American pedes, you need to let go of this loser attitude of: How can a third party change anything and how are we challenging the republicans? And will it not make the Democrats more powerful?
The democrats are gonna steal any election no matter what.
Every new party is given no chance, but Trump could be the first to have actual leverage and pull it off.
The GOP is beyond saving. You would need to get into the wheats and call them out, one by one. No way this will happen anytime soon.
Look where your two party system has brought you, it actually is a One Party System
Start taking away their votes and start winning slowly. You will either force the GOP back into the right direction or they will even further move to the center left.
Which will make it easier for the people to vote for the Patriots.
It doesn’t, it challenges on Election day. But I mean the alternative is fake GOP candidates or the co-opting of real candidates or movements. Which has only constantly been happening.
I still think a third party is a bad idea.. It WILL fracture the Republicans and NEVER have enough weight to vote out Democrats with their illegals and fraud
My point is that Nigel Farage and the Brexit party is recent proof (within less than 100 years) that traditional third party thoughts are not the same in today’s technological world. Hell even Ross Perot could have likely won in today’s world. Social media has given a huge voice to third parties with sufficient following that hasn’t existed in our worlds history.
Trump is the Republican Party now. There are no ifs, ands, or buts about it. It’s the truth. If he can utilize social media well to get his message out, which is a stretch due to the complete and total censoring of him by these companies, then he has the backing to completely replace the Republican Party, plus he would be free to take on traditionally non-Republican views like de-scheduling marijuana, true criminal justice reform, etc.
I agree that fast and instant information can help reach people that are easily manipulated.. But when you own the voices and medium you can do it fast and stomp out reason
I think it works just like the Justice Democrats. Remember them. The original plan was not to have a third-party that competed against the democrats, but to have a party that scared the democrats into incorporating their beliefs as a part of main-party platform.
The strategy was not a horrible one and had a significant effect of the democrat party, but it ultimately died down due to a lack of funding. Trump has the support and funding to take the strategy all the way.
The goal is not to actually form a third party, it is to force the republican party to have to negotiate with us, so that they don't lose all their power. It is not to split the vote, but rather to scare them into line.
Do you really think the spineless republicans are willing to play that game. I imagine that at least 50% of them are not in the big cheat to win club. Why would they be, they'd be a loose end, easier to manipulate them into line.
He needs to be able to speak. But he has been silenced in the public square. They are a bunch of authoritarian douche bags 🤬
Didnt Gab back up all his Tweets and basically created a profile for him to take over? I dont know why he doesnt.
American pedes, you need to let go of this loser attitude of: How can a third party change anything and how are we challenging the republicans? And will it not make the Democrats more powerful?
Start taking away their votes and start winning slowly. You will either force the GOP back into the right direction or they will even further move to the center left.
Which will make it easier for the people to vote for the Patriots.
Maybe after the impeachment?
count me in. Rid the US of RINOS.
ummm how is a new party supposed to challenge republican primaries?
It doesn’t, it challenges on Election day. But I mean the alternative is fake GOP candidates or the co-opting of real candidates or movements. Which has only constantly been happening.
Legally how can you impeach a non-president? And if you can, what purpose would it serve?
And also, I dont think that is the reason he is creating that list to prevent impeachment.
I still think a third party is a bad idea.. It WILL fracture the Republicans and NEVER have enough weight to vote out Democrats with their illegals and fraud
Tell that to Nigel Farage. I think right now is the absolute perfect time to do it.
Edit: actually studied third parties in college.
ask Theodore Roosevelt how that worked out in 1912
I’m aware of the Progressive Party of 1912.
My point is that Nigel Farage and the Brexit party is recent proof (within less than 100 years) that traditional third party thoughts are not the same in today’s technological world. Hell even Ross Perot could have likely won in today’s world. Social media has given a huge voice to third parties with sufficient following that hasn’t existed in our worlds history.
Trump is the Republican Party now. There are no ifs, ands, or buts about it. It’s the truth. If he can utilize social media well to get his message out, which is a stretch due to the complete and total censoring of him by these companies, then he has the backing to completely replace the Republican Party, plus he would be free to take on traditionally non-Republican views like de-scheduling marijuana, true criminal justice reform, etc.
I agree that fast and instant information can help reach people that are easily manipulated.. But when you own the voices and medium you can do it fast and stomp out reason
I think it works just like the Justice Democrats. Remember them. The original plan was not to have a third-party that competed against the democrats, but to have a party that scared the democrats into incorporating their beliefs as a part of main-party platform.
The strategy was not a horrible one and had a significant effect of the democrat party, but it ultimately died down due to a lack of funding. Trump has the support and funding to take the strategy all the way.
ask Theodore Roosevelt how that worked out in 1912
The goal is not to actually form a third party, it is to force the republican party to have to negotiate with us, so that they don't lose all their power. It is not to split the vote, but rather to scare them into line.
I realize that.. But who's going to win that game of chicken?
Do you really think the spineless republicans are willing to play that game. I imagine that at least 50% of them are not in the big cheat to win club. Why would they be, they'd be a loose end, easier to manipulate them into line.
They are willing, how many have made careers of it?