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Panzershrekt 11 points ago +11 / -0

Don't try to stop them.

Let them anger the military for the treatment of NG soldiers. Let them anger the feminists for destroying the progress of women. Let them anger Antifa for their censorship Let them anger the unions for killing jobs Let them anger BLM for not opening a dialogue Let them anger their own constituents over Covid

Let them anger every single group, including those they claim to represent, and do not stop them. It has already begun to wake some up, with many more just around the corner. Focus on ostracizing the GOPe.

Art of War, folks.

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CookMySock 2 points ago +2 / -0

This doesn't matter if we still rely on voting. We don't control the votes, they do. On top of that, the people have shown themselves to be easily fooled and weak. They will simply be fooled again.

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Panzershrekt 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm not saying this to get more votes. I'm saying this because 1776 had a ton of support, including from the French. ; )

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CookMySock 2 points ago +2 / -0

1776 had pretty limited support amongst colonists, actually. And the French didn't really do anything crazy until we had already fought several battles against the Brits. Extremism won us the day in 1776, ultimately, as it was the extremists who drew a line in the sand and backed it up with force.

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Panzershrekt 1 point ago +1 / -0

I would beg to differ.

The John Adams letter to James Lloyd in 1813 is often cited to back this opinion up, but he was writing about American attitudes towards the French Revolution, when Americans grappled with either supporting France or maintaining commercial ties with Britain.

Historian Thomas Fleming offers that there may have been 75,000 to 100,000 Loyalists in America during the Revolution and that 60,000 to 80,000 fled after the war. In a 1968 study, historian Paul H. Smith estimated that Loyalists comprised about 16% of America’s total population and a precise 19.8% of free citizens. And historian Robert Calhoon wrote that probably 15 to 20% of adult white males remained loyal to Britain, and that 40 to 45% of the free population, “at most no more than a bare majority” actively supported the Patriots. Paul H.Smith estimates that roughly only 19,000 loyalists actually fought.

Many would argue that the Stamp Act of 1765 was the turning point for many colonists. Bad legislation that many were opposed to. We may see something similar in today's times.

After that was the British decision to send an army from Halifax to occupy Boston in October, 1768. The Boston Massacre in 1770, the Tea Party in 1773, and the Intolerable Acts a year later. Often viewed as a loss of legitimacy for the Crown.

There was much debating amongst the founding fathers and other colonists before these times. Concerning American liberties prior to the war itself, the issue of Independence and the the war to win it, and finally, there was the question of establishing an American nation afterwards.

Only 1/3rd may have fought the war, but its ignorant to suggest that many more weren't in support, even if only quietly. The key was the slow build up of anti- Crown sentiment, and not going off half-cocked, until the Brits overplayed their hand.

They say History often repeats itself. Democrats need a loss of legitimacy, then they just need one horrible act, on top of a bunch of unpopular laws and bills, that a majority of Americans will find abhorrent. There will be some loyalists, just like back then, but as we saw in the end, they didn't matter.