts now. Today, all PCs are compromised. Take it for granted, all phones. And everything they said about Huawei was true. CCP infiltration of telecom.
This is some doomer black pill shit. That was really depressing to read.
If it's in the microcode, how is it "activated" in the ISA?
What can we do against that? How can we communicate?
It's way past time, but okay. ?
Do not seek violence, but: Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum
I agree, secession is the only way forward.
We simply do not want to participate in their self destruction.
They will be the aggressors if they try to prevent us.
We don't need to subject ourselves to this shit.
We just need a leader to draw the line, and for us to hold it.
If they don't let you vote for who you want as president, do you really think the left, who controls all of fed gov now, is going to let ant state secede from the union? No. It will never happen.
100%
just need a state with big balls to lead the charge
The State of Jefferson. Not kidding. It would require hardcore based energy and you'd be shocked, but Far North California is deep red and blazing angry.
Truth
You feel betrayed because we were
we are the troops
Fight with honor, I'll see you in stovokor.
Absolutely based, I’m literally watching TNG as we speak when I came across this comment
Looks like we really do need to learn to code.
I already know how to code. My office is 85% Indian. They destroyed small business (They make up the middle class). Foreigners take over most of the IT jobs (more middle class jobs being exported). Raise minimum wage and import millions of poor from south america (lower class jobs being exported).
What's left? Shut up and die. As Biden said, whites will be a minority in America due to unrelenting immigration policies. It will be a good thing, diversity is our strength.
I code as well. I feel your pain.
India is full of shitty diploma mill "colleges" that "teach" programming. They produce some of the absolute worst and nonsensical programmers I've ever seen. I mean, literally just "WTF were you thinking!" levels of programming.
They write ninja code, so only they understand it, and they constantly reintroduce bugs that need to be fixed, to maintain job security.
They're the literal worst, and cause soooo much harm and wasted cost to the industry.
To clarify, I'm not being racist against Indian people. Just pointing out, objectively, the shitty programmers that come out of the diploma mills in India (Pakistan too, iirc).
I've interviewed several times where this happens:
Contracting company submits resumes, and you pick a few for initial interview via phone.
You interview a guy, and they can't answer the questions, they ask for a break.
Second guy shows up and can answer the questions you asked #1, but can't answer anything new you didn't previously ask.
You pick the best of the terrible candidates, and the guy that shows up isn't the same one as you interviewed.
Note: Its obvious they googled the question between interviews and told the interviewee the answers.
Your company forced you to pick a candidate? You couldn't just say non were remotely qualified?
Can confirm. They learn bullshit short code and have absolute no fucking idea how the shit works.
One of our clients hired an indian to export stuff from their DB. He rewrote a bunch of shit and removed nolocks. Took me an entire day to track where the dipshit removed them. No jobs ran for two damned days.
The ones that actually study - far, far too many of them cheat these days and don't even try to learn the coursework. Just duck duck go "cheating in India".
100% my experience. They have absolutely no attention to detail for how basic CSS works
For programmers, one of the most significant achievements of Pres Trump was to combat the abuse of H1B visas. It drastically cut down on the number of low-salary foreign programmers coming to our country. It even caused huge Indian IT shops to have to begin to hire thousands of US citizens. (Wait, and watch as Biden reverses this gain too. )
soon the USA will be all brown and black they are wiping out the white race. I hate to sound like a racist but the white races came from Europe and we dont bring in immigrants from Europe..they mostly come from the southern border Countries and with open borders and liberal thinking the white race here will be gone. It is their plan.
The great replacement. Not a racist, but the Globalists know only white Traditionalist nations can thwart their scheme where there will only be a tiny ruling class that lives like princes, and a miserable underclass that can be slaves or die.
Don't add the disclaimer. Don't play with their rules.
I'm a Salesforce Developer, I love and hate Indian developers at all the same time, they write some of the shittest code I've ever seen, but make me look like a genius when I can write a correct for loop..
SF Dev here too, I know your pain.
Rake in the money, and buy some land, fuck salesforce
Do while loops must blow their mind
hate to be pedantic, no one does while loops in sfdc
KEK
True
That makes sense. Have you seen there electrical systems? Does their code look like this? http://www.circleofblue.org/2014/world/indias-faltering-energy-production-damaged-water-resources-demand-modis-close-attention/
Scroll down a bit and you will see it.
Welcome to the prologue of the turner diaries. At this point, we need to become the Order. Not in terms of racial genocide, but in the complete and utter annihilation of the system. No mercy. No holds barred. Enough of this “Oh, they’ll use this to crack down on us harder” crap. What do you think the point is?! We have to make them turn up the fucking heat and drop the frog in while the water’s boiling. We have to make them push too fucking hard. So hard that even the most lukewarm of society will scream “ENOUGH!” and take fucking action!
The only problem is the normies will never know about Biden's EOs or these new laws because the MSM will edit the content, hide the facts and spin the story for the sheep, then use Big Tech to silence discussions so the real facts can't spread beyond the small percentage of we alt-media seeking patriots.
Doesn’t matter. As long as they suffer from the effects of the laws, they’ll start to get the picture.
Yup. If the heat is turned up, the brainwashed masses will never know the real reason is due to the corrupt elites. They'll make utter nonsensical bullshit up and blame it on us.
If you're over 40, and a white male, like me? Our futures are bleak. Learning to code won't override "Do not hire, CIS white male."
I have an anecdote. A few years ago I created nearly identical resumes but one with Indian name and having an alt gmail address. Also swapped company names so it would not be too obvious. I submitted both resumes for various jobs. 90% of the time only the Indian name one got any replies. These days about 95% of small job agencies are Indian owned, due to a regulation Obama championed for preferences to minority (female/Indian) owned agencies. As a result, tech hiring for contract jobs now is dominated by Indians choosing who to submit and by Indian managers choosing to pick Indian candidates. Tech hiring for perm jobs is run by mostly liberal HR managers, and it hires fewer conservative white males, preferring Asian CS grads, younger (it is VERY age discriminatory!), and minority women too.
Have you tried stealing the identity of a crippled Indian who can't speak except through a robotic translator?
Just say you must work from home, and put some Indian guy in a wheelchair to make appearances on your behalf if need be.
Like a reverse Ron Stalwarth. Except you’re fighting against actual oppression and don’t get made into a retarded Spike Lee movie.
The fact you watch Spike Lee movies means we will never have common ground.
I was think more like the movie Gattaca, but instead of society preferring gene-enhanced people, it's preferring non-white males..
This guy fucks
Damn, that's not even wrong.
Other way around. Ingress was a tech project/game by Niantic Labs, and they used the technology they developed for Ingress in Pokemon Go. Most notably the landmark/game node system.
Well next time we can't go home when told. That's not how you make your voice heard.
It should’ve been occupy DC. Just like those dirty fuckers occupied Wall Street for forever.
We didn’t have resources bussed in for us by a few hook-nosed “benefactors” like those parasites did. Mass protest and riot is not our strength. We are spread too thin to make an extended protest work. We can’t go for one powerful stab, but we will bleed this system dry by a thousand cuts if necessary. Give them no room to breathe.
They were right to occupy wallstreet though.
But they were wrong to push communism as a solution.
Patriots went home as directed by Trump (no longer GEOTUS) because they had faith there was a PLAN to prevent china joe from becoming POTUS. Had we known differently like we do now, things in DC likely would have ended with congressional heads on spikes like GOT....and its too bad it didnt happen in hindsite given the absolute treachery afoot now.
If they can still talk, they weren't violated. The same cannot be said for Ashli Babbitt.
Sometimes great men must do the unthinkable' Im paraphrasing of course...
“Reasonable men sometimes must do unreasonable things.” -The Great Saint Heemeyer.
Man, I am so glad people with a better memory than me exist. Thank you!
No problem.
Ya know, a post-apocalyptic wasteland may suck, but at least you're free...
A post-apocalyptic wasteland sure is looking much more welcoming than slavery under a Neo-Feudalistic Authoritarian Oligarch...
Just sayin'....
Say goodbye to America
Didn't do us much good to back the blue, when they helped bus in Antifa and stage a false flag attack on the capitol.
I want to back the blue, the good ones, but after the riots of 2020, most of the good ones left, and all that's left are spinless paycheck whores and thugs.
There are probably a few good ones, but 5% of the good ones can't fight the 95% of the bad ones.
At this point, the American people have no confidence or trust in any law enforcement agency, be it local(excluding some small towns), state, or federal.
Trump got back stabbed. We got back stabbed.
I'm not gonna attack the blue, but I sure as fuck am not going to back the blue, not after they back stabbed us. They're on their own now. Won't be long before the very same law enforcement agencies we backed come to our homes and drag us off to "covid isolation gulags"..... Bunch of fucking scum.
Active duty police and servicemen are a lost cause. Our best bet would be to recruit veterans. They are no longer beholden to the system.
Dont write off the servicemen in the lower ranks. They just need a leader to lead them and call for action. Unfortunately Trump didn't do it.
Although the upper echelons are full with marxists probably.
We’ll never get anything done if we’re always waiting for some “leader” to give us the signal. We have to be capable of independent action.
That Vanity Fair article showed exactly how the military leaders were all turncoats on 1/6.
Sauce?
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/01/embedding-with-pentagon-leadership-in-trumps-chaotic-last-week
It was literally Trump vs. the entire military brass the whole time. Of the 3 people profiled (Miller, Cohen-Watnick, and Patel), only Patel is sort of neutral and feels like he's just giving the reporter what he wants to hear. Still a far cry from the saviors these people were portrayed as in the final weeks.
The Truth About George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin
Are YOU The Next George Zimmerman or Darren Wilson?
The Truth About Michael Brown and the Ferguson Riots
Afaik police didn't bus in anyone. I saw a video where the guy that reports it says he saw police get off the buses and was mistaken.
Wish I still had the link.
Cool story, bro.
Look at the original tweet. I think on the guy's profile he had posted another video with the tattoo guy talking about it.
Or whatever I don't give a shit.
This should be a wakeup call to any authright retards. The government is not your friend and cannot provide anything for you, and never can.
Typical police in big cities are crap. Everything really is just an extension of big-city dysfunction.
Not a single downvote. Glad this is finally hitting the 2022 crew.
Why is it so important to you that everyone give up and quit trying?
Voting won’t work lol, it’s time for civil disobedience
They literally have software that eats up our votes. You think they’re just gonna stop using it?
Trust the Plan.
Trust the Plan worked for the Soviets as a stalling tactic. We got screwed.
yeh well with this passed u can't anymore no matter what.idk why they even try to keep the illusion of vote.
eh, that or in 2024 there's 500 million votes for President once conservatives also start over-the-top cheating.
When there's more votes than humans living in the country do you think the Supremes will finally act?
Texas could easily give Republicans the popular vote win by voting 110% red.
Texas should have done this during this election. Texas could have sent like 8000 electoral votes just to fuck with the cheaters. Who is gonna say no to them? The Supreme Court? They've already proven that they don't give a shit about the Constitution.
Of course they don't care about the Constitution. They care about making sure conservatism dies in this country. Anyone on the right who cheats will be caught and punished dearly. All those on the left who cheat will be given bullshit "muh standing" arguments or not even given the time of day. The Constitution will only be used as a weapon against us when it's applicable, but otherwise ignored.
It died with the invasions...You are now FORCED to accept it
So very true, sadly.
I feel like we've been checkmated. Unless Trump wasn't fucking with us when he said, "The best is yet to come."
Actually, yes, the supreme court would have gotten involved if the red states had cheated in Trump’s favor. It’s a one sided game at every level. One side is beholden to the law, at first by choice and now by force, while the other side is entirely unrestricted.
That's basically it, if it's all legal now, it becomes the party who can print the largest number of ballots. There's nothing to lose at this point, and everything to gain. Literal video evidence of fake ballots and double counting, and everyone accepts it because it's democrats. Media is moving past the sale and forcing us to accept it, might as well cheat more.
Maybe we need to remind them of it, 556 times in groups of 3
Yup.
When you have to constantly remind people that Biden didn't win this election, you know that the media was successful in their brainwashing.
They doesn't matter, every other state would go blue
This. Look at the margins in red states. Ballot harvesting would flip all of them. Nevermind the fact legislators won't remove illegal or double or underage voting. It would be over forever
Have you ever watched the show, the Expanse?
Specifically the part where Bobbie, the martian born woman is back on earth and trying to get to the ocean, she meets a poor homeless black dude who offered to show her where it's at in exchange for some drugs she has to help get her body use to earth. She thought, because of his appearance, that he was a drug dealer. Turns out that he was going to sell the drugs in order to buy a months supply of another drug to help sick children recover from drinking sewage water.
She asked him if he was a doctor because of his knowledge of medicine, and he said he applied for vocational training and employment for the medical field at age seventeen. Now he is 53 years old, and still on that waiting list.
After I saw that scene, I couldn't help but think how much that future could be a reality because of what they did in this election. They stole this shit from us. No fight. Nothing. We just let it happen.
As a result, America died. It's only a matter of time before something like the U.N. takes over and replaces our constitution. It will essentially turn us into one big E.U. - like government where we as a people no longer have a say in who governs us. Only the rich and powerful get those jobs while we will be forced to live in the streets begging for a job, only to be put on UBI and told we have to wait for training that may never come.
I think about that scene a lot too, nowadays.
Oh fuck me pedes, I'm dooming right now...
GEOTUS!!! Come back to us!
That's depressing
Weren't there a bunch of blue states trying to make it so that their electoral votes would go to whoever won the popular vote?
If those cities were liberal, things would be going much better. No, they're Democrat strongholds, and we know how corrupt those cocksuckers are.
Yeah, "Liberal" arts are massively bullshit programs. But look at how badly mis-named "Social Studies" are as well. Good to hear you were in a class filled with people redpilled about that dumb shit.
What do Socialists and Progressives do? They lie. The lie and lie. And they redefine everything to cover for their lies.
I'm not calling a man a woman, I'm not calling a woman a man, and I sure as fuck am not calling a Commie anything other than a Commie, not matter how much they lie about who they are.
National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, which is very, very, very likely violates the Compact Clause in Article I, Section X of the Constitution that says states can’t enter into agreement/compact with each other without Congressional approval, but we are in a post constitution America.
Who is going to tell them it's unconstitutional? Our cowardly SCOTUS? They'll cuck out because they fear liberal back lash, they're not scared of us.
SCOTUS literally told Antifa, keep rioting, and we will do as you want.
Next up Biden will remove restrictions on immigrant voters. Even an illegal with a Cal DL will be able to vote.
They'll get arrested for fraud if they do that. There's no winning.
I thought state legislators make rules for their elections
Not in Communist America
Get the musket
"but the optics! why won't you think of the optics!" - cuckservatives.
Yeah, I fell for this shit too. That was before realizing that they will actually just overthrow by stealing an election so optics don't matter
Yeah thats why they dont worry about optics.
Also their big tech buddies will literally block negative articles about them
Look at their optics now. Literal usurper in power and every EO signed was to destroy the US. All good though, carry on. Shits nuts.
Reality is that, WE DO NOT HAVE 4 OR EVEN 2 YEARS TO STOP THIS.
We are ALL in serious danger.
We will barely get through the month at the rate he’s going.
Either we are or they are. They're cranking the heat up very quickly on the pot and pepe ain't too happy 'bout it.
Hide your eyes then.
They do. This is unconstitutional.
They do, this is lawsuit bait.
Yes, these would require amendments to change.
We need to realize some people don’t want to be saved. I was always mystified by those Maoist Chinese who gave up their neighbors and family to be killed by the State for not being loyal enough. We aren’t far from that. Anyone who doesn’t see the tsunami of fascism that’s coming is an enemy.
At this point I hope they keep adding garbage like this, it'll just make secession happen faster.
What's the secession plan? Give them huge chunks of the US and hope that satisfies them?
Carve out a piece of land and resources for patriots, a base of operations, to retake our nation from this satanic globalist cabal.
That's not how that would work. People would just start getting used to there being two nations, and the Socialist infiltration and subversion in the new US would start all over.
People will say "We don't want a war! Let's just keep it this way!"
Meanwhile, it all repeats again, without a shot being fired.
We have to cut off the cities and destroy Chinese-owned farmland. Siege and salt the earth. We're at Hunger Games levels of corruption and communism here.
We need to stop playing on their ground by their one sided rules. Time to tear off their masks and call them out for what they are, and reclaim our Republic.
China already did fly by salting at one point, but they ended up getting the end of it as well. Can't remember where I read it, but it was through the use of balloons with a soldier using a type of glove to sprinkle the salt, and another that uses the same concept as today's wheeled fertilizer spreaders just instead with a crank with the plate that the salt is funneled down to so that a split bamboo would push it off.
Okay, good luck at the polls. I'm sure your guy will win, next time.
Who's stupid enough to think that's even an option anymore?
Then we raise our people to love war.
I have no issue at all with an honor-bound warrior culture.
Let's make "oathbreaker" the worse thing you could be called again.
We build a wall!
Communists love hard borders. It's another rule they can use against their enemies as they ignore them.
The Plan? Texas moves to secede. Alaska moves 12 hours behind them. Various States try and align with either.
Internal Blue factions raise tensions as the overall process is started forward. Internal violence is inevitable, but given the rising levels of frustration, are likely to be suitably more brutal than the Left is either ready for or able to handle. The CCPUSA, not to be Cucked, is eventually forced to military intervention. Already bruised, but tempers raised, seceding States will be short to meet the challenge head on and outright aggression begins.
Secession won't be about peaceful leaving. It will spark into War, as assuredly as it did the first time.
I'm just counting on enough Pedes in Occupied Territory to give them shit till we can organize supply lines for the counter offensive.
.... Not that I have thought about this a little or anything. The Founding Fathers KNEW this was inevitable. Watering the Tree wasn't just hyperbole. They are just forcing the time frame.
People think I'm crazy when I say that secession and Civil War will mean having to go door-to-door to kill your Commie liberal neighbors, because if you don't, they will do the same to you.
Anybody who hasn't already started making a careful observation of who they can band together with and who will turn on you better start.
No. It means organizing our country. Let the left destroy itself, that's what communism is really good at doing. We take back the entire country by war.
It takes lifetimes and millions of deaths. The USSR was 1919-1989. It also requires a bright shining star, showing there is an alternative. During the Cold War, the bright star was the West. Don't kid yourself, this time it's gonna be the dark ages.
True, but how many Kulaks had a fully stocked arsenal? It's not gonna be easy, but I don't really see any other option.
Once you create new hard borders for the socialists to hide behind, they're going to once again apply the rules to you that they ignore. People will obey those new rules as the Socialists continue to ignore them and deep across the border infiltrating and subverting. Once hard borders are established, any talk of invading and reclaiming the former US will be called evil and violent by both honest actors and bad faith actors. However, as we've seen with Vietnam, Korea, Germany, and everywhere else they was divided, the Socialists will have no issues constantly being on the offensive, be it militarily, ideologically, culturally, or socially.
Either we fight them back on our home turf now, while we have the advantage, or we die later.
Yup. Secession = concession.
Ask South Korea how secession's going for them (and the whole far east region of the world at that).
So secessionists not only want to concede the majority of America, the land men and women have fought and died for, to communists just so they can live next to a dipshit totalitarian state that hates them or two.
Secession won't solve any problems. It'll cause all new ones. That, and it'll never happen.
It would be much easier to just force our despotic rulers to step down. They'd crap their pants and give up at the slightest pushback.
If only "patriots" had the guts.
Provoke not the anger of the righteous man
So it's just a formality so that at least you can say you didn't cast the first stone?
Fuck that and just get on with it already!
10% of colonists supported revolution.
Any secession attempt will either trigger a war or a brexit-like economic tiff like the UK is having right now.
Once you're independent, you gotta build every framework back up from scratch. Ask the founders how hard it is keeping a fledgling nation together with the entire world breathing down your neck.
And through it all, the corrupt despotic sonabitches still exist there in the town of Washington's name.
Wouldn't it just be easier to make them leave?
Name checks out.
If I had a BJ for every retard who thought they were clever for saying that.
They cast the first stone by killing Ashli Babbitt.
They've cast a million stones. And we've just sat here and taken it.
Fuck that and just get on with it already!
Mr. Big Talk. Must be hard job larping for the FBI.
I'm sorry your balls never dropped.
The majority of America's landmass is red, as are its people. It's more like just kicking out the idiots.
There is no escaping them and there is no keeping them out.
We flee to gab > They smash gab's servers
We try to meet in person > they institute "lockdowns" and curfews.
We try to homeschool our kids > They make it a criminal offense
They'll shut down our churches They'll fire us from our jobs
Freedom of assembly is an inalienable right specifically because it is one of the first things to go.
Tyrants will pursue you relentlessly to the ends of the earth no matter how far you try to flee or no matter how high you try to barricade yourself from them. And they will do so by increasingly despotic - and yes - violent means.
You will never be free of them unless you make them go away.
Huh South Korea secession is going great for them. So will UKs in the long run. Better to not join like Switzerland. But US was much smaller then. You do not need countries as big as the USA. It's simply not worthwhile in the modern world.
I agree that the size of the US "representative" government is too big. But our land is not.
Men and women fought and died for that land, they made it their home. I am not giving an inch of America over to communist scum!
America used to drive communists out of other countries. Now we can't even find the balls to drive them out of our own.
There's no reclaiming places like Seattle and California. Its a banana republic x1000 already.
Geographically, 90% of California is red.
Southern California. I hear Northern CA is pretty based. The problem as always is big city Democratic strongholds.
Nonsense. We can take San Diego - and go from coast to coast. It will be very easy to win once we start crushing them economically. Everyone will want to switch.
Its North Dakota, Wyoming and Arizona that will are going to have to bring in. But places like New Mexico which SEEM to be leftist will cave very fast. Watch.
Why not? They were able to scheme and plot and they took it from us in the first place. Stop endlessly giving ground to the enemies of the Republic. Fight, god damn you!
Don’t count on it.
Rock bottom must come first. Only way. I fear it's going to take actual camps to redpill some retards.
Stop with secession nonsense. Idaho, Texas have talked about it for 50 years. I don't believe the Q crap plan, Operation Truth, but this looks a lot like ever other communist revolution. Don't know how this will end but I pray we will end free.
Now all the troops make sense. They knew all along they were going to need protection.
They're cucks for helping
just doing my job, above my pay grade, and other excuses for sacrificing your principles and the country.
Your username is so good it might incite an erection.
They should all turn their backs to them and let us gather like the fucking law says we can.
Keep saying this on here.
For years, we supported Police and the Military. Now, these idiots are supporting our enemies. Who are also THEIR ENEMIES!
These morons are going to help the very people who despise THEM AND US destroy the country!
Veterans with working brains.
Kind of a parallel to that point about "The only reason a government takes a citizenry's guns is because they're going to do something that the citizens would shoot them for."
Looks this way. I wonder how many Bill's they can rush through making Democrats the only winners and dictators for years to come. It's not been long and 1776 comes full circle.
Or the militarys got all evidence of everything due to NSA and trumps help and is preparing to have them all arrested now that they cant call trump a dictator? Just saying i dont think trump would just throw away his whole life and country because he was scared of using that card..
And when do you suggest this will happen? The evidence has been there for months now...could have tried them all for treason when he was in office.
Supreme Court and DOJ are in on it so no he had no chance of that. Military Tribunals wouldn't happen as well due to the slaves of the politicians.
Just start calling everyone in Congress that was against Trump China Officials for that is what they are.
Yea and had 20% of the country on the streets thinking hes a tyrant
You're talking about the paid aunt Tifa?
not just them every single leftist whos been brainwashed for years theres a lot of them think of all the sheep who went along with blm they would freak out and the rich elite would all sponsor it soros would go all in on that it would be their last stand
You've GOT to stop smoking whatever it is you currently are.
Just some weed, but I could tell you the same thinking Trump would just leave office silently like a bitch effectively signing his country’s death warrant do you even know him
He's gone dude. It's over.
Yea no shit he’s gone bud. If you think he just handed over his country to communists then you think he’s a coward and a bitch. There’s no other way around it. Any other patriot would have died before doing that. And that’s not even considering what they’ll do to him. By your reasoning he did nothing. Either he’s a patriot or he’s not. You decide.
Voting age 16, no IDs and universal mail-in ballots? Okey dokey!
Progressive, not liberal.
who cares
We are mostly liberals, we are ok with people thinking and living differently, for some reason in America liberal is used to mean leftist (probably by design)
You don't want to preserve traditional American ideas and values?
Yes I do, the founding fathers were classical liberals
100%
The people trying to get us to properly identify our ideological opponents.
If you don't understand who you're facing, you're not going to be able combat them very well, are you?
I notice you called them progressives instead of Marxists
I know. That was intentional. Marxists are pretty clearly Marxists. Progressives are the Useful Idiots or the secret Socialists that spout this stuff while calling themselves or being called Liberal. The distinctions between Progressives and Liberal needs to be clearly delineated. Marxists will tell you they are Marxists (if they're not busy trying to be a subversive 5th columnist) and Progressives don't think of themselves as Marxists.
I don't see how calling them progressives, which is inherently a positive word, is better (or different at all) than calling them liberals which covers it too.
I'm grateful for your comment. There are a lot of reasons why. First off, it's to make people see them as distinctly different ideologies, because they are. Allowing them to slide around at will calling themselves whatever suits them in the moment gives them mobility, and you always want to deny your enemy mobiltiy, either ideologically, politically, or militarily.
Second, once they are pinned down, you keep hammering at what Progressive actually means. To progress society to a state that is ready for Socialism. You make Progressive as much of a dirty word as SJW, which itself used to be a positive term as well. You make sure people associate it with race and sex collectivism. Make people associate Progressive with high taxes and crushing social control. Make sure no one forgets they are the social witch hunters.
People who identify as Liberal do not identify with Socialism. Progressives do. That is thr key thing to smash them with. Draw Liberals back from the cliff edge into the fold of those who fight the subversive Socialist seeking to destroy everyone loyal to the ideas of the American Republic.
Every Liberal you can save from being poisoned by Progressivism by making them your friend hurts the Socialist cause at least three ways. They lose a potential recruit. They gain another enemy. They lose more of the narrative that their membership is liberal.
Learn to outmaneuver those we battle against ideologically, socially, and culturally. Because that is how they are conquering us. We need to think of this war in the concepts of ideas, labels, and language. So far I see most people still thinking in terms of military and weapons.
I believe the term we're looking for is marxist/communist.
The founding fathers were liberal progressives. Don't let communists sully and cheapen the term like they've done to so many others.
Not progressives. Classical liberals.
Well yeah. they didn't call themselves progressives.
liberalism and progressivism is a slippery slope to communism.
so is democracy and secularism, unfortunately.
I don't disagree per se, but without the classical liberalism that came out of the enlightenment, America never would have been founded and western civilization (such as it is) would still be mired in monarchy and dictatorships.
That is bullshit. They were not progressives in any form. Progressivism is a 20th-century framework.
It is. "Progressive" was not a term they used to describe themselves.
But progress they did make. Arguably one of the single greatest leaps of cultural and scientific progress in western history at that time.
They made progress but that doesn't mean their worldview was about society needing to progress in general. It was just the opposite, especially in Jefferson's camp: Society's in its best state whenever people are free to simply tend their own affairs, live virtuously, and reap the benefits of their work.
No, Progressive was never a term they would have recognized. It was originally coined to describe an ideology that was progressing a society towards embracing socialism.
A Progressive Liberal is not a thing. There are Progressives, and there are Liberals, but not a combination of the two. A Progressive is either a Useful Idiot for Socialists or a subversive Socialist infiltrating society.
If their ideology seems like "progress" to you, there is something wrong with you.
It is to them...and they run the show.
Doesn't mean we have to submit to using their Orwellian newspeak.
That's where the term "Progressive" came from. It meant to progress society to the point of embracing socialism. They are snakes in the grass. Dont allow themselves to camouflage their wicked intent by hiding behind other false labels. Make people see Progressive like who we see Social Justice Warrior now. Shame that label into extinction and take away one of the ways they try to work into society. Make Liberal distinct from that corrupt ideology so they can't even attempt to associate with it anymore.
Semantics. We can change the meaning of words too.
Except you didn't change that one. You let Communists and Socialists change that one for their own means. Semantics is how socialists subvert society and culture. Stop giving them ground. Take back the ground they took from us. Unless you think a woman can be a man and a man can be a woman? Just semantics, right?
So what's the issue then? If they want to label themselves liberal, then let the meaning of liberal be a synonym for "communist".
No one hears "PrOgReSsIvE" and thinks "communist", and trying to force that term into the mainstream is not doing any favors. If they want to be called "liberals" then let them be called "liberals" and we'll simply change the meaning of the word to mean the same as "communist".
Gender argument is a terrible strawman, and the example itself isn't even close to what the word "semantics" means.
You don't know what straw man means if you think that's what constitutes a straw man argument.
The ideological weapon that Socialist most love to use is the Postmodern idea of breaking everything down until it has no meaning and then rebuilding anything to suit your needs in the moment, while denying your enemy the same opportunity.
By constantly letting them redefine language, you are going to be constantly surrendering ground to them. Language informs thought as much as thought informs language. You want to give them that power? More the fool you. You walked right into their hands.
Have you ever thought about why they worked to allow Liberal to be associated with Communist or Socialist? Why they never try to separate themselves from an ideology that was in opposition to their own beliefs? Because they knew having Conservatives shun Liberals as Socialist isolates them. Isolated Liberals make far easier prey for Progressives to mind poison, especially when there's people like you calling Socialists and Progressives "Liberal" instead of what they are.
So off goes the Liberal to "Liberal" groups and organizations, not knowing what they are, soon to be surrounded by "Liberals", not understanding why nothing they do sounds very Liberal, until eventually they get absorbed into the cult.
So instead of being lazy, both intellectually and ideologically, why don't you treat this shit fucking seriously, seeing as such ignorance is allowing these people to prey on our society and corrupt it from within?
Have they met the average 16 year old? It's rubber stamping who the media and teachers told them to support. Fishy, because they claimed to have the best voter fraud system in the world, so they shouldn't need to exploit the youth. I voted conservative at 18, but was definitely immature.
Yes. They don't care. They just need to have "everyone" on the voting list, because that means more people "who didn't vote", for which they can assign democrat votes.
And so leftist teachers can tell kids how to vote
Or more likely, the Nickelodeon Kid's Voice Awards will tell kids how to vote.
And it will be legitimate this time...
Ding ding ding. laughs in re-education camp
This. People need to wake up and stop thinking Democrats are stupid. They totally outsmarted Trump with the whole Coronavirus thing.
What he SHOULD have done is say - hey we are not shutting down until we see that is the right thing to do. Instead he caved - allowed shutdown - allowed UBI and and allowed mail in voting.
It was a great ploy because Trump is hyper worried about diseases and he cares about the average American. They got him.
And they will get us if we don't wake up..
Contrary to what you seem to believe, Trump was not a dictator, and couldn't force States to do whatever he wanted.
The issue is the governors and other supposedly "republican" officials in those States.
"Republicans" passed the mail in and shit, bypassing the state legislature, in unconstitutional manners. The people of those States need to force the audits, and reverse those RINOs. The audits aren't done.
Not true. He could have made the states ACTUALLY VOTE ON THE RESTRICTIONS - which is in the Constitution - instead of letting leftists mini dictators pass emergency rules that last for months and months.
it is one thing to not be a dictator - it is another to use NONE of the power granted to you. Biden say what you want - but his team knows how to use power. Trump was weak when we needed strength. Relying on Pence to stop the fraud? Ridiculous and Weak.
Sorry I liked the guy but this is Patriots.Win now and we need to tell it how it was. HIs final year he totally fucked up.
well you teach them to trust a magic jew in the sky that's done nothing to stop any country from submitting to commies, why would they.
What would've happened?
Is that what you idiots tell yourself? Bold fucking claim that makes zero sense.
I know, that's the plan, to get very young voters out there who usually vote Dem.
It appears this bill would allow them to register at 16, but still not vote until they're 18, right?
yeah, sure
They’ll be voting 100% D just like the dead.
My four children identify as 16 years old and also have multiple personalities, each which demands a vote. 4000 ballots please!
Try peaceful secession first, although secession is the first step of civil war aswell.
They know their system would fail if not for the states that would leave. They would force war 100%
China would be coming for humanitarian efforts a d peace keeping you know.
We can call that a target rich environment
It would most certainly be that lol.
or the UN
You grant them too much intelligence and self-honesty. They truly do not understand economics and truly think they're God's gift to earth, and would ascend into an enlightened society without us dragging them down
There's a reason California hasn't implemented its universal healthcare even though it's full of commies.
They need to steal money from the rest of the states to fund their illegals.
Good point. Time to go Galt.
What's peaceful secession get you? You surrender huge parts of the country to Socialists on the understanding that the Socialists will be happy with the giant sections of North America they now control and won't come after you?
We can beat them in a war, especially if we have defined territory. Plus we can build a giant wall around it and not let any communists in. What other option do you have? Voting?
Our establishment hacks will fold at the slightest pushback. They're weak, spineless cowards. These twits aren't warriors like Adolf. They're not thugs like Josef.
They're bureaucrats! The only reason they've lasted this long and gotten away with everything they have is because they've gone completely unopposed.
They would submit to us so easily America's "civil war" 2.0 will look like a joke.
All we gotta do is nut up.
You do realize it won’t be as easy as you think. There are staches of guns for the Left (like the piles of bricks found in summer riot locations) and all they need is to unleash gangs of prisoners, urban youth etc to subdue rural areas caught unaware.
I never said it would be easy. I certainly never claimed it wouldn't be messy.
What I've said is that it won't be as hard as people think. People envision taking on the MIGHTY US GOVT and all its EPIC WAR MACHINES and DESPAIR!!
Well... how good were all those war machines in Iraq? Afghanistan? Veitnam? etc.
And this time the bureaucrats and corporate suits would be the targets. They're squishy.
Sure, the despots are going to arm the anarchists and send them off to rampage and cause wanton destruction. They'll pretend to be the very people fighting against them to try to hoodwink the public.
It will, sadly, not be altogether much different than the IRA situation in the UK. And need I mention that eventually worked out for them?
But the bureaucrat's pet thugs can be ignored. They're not the objective. They can try to face militia in battle but thugs aren't interested in a fair fight. That's what the military is for anyway and the military is gonna have a tough enough time fighting their own neighbors in the streets.
Once American militia have dealt with our traitorous government complex it can be time to go to work mopping up the run of the mill malcontents they've unleashed on us. We wouldn't have this problem with antifa and blm if our govt was legit in the first place.
Bear in mind that the bureaucrats and suits will submit. They will surrender easily. They don't have the spines or the gumption to go down fighting. They're a house of cards. Once the first few step down the rest will follow.
From there, America holds legitimate elections to replace them. It's sad that election reform has to come at the barrel of a gun but that's the situation we're in.
Anarchy on the streets exists so long as the despots are in place. They will always utilize thugs to intimidate citizens. That only stops once the traitors are out of the way.
I got you and I hope you’re right. We’re just all coming to terms with where we really are as a country but we never surrender. We never give up. Godspeed pede!
That is my fear. They always project so we should absolutely acknowledge they are prepared. They realize that the right will passively wait to the last minute to gather a defensive front. Too little, too late.
So when the revolution happens, they get replaced with loyalists from the revolutionaries.
You're assuming secession will be on state lines... I'll bet you a shitload of red counties will leave their states to join the New Union.
No, I wasn't assuming it would be by state line. I always assumed counties would cross state lines to join. But the problem is that's not going to happen everywhere. The other problem is it's not likely to happen everywhere that's Red. Plenty of GOP faggots will move to stop their statr or their counties from joining. Unless you think thr GOP as it is right now would suddenly see the light and becone patriots again?
Unless secession is actually just a reason to justify kicking off a hot civil war to reconquer the entire United States from the corrupt and the communist, it's just going to break us up into smaller pieces for the CCP to digest.
Regroup
Rebuild
Conquer.
Their plan is:
If we give them huge swaths of territory and population for them to take explicit control of, they're going to be even more powerful, and the hard borders work to their advantage. Socialists have always used borders as line to keep Western nations from doing anything. They ignore borders while Western populations do not. They will attack the newly seceded nation culturally, socially, and ideologically the same way they already attacked the US. Any talk about reconquering the former United States will be made to look villainous and evil, even as they conquer from within all over again.
We fight here now, or we die there later.
Whats the alternative? Watching how they take control of the whole fucking country and lining up for gulags? Secession has at least some chance that your children will have a good future in front of them instead of being brainwashed marxist drones.
The problem is you are relying on a false hope as an excuse to not fight now. Secession will only mean they have learned that everything they've done up to this point was what they need to keep doing to eventually win everything.
We must break their system here, now. Conservatives give ground forever, and never ever get it back. Liberals attack too deep and get overtaken by their ideological enemies. We need to unite, use our temperments in conjunction to cover our weak spots, and we need to break this ideological force that is destroying us. It's either here now, or never. We'll just continie to be subverted forever wherever we go until we are no more.
Stop giving communists ground. Just fucking stop.
We've got to make it look like they're attacking us for image reasons.
You mean making them look like roving bands of leftists burning cities down, destroying monuments, and murdering people for the mere suspicion of being a supporter of an opposing political candidate?
Something tells me it won’t get the reaction you’re hoping for.
The news channels will lie about it.There are some people who can be won over by showing them real videos of what happened and all that.
Fuck that we are not giving up territory. They will just invade and split it again. Expel the socialists!
That's not tactically sound.
Lets be real: we're losing this war. We're overextended, underfunded, and outmatched. If we continue to try and fight on every front, we're going to lose completely. The only way we have any hope of winning is consolidating our forces and fortifying our strongholds so we can repel the ongoing invasion.
The only way we can possibly win without a tactical retreat is by going hot and nuking several major cities to eradicate their power base, sacrificing the people we still have in those places at the time.
We've seen their strategy now. If we withdraw and regroup, we can establish safeguards to prevent it from working again. Then, and only then, can we take the fight to them
No one ever successfully defended anything. To win you MUST ATTACK!
You don't understand: the Democrats are China.
And many RINOs like Mitch
Jou Baiden sign anything
Worst case I'm in favor of burning down the world with us.
It actually could be very quick, if we all did it right now before they had time to prepare. They all congregate together, DC and the state capitols. Just go in all at once, take out the trash, and be done with it.
They would have to hold all new elections if they weren't "captured," but instead were...no longer able to fulfil their role, as it were. Plus I know it counts as "terrorism" but if people have that fear that if they sell out the American people they will be dealt with, they might not be so inclined to sell us out again.
Only problem is advertising that genre of plans out in the wide open, like on the internet... People need to plan that shit offline, locally, no technology around that can record them.
No, this one is better to broadcast loudly and for everyone to hear. Them thinking that we will actually go through with civil war if this passes might actually deter them from passing it.
Not it won't. Our despotic marxist bureaucrats are immune to words. It's been nothing but talk talk talk for years and years and they're completely unphased.
They ban us from speaking everywhere and we open our own channels of communication and they still don't care. Some day they'll just shut those down too.
No, we can talk until we're blue in the face. The traitors won't get the message until someone does something.
Nothing we do is going to deter Joe Biden's handlers or congress. They don't care about us. The rabid, ridiculous left voters want us dead. Haven't you figured that out by now?
If people aren't already in contact with a local militia group, then they don't understand what's happening.
The first step to a civil war is to seize the communication lines so as to prevent fake news spreading.
Silicon Valley has to be the first target, or else it's an uphill battle all the way.
A revolutionary secession, peaceful at all costs.
I never thought the US would end in my lifetime. God knows none of us want this. Nobody does. But how does Joe think this is going to end if he keeps destroying jobs?
This isn't the intangible bullshit problems the soft headed liberals had with Trump. This is real. Jobs are being lost. Costs are going to rise. More jobs will be lost when that $15hr hits. Right now, stimulus checks are the opiate of the masses but they'll soon grow tolerant of that high when two thousand dollars is better kindling for lighting barrel fires. We've already seen this in Zimbabwe. Why can't our leaders learn from the mistakes of others?
Perhaps this is the goal for those pulling the strings. Perhaps a slow death was planned and Donald Trump scared the hell out of them. Now they're speeding towards that finish line. It scares me. It really does. Donald Trump's only mistake was having mercy on his enemy. He is too good of a man and the world doesn't deserve him. He left his enemy capable enough to continue fighting.
Joe isn't driving this. This bill was introduced by Sarbanes, and is co-sponsored by Pelosi And Loftgren. (Both CA reps)
This is as progressive as it gets. Obama is behind this bill. I wouldn't doubt that Valerie Jarrett's team wrote it. This is "fundamentally changing America", as Obama loved to say. Each element of this bill should be a catfight in the halls of Congress alone, but no, they're going ALL in. They are trying to remove any way for a non-DNC candidate to win in this country ever again.
This is the biggest powergrab I've ever seen by any politician. And it will pass, because the Republic fell on the 6th. You're going to see the MSM educate the left zombies why all of it's a good thing, and they will accept it, with no pushback.
This is it, folks. This is why Trump had to win.
It will not necessarily pass.
Filibuster is still a thing in the Senate. And they have the Gentleman's filibuster at the moment, so you basically just submit a slip and the bill silently dies.
If they kill off the slip method, then we need Republicans to stand up and filibuster continuously, handing off one to the other - for the remainder of Biden's term if need be. That may sound crazy but it's the only check we have, and we must use it if it comes to it.
Joe Biden and Obama were never doing much of anything. They have handlers and controllers. Joe Biden is too busy sniffing little girls and Obama is having fun with his $30,000 dollars worth of hot dogs.
Bingo, Alex Jones talks about it because the globalists talk about it. American is done, China is their new obedient pitbull to wield a one world government.
Only thing truly stopping it is the USA. Europe is completely cucked and given another 50 years will be unrecognizable.
With Joe's mighty pen, we're going to catch up with Europe real fuckin' quick. Lifted the travel ban from the state sponsors of terrorists. We're about to get flooded with "refugees." The middle east will be destabilized by Joe's war and we'll import the third world Joe's bombing the shit out of. Islam will sweep the field. The US will get "hate speech" laws. I predict this inside the next two years. Maybe even one year.
They want Balkanization because that would allow Chinese troops to setup shop and n North America.
Hate to break it to you, but they've already done that. They're already here in North America. They're "training" in Canada. Or at this point, more like Chinada
That’s small potatoes, saw all that. I’m talking gigantic, cheaply made knock off bases.
Europistan.
They don't know what they're doing. They have no grand plan.
Ever seen The Dark Knight? Remember what Joker says? "I'm like a dog chasing cars. I wouldn't know what to do with one if I caught it."
All these freaks do is chase $$$ and power. They don't think ahead. All their actions are purely reactionary. That's why they're so predictable. They're dumb and emotional, like children. What we're witnessing now is no different than a childish tantrum coming from them.
We've been standing aside for generations while we allowed the dumbest twits to get put in charge of things and they've run things like any idiotic spoiled child does.
Oh, sure, just like any schoolyard clique of bullies they've figured out how to rig and manipulate things so they can get away with their behavior, but it's all old hat stuff any cruel child is already well versed in by the time they're in 5th grade.
But they're not smart.
The politicians are puppets. They don't even read most of what they're voting on. The majority of them are probably completely owned by means of blackmail or bribery. A minority of the senate and house might be good, but they don't matter. You can outvote them.
Never have I ever once thought that who becomes president is going to interfere with my life more than now.
By the way, the US is already finished. It was good while it lasted.
Isn't Bill Gates buying all farmland anyways?
What does that matter. Seize the land.
Well yeah, obviously seize it from agents working for foreign powers.
Framing matters:
Let them try to take it from our cold dead hands. They would be an invading country.
They're so righteous that their violence is peace.
We're so evil that our peace is violence.
"Breaking the law worked, let's make it legal!"
BINGO!
It's legalized fraud. They've already convinced huge swaths of the nation that we've legalized murder, why stop there?
They made a sham of democracy back in 1965 when they decided to start importing their voter base from the third world. It's petty much been all over since then. We've just been waiting for it to die.
I will make it legal.
Amazing, they are putting into law almost every method for which UN Election Observers are told to watch for as a method of fraud in other countries they go and observe.
Let's vote online next! Just go to a web page and click "yes I verify that I'm a citizen"
4chan will win every election
Captcha will cover it!
Lol so you are telling me United States elections don't meet UN election standards?
We don't meet Mexican or Indian election standards, let alone First World countries.
Not just UN standards, the Us election meet no standards at all
Do you have a list in these? Would be very helpful for some idiots i know.
Wow, in the middle of an election crisis caused by exactly this!? States will oppose them, right? Starting with Texas?
-- The Courts
They won't oppose them "in the court". Certainly not the SCOTUS.
It'll be more of "you are now banned from entering the State, and all your bases are belong to us".
SCOTUS will no longer speak unless Schumer and Pelosi allow them to. The checks and balances are no more, because we don't have a Republic anymore.
Even if they do, that'll be the catalyst for the Dems to stack the courts until they get a ruling they like.
Latches.
Hey this is how we cheated, let's turn it into law... D. C. needs to be gutted.
Yes I would assume the AG and Governor of Texas will oppose this. They very quickly went against the deportation freeze.
So this will of course pass with the Democrats. It will be immediately challenged by several states. Mainly because the US Constitution gives election laws to State Legislation Bodies only. That is what the election clause in the US Constitution is about.
Then the SCOTUS once again will be put in a position to either.
Dismiss the Case saying they do not care to do their job... probably Civil War now since effectively gives states no rights in the Union.
Rule against the US Constitutions election clause... signaling the states must submit to what ever the federal government mandates.... civil war definitely
SCOTUS rules against the over reach of the federal government. Most likely no major internal conflict just a bunch of pissed of commies and butt hurt establishment authoritarians.
Which do you see as most likely????
SCOTUS: "No standing. Burn the constitution, what are you going to do about it? Nothing, so shut up."
3 would be the easiest, but conflict sound the most interesting. 3 would honestly just delay progress. Besides that, taking out commies is the American way.
I think most states would sue to stop this bill. Even some of the progressive states. This is just insanity. Probably just bait to cause conservatives to go off so they can ban guns.
Most likely is still 3. This is just another pandering bill by the Democrat led house full of their wishlist items to santa. I have lost faith in the SCOTUS since the steal but this would just be insulting to the SCOTUS if they ignore at this point.
The Elections Clause gives Congress the power to regulate federal elections, at least for Senators and Representatives.
The Electors Clause, which is only applicable to presidential elections, does give the state legislatures the power to also determine the manner of appointing electors. It's unclear whether it'd be legal to create two different election systems, where the one for appointing electors is fully under state legislature control, but it looks like it might be. Or you could just not have elections at all anymore for President in certain states, and just let the legislature pick them.
Okay was wrong on the federal congresses ability. There seems to be a slew of cases though that go back and forth on this states rights vs federal authority. Civil Rights acts added a bunch of changes to election process to stop racist practices. This bill is just a blanket removal of any integrity in the election. Which essentially removes the concept of free and fair elections.
Still looks like this goes to the 3 options. Just gives SCOTUS more background to go with option 2.
Will they have "standing?"
Survey says....!
If Texas doesn't reject it then everyone here of age needs to run against governor Abbott in the primary. There should be no way he gets re-elected after his face diaper mandate and turning a blind eye to stealing the country with this unconstitutional bill.
We now live in a Communist country.
Yeah, America's done.
America's not done. She's knocked down.
We just have to pick the lady back up :)
The form of government America was founded with is gone. We have no freedom and say over tyrannical rulers exciting us for tax money. We are slaves.
America is fucking dead
ring ring
1776 is calling...
Don't start that horseshit again. You had your chance.
To be fair, that original government died in 1865.
Well then why are you on this site?
You a shill or something?
Ehhh... not really. The fact is the individual risk does overwhelm the need to rebel. This is why it takes a centralized leader or an event to set off a preference cascade. This is the story of centralized civilizations oppressing the very farmers that feed them
For example, I'm pretty sure I could win the presidency next time. Hell, a shit ton of people could. Just claim to be Trump 2.0. Heck, being a dick like he was probably HELPS when done more seriously. I could do it. But would I want to? Hell no, you lose all anonymity, your life is no longer normal after that
It'll have to get bad before it gets worse. I just wish the rest of my earthy existence wouldn't be spent in third world piss and squalor. But I suppose that just gives me something to dedicate the rest of that life to fighting for.
"So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we must decide is what to do with the time that is given to us."
It won't if you secede now.
Nah.
You need to come to grips with reality. Nations fall. Happened countless times before, and it is happening again. You're only lying to yourself now.
Secession is the only way.
You secession mongers sure push this secession crap hard without much to show for it other than "WE'RE DOOMED."
Some people are so wedded to the concept of the USA that they were raised on that they refuse to accept the simple reality that this nation is not the same place it once was.
We have been fully and completely compromised at the Federal level, and its percolating down to the State level. We need to erect a firewall ASAP before the rot spreads even further. Secession is the only way to accomplish that, either hard (formal breaking of all ties with the United States) or soft (complete repudiation of Federal authority within a states borders).
There is already tons of precedent for soft secession in the form of "sanctuary policies" and nullification laws, so that's a really easy sell to a lot of people as a starting point and should be pushed for immediately. Without hard secession though we'll still have infiltrators. We need a complete purge of all the globalists and communists from within our ranks, and that's really only possible with a hard break.
Once we've gotten our houses in order, we can turn our eyes to retaking the Progressive States of America.
But by all means. Go. Get. Tuck your tails and flee.
Run and hide. American patriots will stand between you and the communists just like Trump did only there will be millions of us fighting for our homes this time.
Bye Felicia.
This lady may have stumbled
But she ain't never fell
And if the commies don't believe that
They can all go straight to hell
We're gonna put her feet back
On the path of righteousness and then
God bless America again
Cut off gangrene known as Western California and New York City. That'll help her live a lot longer.
Correct. 2016 won't happen again under their watch. They know how to WIN.
Funnily enough, they successfully managed to Paint themselves the good-willing principled underdogs, suffering at the hands of the ruthless power-seeking Republicans.
The RepubliCANT party is real piece of work. Both the parties are subject to big pharma and the miltary industrial complex. Not to mention the bankers yada yada. Revolting the lot of them.
The left fights to win.
The political right is a sack of pussies.
That's by design. Nothing but controlled opposition.
They could've voted yes on the repeal of section 230. But instead they were faggots.
But MUH optics!!
until the third wave of arkancided politicians. can't spend taxpayer money if they ded.
Yep, there it is.
Unconstitutional new requirement on becoming president.
They tried to get around this by saying that if they don't voluntarily submit tax returns, they will TAKE THEM BY FORCE.
Also note that Russia appears 9 times, China appears 0.
meanwhile, elections are supposed to be run by states. so how would this even work? lol
The constitution is just toilet paper to them so that doesn't matter in their minds.
We might want to make sure it's even still around and they haven't actually burned it at this point.
Where is Nicholas Cage when we need him?
Cage only stole the Declaration of Independence though
Sure but clearly he has the experience we need.
Kam-Kam and her buddies are probably using it to roll joints.
And if the judges refuse to hear cases, then their bullshit BECOMES the constitution.
This is a take over of the country. This is what this is. Forget states rights and the republic, this is the globalist america now not a union or a republic of individual states.
State elections. But since every 4 years they include the Presidential election, they've crept more Fed authority over elections in.
Well either state courts/legislatures dig deep for any sign of their balls and contest this bill in SCOTUS.
After which SCOTUS tells us to go fuck ourselves.
Then we either: a.) take to the streets and drive the commie filth off our shores or b.) roll over and take it
The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.
Weird. The anti-voter ID people said that states are the only people that get to decide how to do elections but most of these changes are the Fed dictating how the states can conduct their elections
Right. This is the mirror opposite of federal voting reform we want. It's on purpose.
They only adopt an argument for the purpose of advancing their mission to obtain absolute power. The moment that argument no longer serves that purpose, it is discarded. They'll happily flip to the exact opposite argument in the blink of an eye if circumstances change and the opposite argument is now more favorable.
They have no morals, they never argue in good faith, and they relish in being hypocrites. Rational arguments have absolutely no effect on them. Its like shining a flashlight at a black hole expecting to see what's inside.
And some of you keep saying 2022 is gonna be a landslide! Vote for your local representatives.
Vote? Why? It's rigged. You forget already?
Not in civilized states like TX and FL. Local elections are still valid.
Don't forget Oklahoma. We got called so fast for Trump it made all of Texas jealous.
What's it matter if Dems hold house, senate, congress, Scotus, and presidency?
They have the power now to fuck states up individually.
If every member of congress and every admin is the Patriot Party within a state, who is going to follow through with recognizing any of the fed laws deemed unconstitutional in the state? They will be ignored short of sending in an army to force their unjust laws, and at that point it's a hot war.
Try all you want. We're not willing to do what it actually takes to take our country back, we won't do it for individual states either.
They will come for our states with all the power they stole and nobody is gonna fight.
They're not willing to do it either. If states secede, they'll never go hot to preserve the corrupt country. They know the rank and file are from the secession states.
They got away with everything through soft power. Censorship. Sanctions (essentially), and propaganda. They will never go hot on Texas or any other American state if they secede. Americans don't have the will for a civil war. You think libtards are going to join the army and go fight and die for America? They hate this country. But Patriots will join the state secession army - with infrastructure and leadership - to defend their freedom, their homes, and their families.
This. These guys are not willing to fight. That's why secession is the answer. No none wants to go to jail for the rest of their life. But if we officially leave the union that will not be a threat anymore.
We did not jail every confederate solider after the war.
Liberals don't need to join the army. Leo's and military will simply follow their commanders.
How do you believe this shit while they literally protect Biden as he throws our country away one executive order at a time, even as he dumps them into garages with 1 bathroom?
"we're not willing"
Did you not read that?
Nobody is doing shit, that's why shit ain't gonna happen.
Look at the difference between the coronavirus lockdowns in red states versus blue states. Local still matters. But if this passes, it may be too late to correct.
Exactly. The time for secession is now.
Sorry we lost our country. It sucks. Shit happens. Cope and move on. Build a new nation for our children or we all die as slaves. Weak and alone.
Join or Die.
Even if rigged, the more people vote, the more obvious the fraud will be.
It wasn't obvious this time???
It was. Are you a Chinese spy, do you not understand the meaning of the English word "more"?
This guy is a shill^^^ guaranteed
Me? At least I don't have short term memory loss and already forgot we just let them massively rig an election.
Better a shill than an ignorant idiot with short term memory loss.
This should be made a sticky. I am offended, shocked, repulsed, dismayed...there must be a democratic senator or two who would see this as being a bit much.
The house will pass it in joyful celebration. Gotta believe the senate is too close for something like this to actually get to 50-50 and require a tie breaking vote.
JFC. THIS is their biggest priority item?
I have no idea why the fuck it's not. All I can suggest is you 'deport' the post and tell them this in the comments.
Apparently some sharpies on money is more important.
Seriously, this is as close as an abolishment of the Republic as we've ever seen. Why is this not red alert
This is essentially legalizing everything they just insisted did NOT happen during Fraudapalooza '20.
You need some serious re-educating.
Care to do it yourself friend?
I'll save my re-education for my time in the gulag.
Kek, I whooshed your joke, take updoot.
The Republic doesn't exist anymore. You need to understand that and come to terms with it. The Republic is DEAD. We live in the Age of Power now. You either have it or you don't. You either take it from someone or they take what they want from you.
We're past the point were we can save the Republic. We can only hope to resurrect it from this point on.
The Republic fell on the 6th. We're not just saying that for shits and giggles. It's over. We're not America anymore. I don't know what we are, but it's not a Constitutional Republic.
America died January 6th, 2021. The grand experiment failed.
Mods are asleep at the wheel.
Mods don't want to sticky "doom" posts, however important they may be
Stickied now
Perfect
Does no one here realize that insane bills like this are proposed all the time and go nowhere? The Dems would have to ban the filibuster in the Senate to ram this through. There are enough moderate Dems that will vote against this.
There is no sense getting outraged about this until it gets out of committee. Obviously, if they try and ram this through all hell will break lose.
Check the co-sponsors on the bill. See the name "Pelosi"?
Yes, crazy bills get submitted all the time. But, remember how Pelosi rammed Obamacare through? If Pelosi's name is on a bill, that's enough to take this deadly seriously.
This will pass, with applause from both sides. McConnell will make sure Schumer gets enough votes in the Senate.
They're already pushing polls showing 'overwhelming support', because they aren't telling anyone what this bill actually means.
If it happens at all, and especially if it happens with Republican support, even one of the fuckers, it is on. Manchin will never vote for this. We don’t know how far they are willing to go yet. That’s why I am not freaking out about this....yet.
Correct... i belive this same bill passed the house last congress, but never even sniffed the senate. The filibuster is the only thing holding the republic together and it is on life support. I hope they are passing all these crazy bills as a scare tactic... GOP pass this bill or we will end filibuster and ram this other stuff through.
Yeah. Lots of gamesmanship possible with the new power dynamic. Definitely a scare tactic
I guess I am dumb enough to think that.
When word of this hits the streets the pushback will be fierce. Moderate Democrats won’t support it because it isn’t a serious bill and is full of insane ideas.
How about we wait and see who was correct?
You’re absolutely correct. Unlike “Republicans”, Dems will not break rank and file because their party is crazy and those who break away will get absolutely skewered by the media thus killing their careers. If anything I could see 1 doing it just so it would be 50-50 and Kamala gets to “bravely” cast this “important vote shaping the future of voting in America”.
This was stickied for a couple hours. This should be this sites main focus at the moment. Not some stupid fucking memes.
The mod team is really low tier. Seems they let karma whore and Q-tards on there. Not sure what the vetting process is but it sucks.
Tie breaker would be Harris. Done deal.
Yes, it's their biggest priority. This is the biggest power grab I've ever seen, or heard of, in US history. This is the kind of things you see under tyrants when they're first placed in charge by coup or revolution. This puts Obamacare to shame.
BTW - the mandate will be back, too. Count on it.
We couldn't have avoided it even if Trump got in this time I take it. Once 2024 comes round, there's more immigration and they'd do it then.
Yep its already falling down the list. This bill is fucking outrageous
The 2A people didn't stand up already and they never will.
They never will. They talk big but no one wants to be the first.
It will end up being old based guys with no family who will probably go on lone wolf suicide actions that get the ball rolling,
Damn it, u/Orion101 , you tripped the Doomer Faggot alarm.
It won't be in one fell swoop. They will continue to chisel away at 2A like they have been for years -- slowly enough so as not to urge an uprising.
Yeah, but the confiscations have to begin eventually.
Oh don't worry, that legislation is being pushed through too.
People can and will take a lot of pain before they fight back. History has proven this over and over.
True. People never seem to get that they can avoid a lot of pain and suffering if they nut up sooner.
You'd think massively rigging an election with use of every court, democrats, Republicans, and multiple other countries including China wouldn't stand with an armed populace but here we are, talking and doing nothing. They don't need to ban guns when we don't have the balls to exercise the true intent of 2A
A lot of us thought Trump actually had a plan besides Rudy. We were waiting for him to either drop the hammer, or do an EBS and call all patriots to arms to save the republic.
And now that we know there's no plan, we still aren't doing shit. Waiting around for Q's made up plan is why we're fucked to begin with.
These people really hate us that bad, eh?
Just figuring that out? Seemed pretty obvious for the past 4 years. These demons are making it clear they will never allow another outsider to occupy our nation's highest offices.
Or Republican, or any other party that isn't DNC.
This is an invasion by hostile forces. They're stripping down what's left of the Republic.
Imagine how Russians felt when the communists won, or in China, or how Poles felt when Germany came across their borders. We're living that now, but it's being done by our neighbors. Willingly.
Oh they are fine with "Republicans", most of them are just controlled opposition to give the illusion to the masses that their vote still matters and that USA is not a Uniparty country.
They are not fucking around. This has been obvious since the 2016 slip up. The Dems don't play. The WIN.
It is the states that control elections. Also this would be just another item that accelerates balkanization. The Democratic Party is declaring war on Americans, and they are playing for keeps.
The Democrats know that because of the theft of the 2020 election that they must insure that they can keep stealing them. If they lose power there is going to be hell to pay for their crimes. And hell is in all likelihood, coming anyway.
I guess we know why all the national guard were there.
How can you complain about Trump and incitement when you have a bill entirely designed to unconstitutionally dismantle democracy.
What is it. Day 5?! Fuck.
It's only Day 3. :-(
Fuuuuuuck.
Yep, every tyrannical or totalitarian government shift and regime always starts by taking the military and squarely rounding themselves by it to shield themselves from the peasants they plan to screw for their ultimate pursuit of total control and power.
It can be referred to as "For the People Act of 2021"
You just know it's gonna be fucking awful.
Tbh I thought it read "Fuck the People Act of 2021"
Not an inaccurate title for the bill.
We need to beat them to the branding on this. The Non-citizen voter bill or something much more clever. Whatever it is we need to use it everywhere.
Like : H.R. 1 - The Voter Fraud Enablement Act
The bills that are given the prettiest names are always the most awful.
Hello Communist hellhole...
Hmm, weren't we just screamed at by the MSM and federal and state supreme courts saying "It's up to each state to decide how their elections are carried out"?
No, they said laws don't matter and only those willing to go there make the rules
Rules don’t apply to them, don’t apply logic. Arguments dont shame them nor do they care if you call them hypocrite.
The majority on here are larpers that would never actually do anything even as they watched the gestapo show up to drag them off. They talk big, but it always comes down to "peacefully! no bad optics! we can just vote this away!"
The majority are waiting for a leader. Nobody wants to stick their neck out first. Can you blame them?
You've hit the nail on the head. We need organization
Nonono obviously I'm going to organize with people who I only know as a username on an anonymous online forum! Obviously real militias organize out in the open online for all to see!
Could you make the honeypot any more obvious?
Oh I'm sorry I didn't realize the 2A community "doing" something meant to continually organize peaceful protests they've been doing for years.
I suppose whenever someone says armed Americans should "do something" they really meant to do something that doesn't require you to be armed.
How disingenuous can you be?
Get based people into governor positions who will organize a secession movement, and call militia into action if needed. There needs to be some legal and political authority organizing this.
That's not what people are talking about when they say "armed Americans need to do something" and you fucking know it.
You don't have to be armed to organize a political rally, you do have to be armed to do some glowie shit.
They see Dems as opposition. They are enemies.
Your right to self defense is god given and inalienable, the constitution just recognizes it.
They will nuclear this. Mark my fucking words.
You mean the "PATRIOT" act?
2012 NDAA
Any republican that votes for this, I would say primary them. But voting won't matter if this is passed.
If they pass this, traditional legal voting and primarying won't matter. It'll come down who can game the system the best. Like others are saying, we'll have to start playing dirty.
If this was a few weeks ago, I would have called you a glowie. Though I don't condone cheating, or playing dirty, etc. I do understand the sentiment though.
If you ain't cheat'n you ain't trying.
It will come down to who is left breathing.
This, folks. Its never about dominion. Its about the laws. Thats how they cheat.
This shit is absolutely terrifying. Honestly why can't anybody see this shit coming? Why are people so ignorant to this?
99% of the people don't even know this exists or what these words mean. They are slaves.
It's Dominion as well. It's also about keeping voter rolls dirty. And it's about installing criminal election officials. It's about several things that work together to produce really really high amounts of election fraud.
I think there's a good chance Dominion is nothing but a shitty voting machine company that makes machines that aren't very secure.
We won't know for sure until someone decent actually audits them to see if there's any programming that intentionally enables fraud.
The intent is somewhat verified in Eric Coomer's statements.
Statements not on video that are attested to by just one biased dude.
And the in-person sales pitches from Dominion that show electronic adjudication of basically any ballot no matter how it looks?
It was designed to appeal to those that would misuse it.
If you had no voting machines, every single ballot would be "adjudicated" by poll workers when it's counted. That's what adjudication is, a human being determining how to count a ballot.
If adjudication can be used to commit fraud, it means election officials and regulations are garbage, and they'd be garbage with or without Dominion. Which is kind of the point of this thread, voting machine shenanigans are a distraction from the fact that election integrity is all about laws and regulations. You can have banana republic elections with paper ballots, and secure elections with voting machines (as long as there's paper ballot backups + risk-limiting audits).
The original ballots that were electronically scanned in at Fulton County were erased after adjudication. Logs of users were erased. Part of the laws and regulations we have should be about only accepting machines that cannot be abused in this manner. We cannot allow for 'steal first, ask later' behavior from our officials because the machines can be abused.
Laws and regulations are written to draw the line between what we want and what we don't want in this country. There will always be a percentage of people that are garbage, who live right next to that line, just waiting for a chance to cross it if given the opportunity.
Yes, paper backups are good, but I'd rather prevent election fraud than try to sort it all out later because some of it will never fully be able to be sorted out.
It won’t pass. It probably won’t even pass the house.
The democrat controlled house? The democrats are drunk with power, i bet you it at least passes the house. We will see how the senate handles it. But i can see that passing too
I could see it passing the house just on Pelosi threats alone. But I don’t see it passing the senate. Manchin will vote against it for sure. I expect several Dem senators would vote against it in its current form as well simply because it is so crazy.
I don’t think the Dems will vote against it. Do you think there are Dem senators that want to be the reason the first major Dem bill pushed through Congress fails? If they do it will absolutely be the end f their careers because the left will make sure they’re primaried out and the state run media will make sure to skewer them.
It is about Dominion too. Cytl too ....they hold all the cards they need.
Sounds like a contest of "who has the best hacker?" now. Don't be surprised if the next dictator is an autistic 350 pound 17 year old.
They had a test run this past election now they want to officially upgrade it and legalize it. What is going on man they are just straight up no fucks given destroying the country and no elected gov officials are doing a damned thing? It makes no sense to me that you could even put up a bill like this. Its like calling 911 and proposing to kill people and asking to be exempt from legal action.
I used to always think there was an invisible line the left wouldn't cross for fear of Civil War. The last twelve months have taught me they don't care if they start a civil war.
You misunderstand. It’s not that they no longer care; it’s that they’ve learned they no longer have anything to fear. The American people are allowing themselves to be subjugated far more easily than the globalist ‘elite’ ever dreamed of.
I think they have this shit all mapped out at this point. It doesn't matter for Civil War because it will probably further their plans. Civil War will only work if we have Rep gov with military on both sides. They are already test run weeding out MAGA supporters in military. They could hypotheically send all MAGA loyal soldiers overseas to fight forever wars and prevent Maga supporting applicants to all military. We better really hope enough White Hats have control over the Military.
They will probably arm the useful idiots to attack everyone. At this point it will only be a war between civilians as they stand back let us kill eachother. Once we're weakened they will use it as a reason to take guns away (or just dry up ammunition supply) from the survivors from both sides and then that will be the end of it since no one can challenge them now. Full control over internet(Big Tech), food(Bill Gates farms), and energy (oil and China investment in Electric) they could just shut it all down until we all give in. Then they will use that "Secret force" they trying to create to hunt down MAGA folks to camps and shit. I mean there is no opposition from anyone with elected powers.
With bills like this I no longer have any doubt that anything and everything however crazy, is on the table. Basically if this bill passes then everything is officially possible and they have no intention of stopping whatsoever. I mean you have that Klaus Schwab premonition of food shortages and their readiness to provide protein food stubs a la SnowPiercer(movie) style.
"Their evil knows no bounds, and they will stop at nothing, they are diehard satanists."
Trump and White Hats HAVE to be planning something, there is noooo way they didn't know these people are this crazy and just let it all go like it will be worked out through the system. I would only believed that if they managed to fix media and voter id before Trump left office.
This is fucking horrifying and will end the United States as we know it. These people are evil and hate America. God help us.
The United States already ended, pede. We're watching a tyranny being built before us, at breakneck speed.
Predictable though. Did you expect the Dems to fuck around?
Nope.
Just showed my dad and he keeps telling me they won’t do any of this and everything will be fine. Even though democrats own BOTH houses, the White House, and the Supreme Court. As if it won’t pass immediately. He’s not gonna get it until crap hits the fan
They also own every phone, every screen, every site, every post, every article, and most public schools
I feel your pain.
Yuri bezmenov. They won't believe reality if they are demoralized. There is no saving them.
When will we know whether it passes or not?
"Oh, you want to secede? That's totally fine with us, and we will in no way exert every option to utterly destroy and crush you and everything you love to prevent it to make an example out of you and everyone who might ever try it again!"
--Not the feds
Feds are not going to do shit. With succession you get your own military bases, planes etc. You think they are going to nuke their own state?
Succession will be like Brexit. They will vote on it in Texas - it will take a couple of years but the leftist sheep will actually vote FOR IT. The establishment will be against it of course..
But the sheep - they "hate" - "rednecks" and "racists" anyway.. I think people have forgotten that this is REPUBLIC. States are simply countries that have centralized SOME of the responsibilities of government.
Look to Europe. Do you think Switzerland should join the EU? Would they? Hell no. Like minded people form cities, towns and then countries. A country divided - divides itself into smaller countries.
This is the natural order of things.
Secession is surrender. What are you hoping will come from secession? That after we give them the parts of America they already control they'll be appeased and stop?
I'm not the person you are replying to, but my answer to that would be:
Liberty or honorable death in battle.
We do that now, or we die later under the heels of the agents of the CCP.
Let me ask you directly, since you may have missed it in my first comment.
What do you think the Socialists are going to do once they solidify what they've already taken and what we've given them? Do you think they're going to stop?
You fight now, or you die later.
Was Brexit surrender? Why is it surrender to leave a union thats not working for its members?
Britain is a sovereign nation. They're getting control of their nation back.
The United States, however, is losing sovereignty and power. It's losing territory. Instead we're explicitly giving control of those territories over to the CCP and saying "Your tactics to seize our land has worked. Please do it to our new independent territories to also split them up."
It's showing to the world we weren't able to fight back against Socialism taking our nation apart.
The Brits were not sovereign - that's why the left. Do you even understand Brexit? EU told them they couldn't fucking FISH around their coast. They were no longer a nation of their own.
The way it is SUPPOSED to work is that the States are equivalent to nations - aka NATION states where we team up such that they can do commerce and defense together.
You don't seem to understand what America is supposed to be.. That's why you don't how succession works.
They left the EU without a deal because they said they couldn't fish in their own waters. Have you been paying attention?
I know how the United States works. But more importantly, I also underatand how people work. If we don't fight back NOW, and win HERE, then the exact same things will happen in the smaller nations born from secession as what happened to the United States as a whole. Unless you're going to tell me that Conservatives don't only fight when backed into a corner and Socialists can be appeased with surrendering ground. So unless you can stand there and tell me those two things are true, then we have a big fucking problem even after secession, don't we?
I don't believe in this retreat being a solution at all. It's kicking the can down the road hoping it will delay what's coming until someone else other than us have to deal with it.
GLOW HARDER FAGGOT THERE NOTHING WRONG WITH SECSSION
Its not legal. Fed has no rights to mandate State matters.
It's not legal? And who, pray tell, is going to give a solitary flying fuck about that in the court system? Do you not realize yet that there is no justice system? No legal system? We live in an authoritarian one-party dictatorship now. The Republic is no more. Adjust your thinking accordingly.
So many in Congress are simply held together by meds alone it seems. They ought to retire before they expire.
Under what rule of law? The Constitution? The document they wiped their collective asses with and tossed it in the corner?
Wake up, Pede. "Legal" does not mean what you think it does, anymore.
:D As Trump has done everything by law, so do I.
Calling SCOTUS, paging SCOTUS
I think the thing that really irks me the most is that Democrats brazenly do stuff like this to make their fraud easier, but then they simultaneously have the nerve to call a normal and completely legal recall effort against them a "coup." Practically every thing they do is designed to undermine the integrity of our government, and yet when they abuse their power they cry foul when people try to use the legal process to remedy the situation.
This is why they're sounding the alarm on "insurrection" right now. They're doing things so extreme and egregious that they'd be surprised if there wasn't an uprising. All the while they're unfailing in their hypocrisy after encouraging uprisings regularly under Trump.
I find the thought of Civil War horrifying, and yet it's starting to feel inevitable. And it's not going to be initiated by the right. The left, after having cheated their way to controlling all branches of government, will define dissenters as domestic terrorists and leave conservatives no choice but to fight back when the purge begins.
This tactic is called "they cry out as they strike you"
Holy shit
They want to go into the schools and get seniors to register to vote. And apparently they can't turn you away if you are 16 and want to register to vote. But that's ok because they need the extra names on the voter rolls whether they can vote or not.
Can't have more votes than voters again! That's too obvious.
The bill has automatic registration. Every high school will auto register all students
For the dem party.
They’ll have online voting parties at school and the groomers, err teachers, will make sure they know “You get to participate in this important event because of the brave Democratic Party.” What the fuck.
The Federal government has become the domestic terrorist.
Not a Federal government anymore. You have to stop thinking in those terms. It's a whole new world now, and you're the enemy of it. We all are.
I fully expect my vote for Trump to be used directly against me in the coming years.
They aren't domestic terrorists, they are just terrorists. The word terrorism is a word used to describe the "Reign of Terror" by the French government in the 1790's. So terrorism was originally used to define radical governments that attack the people. Radical governments like the one Dems are going to be running during this administration.
...this is just fucking evil at this point...oh my god