It's funny being a conservative that doesn't follow the jesus thing. I found my own spiritual path. Christianity was de-fanged long ago and even before that it was de-fanged judaism. It seems to be the doctrine that has convinced peoples to open the gates to the invaders for thousands of years. Its the last faith before the empires crumble. I used to be much more appalled by christianity than I am now. At tihis point I think the simple people need their jesus security blanket. If a person is not able to find morality and purpose on their own with out it it is not much harm for them to be indoctrinated. But as they say, the devil is in the details. I think its funny that people I meet that are pagan/spiritual or even "satanist" (not pizza party clinton style, more like anti-christian inversion) are more grounded principled people than christians are. Kinda reminds me of moderate islamists, even though the word of islam is explicit in its instruction. I think its the whole scape goat idea that these kaballists believe in. Jesus is the ultimate scape goat. You can lie, cheat and steal all you like as long as you pin it on the ultimate scape goat avatar before you die.