This. Trump is quiet right now. Hes out of the spotlight. Proceeding with a trial put his smack dab in the middle of it, and allows his legal team to present evidence. They'd be giving him a platform. That's good for him, and bad for the swamp.
The reason doesn't matter honestly. Without the Chief Justice presiding, it's not an impeachment trial. It wouldn't matter which way the vote went, it would not have the force of law.
Also that it's unconstitutional 6 ways (not an exaggeration).
I actually wanted them to go forward with the impeachment, and delay Biden's nonsense, and show the American people how much of a farce this whole thing was.
It wouldn't surprise me if the democrats asked Roberts block it, so they could avoid embarrassing themselves.
It's part of the plan. Pelosi and Schumer know this, but proceed anyway so they can tell their base, "We tried." No way they want a trial where GEOTUS would get to present his case and red pill millions of normies.
Agreed. CNN hiding Trump's presser red pilled me... and I hated Trump for decades. Now I'm on board the Trump Train. I imagine others would be the same with this trial... and even the electoral debate.
They would be allowed, just as they were with Impeachment 1.0. We're not in full kangaroo court mode yet, but I'll bet that's something they're craving.
Please stop with "the plan." Every milestone to date with the plan has passed and the only thing that happens is "we got what we need now wait some more."
“So, this is an illegitimate procedure,” he said. “And even the chief justice of the Supreme Court, who's not a rabid Trump person, who's actually, if anything, sort of in the middle, he is now saying this is illegitimate because I’m not getting in the middle of this and I’m not coming over for this.”
From everything I have read, Roberts has expressed the opinion that he does not want to Preside over a second trial. Jonathan Turley has expressed the opinion (so has Alan Dershowitz) that the sole purpose of impeachment is to remove elected government officials from office. President Trump is no longer in office.
The Democrats are using impeachment as a political tool for the sole purpose of preventing Trump from running for office again. I hope his lawyers use this as part of his defense. I hope they go back to the Russia hoax where the intelligence community was weaponized to initially to distract from Hillary's email scandal and server and ultimately used to try to remove him via the Mueller report. When that did not work, they took a phone call Trump had with the head of the Ukraine (which should never have been made public) and used that to impeach Trump.
There is so much evidence of a personal vendetta and animus against this President by the Democrat party (including Nancy Pelosi ripping up Trump's speech that included his accomplishments).
its OVER. you got him OUT! stfu and be happy for ONCE. my fucking god. even when they WIN they still cant be happy if they dont ruin other people's lives
Paul said Roberts isn’t a “rabid Trump person”. Of course Roberts is compromised, we’ve known that for a decade. But think about what that says about how Rand Paul sees you if you’re a Trump supporter. “Rabid”, like an animal. Fuck this guy, too.
yep , if they go ahead with this then that would set a possible precedent for impeaching other presidents when they are private citizens............and we can't have that eh obummer?
Why? This is the perfect venue to shit all over their parade with election fraud evidence. If he is citing evidence then every charge laid at his feet evaporates. He isn't inciting, he isn't pressuring. He's doing his duty as chief executive to seek justice under the law.
Because I would not participate in a unconstitutional kangaroo court. By even acknowledging it you give it an ounce of credibility that it does not deserve.
It was all a farce to begin with. They knew they couldn't impeach trump after he left. It was used as a ploy to take focus off the Old Pedo in the oval office.
I’m actually sorta disappointed that there won’t be a trial, seeing Trump smack the shit out of just about everybody with mountains of evidence of them all being lying scumbags would have been nice.
The only reason he declines is to avoid all the evidence being presented by the Trump legal team.
This. Trump is quiet right now. Hes out of the spotlight. Proceeding with a trial put his smack dab in the middle of it, and allows his legal team to present evidence. They'd be giving him a platform. That's good for him, and bad for the swamp.
I bet he is waiting to see the outcome of the fake trial
Imagine Trump showing the videos of police letting people inside
Might as well also show incitement of insurrection by demonrats
And didn’t pelosi have emails coordinating?
The reason doesn't matter honestly. Without the Chief Justice presiding, it's not an impeachment trial. It wouldn't matter which way the vote went, it would not have the force of law.
Hawaiian Judge and Emmett Sullivan to rule on this in 3...2...1...
Also that it's unconstitutional 6 ways (not an exaggeration).
I actually wanted them to go forward with the impeachment, and delay Biden's nonsense, and show the American people how much of a farce this whole thing was.
It wouldn't surprise me if the democrats asked Roberts block it, so they could avoid embarrassing themselves.
Asked? Nah fam they told him to, cause if he doesn't do what they want they release the pics of him fucking kids.
I thought kid fucking is misdemeanor nowadays...
Exactamundo!!!
Laws don't matter anymore. We're in Clown World now.
Honk Honk my Pede!
Always have been.
Suddenly he cares about the constitution!! amazing
I guess he declined to hear the case because it lacked standing... oh the irony.
It's part of the plan. Pelosi and Schumer know this, but proceed anyway so they can tell their base, "We tried." No way they want a trial where GEOTUS would get to present his case and red pill millions of normies.
Agreed. CNN hiding Trump's presser red pilled me... and I hated Trump for decades. Now I'm on board the Trump Train. I imagine others would be the same with this trial... and even the electoral debate.
That was my first thought. Pelosi/Schumer/etc know this doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of sticking, and need a way out.
You seem to be confused: What makes you think that Trump's team would be allowed to present evidence??
They would be allowed, just as they were with Impeachment 1.0. We're not in full kangaroo court mode yet, but I'll bet that's something they're craving.
During Impeachment 1, the Senate was Republican controlled. The rules this time will be a la kangaroo!
They can present it but the media won't show that part to the normies
Please stop with "the plan." Every milestone to date with the plan has passed and the only thing that happens is "we got what we need now wait some more."
I think ManUp meant the Swamp's plan, not The Donald's.
Exactly! All I meant was Pelosi's and Schumer's plan for bogus impeachment.
Roberts needs 2 b fucking waterboarded
If there were ever a waste of the Congress's time, this would be it. They don't care though because orange man bad
From everything I have read, Roberts has expressed the opinion that he does not want to Preside over a second trial. Jonathan Turley has expressed the opinion (so has Alan Dershowitz) that the sole purpose of impeachment is to remove elected government officials from office. President Trump is no longer in office.
The Democrats are using impeachment as a political tool for the sole purpose of preventing Trump from running for office again. I hope his lawyers use this as part of his defense. I hope they go back to the Russia hoax where the intelligence community was weaponized to initially to distract from Hillary's email scandal and server and ultimately used to try to remove him via the Mueller report. When that did not work, they took a phone call Trump had with the head of the Ukraine (which should never have been made public) and used that to impeach Trump.
There is so much evidence of a personal vendetta and animus against this President by the Democrat party (including Nancy Pelosi ripping up Trump's speech that included his accomplishments).
its OVER. you got him OUT! stfu and be happy for ONCE. my fucking god. even when they WIN they still cant be happy if they dont ruin other people's lives
SCOTUS just doesn’t want to do shit anymore. They’re just a drain on the American tax payer like everything else in DC.
Paul said Roberts isn’t a “rabid Trump person”. Of course Roberts is compromised, we’ve known that for a decade. But think about what that says about how Rand Paul sees you if you’re a Trump supporter. “Rabid”, like an animal. Fuck this guy, too.
yep , if they go ahead with this then that would set a possible precedent for impeaching other presidents when they are private citizens............and we can't have that eh obummer?
So the SCOTUS turns down legitimate cases and sham cases?
Nowhere does it quote Roberts. It's hearsay, so stop with the clickbait titles please...
Trump should refuse to participate as well.
Why? This is the perfect venue to shit all over their parade with election fraud evidence. If he is citing evidence then every charge laid at his feet evaporates. He isn't inciting, he isn't pressuring. He's doing his duty as chief executive to seek justice under the law.
Because I would not participate in a unconstitutional kangaroo court. By even acknowledging it you give it an ounce of credibility that it does not deserve.
He should send his legal team but decline to appear personally.
i would do nothing - I would send a note saying
we do not recognize the constitutional authority of this proceeding and we will be ignoring any verdict - thank you
P.S. We won
lol roberts is a farce.
Of course it's not legit. So, he'll only vote when the whole trial is finished.
It was all a farce to begin with. They knew they couldn't impeach trump after he left. It was used as a ploy to take focus off the Old Pedo in the oval office.
Of course rat Romney would argue this.
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I’m actually sorta disappointed that there won’t be a trial, seeing Trump smack the shit out of just about everybody with mountains of evidence of them all being lying scumbags would have been nice.
The post title isn't correct. The article doesn't say there won't be a trial.
Doesn't even say that Roberts won't preside. Just the usual "people familiar with the thinking" rumor mill saying he might possibly chose not to.
Hell, the linked article even says Harris could end up presiding.
Johnny to participate or not...hes still a fuking pedophile moron asshole!!🤡🤡💩💩
So now we get Trump to run for congress in 2022, take Nancy's spot as speaker and start impeachment proceedings of Biden and Kamala.
Fortunately the supply of hopeium is inexhaustible