The Republicans better get on board and support the Patriots then. What you're suggesting is EXACTLY why we are still stuck with the GOP. They run the party, there is no salvaging it.
This. There is no Republican Party. That’s a charade. Force them to expose themselves further by refusing to support them. That’s how you beat them. You don’t beat them by joining them. They are not Conservatives in the least bit, save during an election and only their rhetoric, never their actions.
Agreed. I keep trying to drive this home to people. The Dems and Republicans must be viewed as the Uniparty. They share the same goals - power and wealth. They just differ in their rhetoric depending on who their voter base is.
Supporting Republicans these days is effectively the same as those people that stuck around the DNC for Bernie. I wonder how they're feeling now... Let's not keep getting suckered into making the same mistake just to "beat the Democrats and RINO's."
You start by going to GOP events, getting active in the party. Then you yourself run or find someone you trust and back them to run in every single race in your local area. Focus on your town first and the local state legislators. Work up from there. Connect with others in your local area. Take this country back one town and county at a time.
Yeah, I heard Bongino's arguments also. I beg to disagree. Whatever. Maybe a better plan would be to create a coalition of States who create treaties together and pass legislation to curb government overspending and overreach. I'm open to any and all ideas at this point. I'm out here reading proposed legislation and suffering a massive migraine.
If they don't reform our voting system and go back to paper ballots, and stopping a presidential election made illegal, we won't ever win another election anyway. They will us their Dominion machines hooked up with the internet and with one finger can transfer thousands of votes from one candidate to another. Millions of Trump votes were switched to Biden, plus Trump ballots were tossed out, and China sent in fake ballots which poll workers marked and ballots were printed incorrectly so the machine would spit it out and poll workers could adjudicate the ballot. In English means switch the vote from Trump to Biden. How do we stop all of this, if not forget it voting won't do a thing.
You can try to become local deep state. Get local election jobs. Be ballot counters instead of poll watchers. Infiltrate local legislators (even if it’s as staff) and influence policy to overturn the machines. We do this IRL. It will be slow, but effective. The left had a point with the slow march in our institutions.
I don’t know if y’all have heard this yet, but the Democrats AND the Republicans literally carried out a fraudulent election.
Somehow, people think either party will do shit to help the people get truer representation now that they are in charge after literally cheating and Republicans accepted it.
What elections? There is no true path to reform from within. Idiots been trying this for 30 years. When are you going to give up on this failed path? Your losing either way.
You might as well lose on the path to building something new.
It's 1000x easier to primary RINOs and beat them, than it is to form a new party from scratch.
If you're starting a new party from scratch, you can get 40% of the vote, more than half the Republicans, and still lose a 3-way general election.
If you're primarying RINOs, you only need 50.1% of the Republican vote in the primary, if it's a Republican-majority district.
The Republicans better get on board and support the Patriots then. What you're suggesting is EXACTLY why we are still stuck with the GOP. They run the party, there is no salvaging it.
This. There is no Republican Party. That’s a charade. Force them to expose themselves further by refusing to support them. That’s how you beat them. You don’t beat them by joining them. They are not Conservatives in the least bit, save during an election and only their rhetoric, never their actions.
You do beat them by taking over the machinery. Oh yeah you do.
Agreed. I keep trying to drive this home to people. The Dems and Republicans must be viewed as the Uniparty. They share the same goals - power and wealth. They just differ in their rhetoric depending on who their voter base is.
Supporting Republicans these days is effectively the same as those people that stuck around the DNC for Bernie. I wonder how they're feeling now... Let's not keep getting suckered into making the same mistake just to "beat the Democrats and RINO's."
What if the whole party are RINOs? Time for a new party
They are all RINOs, save a hand full.
Maybe not Rand Paul. But I'm not sure anymore. Wondering what Ron thinks.
But how do you primary an entire party? Almost every senator and house Rep turned their backs on Trump.
You start by going to GOP events, getting active in the party. Then you yourself run or find someone you trust and back them to run in every single race in your local area. Focus on your town first and the local state legislators. Work up from there. Connect with others in your local area. Take this country back one town and county at a time.
Yeah, I heard Bongino's arguments also. I beg to disagree. Whatever. Maybe a better plan would be to create a coalition of States who create treaties together and pass legislation to curb government overspending and overreach. I'm open to any and all ideas at this point. I'm out here reading proposed legislation and suffering a massive migraine.
I feel you. I’ve a headache for the last year.
This is essentially what Col. Allen West said. We need a revolution and form a new union of states that BELIEVES IN FOLLOWING THE LAW
Nope fuck the Republican Party. It’s worth losing elections over to kick them to the curb
If they don't reform our voting system and go back to paper ballots, and stopping a presidential election made illegal, we won't ever win another election anyway. They will us their Dominion machines hooked up with the internet and with one finger can transfer thousands of votes from one candidate to another. Millions of Trump votes were switched to Biden, plus Trump ballots were tossed out, and China sent in fake ballots which poll workers marked and ballots were printed incorrectly so the machine would spit it out and poll workers could adjudicate the ballot. In English means switch the vote from Trump to Biden. How do we stop all of this, if not forget it voting won't do a thing.
You can try to become local deep state. Get local election jobs. Be ballot counters instead of poll watchers. Infiltrate local legislators (even if it’s as staff) and influence policy to overturn the machines. We do this IRL. It will be slow, but effective. The left had a point with the slow march in our institutions.
Or all of their newly minted citizens (former illegals) trump our votes.
Exactly. If it removes them from power, it has to be done.
If you lose elections, you won't be kicking anyone to the curb.
I don’t know if y’all have heard this yet, but the Democrats AND the Republicans literally carried out a fraudulent election.
Somehow, people think either party will do shit to help the people get truer representation now that they are in charge after literally cheating and Republicans accepted it.
Sign me up for the patriot party.
This. Insert brilliant comment about ignorance and repetition.
What elections? There is no true path to reform from within. Idiots been trying this for 30 years. When are you going to give up on this failed path? Your losing either way.
You might as well lose on the path to building something new.