With the notable exception of GOP leadership and a lot of politicians, the GOP already is the patriot party. Takeover is the path of least resistance. The RINOs will surrender. It’s what they do best!
I have. What is the source of the leadership’s power? Combination of big donors, and enough populist bona fides to justify those donations. We control the bona fides. Let’s use that power. Unless you think we should just accept bullshit.
Committe seats, without them a congressman is basicllay shouting into the void. Nothing he does goes anywhere, his bills are'nt considered.
Re-election funding. The GOP will actually promote and fund a primary challenge agaisnt congreessmen who dont toe the line. and if he wins his primary anyway, the GOP will arrange with the Democrats to vote for the GOP guy in the general/runoff
this happened in a runoff in misisspi daniels vs cochran and in alaska with lisa murkowski she lost the primary and just ran in the general anyway.
This kind of fuckery ensures that the good guys get ran out of DC, and the okay ones stupidly join the GOP to work from the inside, but they always get swalloed by the swamp. Witness every single Tea Party candidate.
Don’t disagree with anything you write about the current state of the party. Things have become more serious since the Tea Party, though, and I think a lot more people realize it. Maybe I’m too optimistic, but I think 74 million (probably plus) Americans can make a difference. We have to take the party over from the ground up. Take a lesson from how they co-opted the Tea Party and learn from it. What we can’t do is accept defeat and roll over. We can beat these assholes. Why should we not?
Oh this argument again. EVERY TIME.. Every time the GOP utterly and completly fails its base.. We get this argument. How has it worked for you "this taking over" of the repub party the last 20 years?
Thank you! It's been getting "taken over" for 20 years just like msm "doesn't have influence anymore" for 15 years yet created beliefs in so many people about Trump, biden, China virus, election fraud, etc.
I think the GOP is dead -- Its a Uniparty. You might be right and better to take the GOP back but it is really really corrupt. 3 people did not stab President Trump in the back in the Senate - voting in the fraudulent election results
(the House still has some decent republicans).
Ron Paul and Bernie Sanders have both been affiliated with a major and a minor party at different times in their political careers. Having elected officials identify with a new party isn't bad, but running third party candidates in a general election against a Dem and Rep is just gifting the seat to the Dems.
The GOP wouldn't get elected again anyways in a state where election fraud is enabled. Might as well try a new tactic now that the original tactics no longer work
A populist at the head of the Republican party, who had 90 plus levels of in party support, changed the Republicans up to the moment that the GOP saw the chance to get rid of him. The second he left they went right back to the party I hated growing up. If the leader of the party can't making any lasting change (in the party itself is not the voter base) how do I expect working from the bottom with no power will work?
We crawl back to the Republicans with the goal to primary them and put MAGA people in, do you know how that will end up? We would be treated like the progressives on the left. Lied too, over and over, for votes. Never put in any positions of power. Forced to give token unity speechs to the other half of the party we can't stand. Voting for our Biden.
I disagree. Trump and 75 million Americans took it over once already, and it was nothing but GOP backstabbing, leaking, and lying, having to be dragged along with anything that didn’t line their own pockets. They cared fuck all about us when it really mattered, and are happy now that they can start talking tough again and asking for money to “fight”. The GOP needs to die and become the new third party minority, and anyone in the party elite now needs to be banned from joining the new party, so they can’t contaminate it with their uniparty lies and corruption.
I think the GOP have had plenty of time and chances to fight back against the DemocRATS.
And with dtheir latest refusal to defend our vote, our constitution, and our president, I say to hell with the Republican Party.
It only took 4 years for the Republicans to kill the whig party and win the presidential election with Lincoln.
I say let the gop die they are too corrupt. We had what, maybe 6 out of 51 senators stand up to the fraud ? McConnell got his cuck scotus picks in who turned their backs on trump as he was getting stabbed in the back.
The house republicans seem more solid but too many like Mccarthy and others.
If we don't get rid of the gop or at least vote all the incumbents out, it won't matter from here on out. They're happy being part of the deep state
Newfags thinking they can take over the GOP like this is their first 4 years paying attention to politics.
This has been 'the plan' for decades now. It never works. Because politicians are liars, cowards, and corruptible.
The good man in politics is the exception, not the rule. Oh, and btw, most of the people here are too gullible to make this work, anyway, which is why it never works. Y'all get conned to easily, which is why you so often see someone being called based one week only to be called a traitor the next, and back and forth.
We have tried and failed to change the GOP for the last 40 years. It never works. The higher ups have their candidates by the balls - they own their fundraising, legal team, candidate websites, etc. If a candidate says or does something the GOP doesn't like, there goes their party support!
Tea party. Trump. When will conservatives learn the GOP will never change?
Before the election, Biden already had an army of 600 DNC Election lawyers ready to go. What did the RNC give Trump? A knife in the back.
Patriot Party is the only way. There is only a 19% congressional approval rating. We will crush them.
Kiddies born after 9/11 that thought they understood it all. They start having tantrums in the comments whenever people suggest that the sky isn’t falling and that people shouldn’t just cry. All I can say to those people is, you didn’t pay attention during the Obama years, it’s been like this for a long, long time. If you feel like all is lost now, you should have felt this in 2008
Can't overtake A.L.E.C. group. They are tied to too many large businesses and lobbyists who fund the GOP and their campaigns. They get Koch money, and money from Wall Street.
No fuck the GOP.
I wont vote for them again nor will many other pedes so consider it split. Now decide if tou want to lose with rinos or take a chance on fixing things.
Unless you can literally kick Mitt Romney and McConnel out of the party right now the GOP is DEADWEIGHT. It will hold us back and betray us again and again.
The RINO GOP are part of the uniparty, proven already. What is the point in trying to save it when more members are traitors than not. Who didnt vote to certify the election EC votes rather than even let the evidence be shown? And who voted to impeach Trump? There is like how many? 7 or so total out of how many? Its a lost cause. fuck off with that nonsense.
OP, what you said here is like finding out that your wife depleted your savings account, has been fucking your boss for 10 years and just recently got your fired because she secretly hates you, and then someone comes along and tells you to think of the children and also how awful the dating scene is right now before you file for a divorce. You're so focused on winning a shitty game and clinging onto a hope that was never there that you've lost your concern for doing what is right.
I will stick with the GOP, in a limited fashion, for one person, Trump, because he's the only one I've seen try to reform them and actually get anything remotely positive done.
maybe you are right, maybe you are wrong. i have always been unaffiliated and disinterested in most parties and their platforms. if a strong third party were to rise up and it reflected my interests, i wouldn’t mind joining. if Trump were to play a large role in it, that would seal the deal. let’s see how it goes before saying no outright.
Using Dan Bongino's talking point won't work here. President Trump has 95% approval in the GOP, he is the GOP, no % split to worry about. I love Bongino, but he is wrong in this instance.
Voting comes secondary to creating a party and movement that cares about America First. No point in pretending to vote or trying to fix the system if we just keep sending candidates that sell us wholesale to the Chinese. We need Pro American candidates, you aren't going to find them coming from the GOP machine.
They are now leftist, socialist, communist who sold their soul along with the GOP to China!
They did nearly thirty years ago. It wasn't more than a scant few years after the fall of the USSR that Clinton normalized economic relations with China.
The Democrats have always been the party of socialist traitors, longer than either of us have been alive.
We’re not going to split the GOP, we are going to kill it. RINOs are no different from democrats.
Agree. It’s not taking something over, it’s forcing those out who shouldn’t be here.
Out of power and influence and relevancy.
With the notable exception of GOP leadership and a lot of politicians, the GOP already is the patriot party. Takeover is the path of least resistance. The RINOs will surrender. It’s what they do best!
small problem, the leadership owns the party and will never let that happen.
Have you been paying attention the last 10 years?
Hell, have they not seen what the Republicans did in the last 4 years under Trump?
He literally had to drag them over the finishing line in 2016 and they fought him all the way.
Then they fought him for 4 years and blocked him from doing what he promised.
Then they stabbed him in the back and removed him from the Presidency and let him get impeached again.
Oh but the Democrats will take total control?? Boohoo.. they already fucking do.
Stop trying to vote yourselves out of this.
You tried voting. They stole it from you.
Open the cartridge box and prep your armory.
You aren't voting yourself out of this.
I have. What is the source of the leadership’s power? Combination of big donors, and enough populist bona fides to justify those donations. We control the bona fides. Let’s use that power. Unless you think we should just accept bullshit.
They control
Committe seats, without them a congressman is basicllay shouting into the void. Nothing he does goes anywhere, his bills are'nt considered.
Re-election funding. The GOP will actually promote and fund a primary challenge agaisnt congreessmen who dont toe the line. and if he wins his primary anyway, the GOP will arrange with the Democrats to vote for the GOP guy in the general/runoff
this happened in a runoff in misisspi daniels vs cochran and in alaska with lisa murkowski she lost the primary and just ran in the general anyway.
This kind of fuckery ensures that the good guys get ran out of DC, and the okay ones stupidly join the GOP to work from the inside, but they always get swalloed by the swamp. Witness every single Tea Party candidate.
Don’t disagree with anything you write about the current state of the party. Things have become more serious since the Tea Party, though, and I think a lot more people realize it. Maybe I’m too optimistic, but I think 74 million (probably plus) Americans can make a difference. We have to take the party over from the ground up. Take a lesson from how they co-opted the Tea Party and learn from it. What we can’t do is accept defeat and roll over. We can beat these assholes. Why should we not?
Oh this argument again. EVERY TIME.. Every time the GOP utterly and completly fails its base.. We get this argument. How has it worked for you "this taking over" of the repub party the last 20 years?
Let it die already.
Thank you! It's been getting "taken over" for 20 years just like msm "doesn't have influence anymore" for 15 years yet created beliefs in so many people about Trump, biden, China virus, election fraud, etc.
"hi, i still think votes matter" - you
see how dumb you sound?
He does sound dumb
I think the GOP is dead -- Its a Uniparty. You might be right and better to take the GOP back but it is really really corrupt. 3 people did not stab President Trump in the back in the Senate - voting in the fraudulent election results (the House still has some decent republicans).
And over 100 in the House supported him.
Have them change their party affiliation. I think that's a thing right?
Ron Paul and Bernie Sanders have both been affiliated with a major and a minor party at different times in their political careers. Having elected officials identify with a new party isn't bad, but running third party candidates in a general election against a Dem and Rep is just gifting the seat to the Dems.
Ah...I wasnt sure. Thanks for that.
It would take an awful lot of us to top both, but disgust with both parties is at an all time high and climbing.
We're not going to "split" it. 95% of us are leaving the 5% Rinos behind. Bye!
I’m sorry but you are naive if you really believe that
The GOP wouldn't get elected again anyways in a state where election fraud is enabled. Might as well try a new tactic now that the original tactics no longer work
Only way but Dominion voting machines gotta go #1 priority or voting does not matter
ALL voting machines that aren't open source
A populist at the head of the Republican party, who had 90 plus levels of in party support, changed the Republicans up to the moment that the GOP saw the chance to get rid of him. The second he left they went right back to the party I hated growing up. If the leader of the party can't making any lasting change (in the party itself is not the voter base) how do I expect working from the bottom with no power will work?
We crawl back to the Republicans with the goal to primary them and put MAGA people in, do you know how that will end up? We would be treated like the progressives on the left. Lied too, over and over, for votes. Never put in any positions of power. Forced to give token unity speechs to the other half of the party we can't stand. Voting for our Biden.
No thanks.
How are we going to primary them when they are happy with election fuckery?
And further more, how is a new party going to win during election fuckery?
Nah, shit starts local and county.
If we need to start from the bottom up, might as well start with another party.
I disagree. Trump and 75 million Americans took it over once already, and it was nothing but GOP backstabbing, leaking, and lying, having to be dragged along with anything that didn’t line their own pockets. They cared fuck all about us when it really mattered, and are happy now that they can start talking tough again and asking for money to “fight”. The GOP needs to die and become the new third party minority, and anyone in the party elite now needs to be banned from joining the new party, so they can’t contaminate it with their uniparty lies and corruption.
That was fucking clever. Nice work, Pede.
LOL I see what you did there
I think the GOP have had plenty of time and chances to fight back against the DemocRATS. And with dtheir latest refusal to defend our vote, our constitution, and our president, I say to hell with the Republican Party.
It only took 4 years for the Republicans to kill the whig party and win the presidential election with Lincoln.
I say let the gop die they are too corrupt. We had what, maybe 6 out of 51 senators stand up to the fraud ? McConnell got his cuck scotus picks in who turned their backs on trump as he was getting stabbed in the back.
The house republicans seem more solid but too many like Mccarthy and others.
If we don't get rid of the gop or at least vote all the incumbents out, it won't matter from here on out. They're happy being part of the deep state
The gop is the rino party there is nothing to split with them. Either we create a party that reflects us or we just keep electing rino's
Yawn.
Newfags thinking they can take over the GOP like this is their first 4 years paying attention to politics.
This has been 'the plan' for decades now. It never works. Because politicians are liars, cowards, and corruptible.
The good man in politics is the exception, not the rule. Oh, and btw, most of the people here are too gullible to make this work, anyway, which is why it never works. Y'all get conned to easily, which is why you so often see someone being called based one week only to be called a traitor the next, and back and forth.
When a house is condemned you don't deep clean it. You tear it down.
GOP is 100% dead.
We have tried and failed to change the GOP for the last 40 years. It never works. The higher ups have their candidates by the balls - they own their fundraising, legal team, candidate websites, etc. If a candidate says or does something the GOP doesn't like, there goes their party support!
Tea party. Trump. When will conservatives learn the GOP will never change?
Before the election, Biden already had an army of 600 DNC Election lawyers ready to go. What did the RNC give Trump? A knife in the back.
Patriot Party is the only way. There is only a 19% congressional approval rating. We will crush them.
Still looking for info on who created this.
Splitting the GOP? Who’d be left in their base if Trump forms a new party? Seriously, the organization would be completely hollowed out of support.
Kiddies born after 9/11 that thought they understood it all. They start having tantrums in the comments whenever people suggest that the sky isn’t falling and that people shouldn’t just cry. All I can say to those people is, you didn’t pay attention during the Obama years, it’s been like this for a long, long time. If you feel like all is lost now, you should have felt this in 2008
Take over? Lol
The Uniparty has made it clear it will stop at nothing to fuck you all over.
And you think they will let you vote and primary them out??
C'mon guys.
Stop being this delusional.
Can't overtake A.L.E.C. group. They are tied to too many large businesses and lobbyists who fund the GOP and their campaigns. They get Koch money, and money from Wall Street.
No fuck the GOP. I wont vote for them again nor will many other pedes so consider it split. Now decide if tou want to lose with rinos or take a chance on fixing things.
Gop = Dem it doesn't matter and America needs a viable alternative to the Uniparty
Unless you can literally kick Mitt Romney and McConnel out of the party right now the GOP is DEADWEIGHT. It will hold us back and betray us again and again.
Or you have an opportunity to give a home to the red pilled dema and freedom-loving GOp types....and the independents.
The GOP won't split, the 70% of Americans without a party will join.
The RINO GOP are part of the uniparty, proven already. What is the point in trying to save it when more members are traitors than not. Who didnt vote to certify the election EC votes rather than even let the evidence be shown? And who voted to impeach Trump? There is like how many? 7 or so total out of how many? Its a lost cause. fuck off with that nonsense.
Got any gin? ;)
agreed!
Clearly your vote doesn't matter. Faggot
No...we need to take over the democratic party
No.
Primary them, and if we lose, run someone in the general. We either get the nomination, or they get the boot.
There's no conservative party now. GOP gets the fucking axe.
OP, what you said here is like finding out that your wife depleted your savings account, has been fucking your boss for 10 years and just recently got your fired because she secretly hates you, and then someone comes along and tells you to think of the children and also how awful the dating scene is right now before you file for a divorce. You're so focused on winning a shitty game and clinging onto a hope that was never there that you've lost your concern for doing what is right.
I will stick with the GOP, in a limited fashion, for one person, Trump, because he's the only one I've seen try to reform them and actually get anything remotely positive done.
The party is AFU and a hive of careerist hacks at the top.
Fuck the rhetoric, "the dems will win". They have played that for the last 40+ years.
Fuck the gop tho. Im so over these rinos
GOP is already split. About 10 decent people and the rest are fucking traitors. GOP is done. Trump "lead" it for 4 years and look how that turned out.
maybe you are right, maybe you are wrong. i have always been unaffiliated and disinterested in most parties and their platforms. if a strong third party were to rise up and it reflected my interests, i wouldn’t mind joining. if Trump were to play a large role in it, that would seal the deal. let’s see how it goes before saying no outright.
They way you take over is by splitting and forcing them to come to you and be part of YOUR coalition that YOU control.
Using Dan Bongino's talking point won't work here. President Trump has 95% approval in the GOP, he is the GOP, no % split to worry about. I love Bongino, but he is wrong in this instance.
https://gab.com/mitchellvii/posts/105613429357534931
Voting comes secondary to creating a party and movement that cares about America First. No point in pretending to vote or trying to fix the system if we just keep sending candidates that sell us wholesale to the Chinese. We need Pro American candidates, you aren't going to find them coming from the GOP machine.
Voting won’t fucking matter. No party will win that isn’t chosen by the deep state. You don’t vote your way out of tyranny.
Nigel farage created a new party and fuckin wrecked their version of Congress by sweeping out the establishment hacks. We can do the same
No it does not split... both parties form a working coalition.
GOP shill
You're assuming that, following the inevitable war, that there would be such a thing as the Democrat party.
They did nearly thirty years ago. It wasn't more than a scant few years after the fall of the USSR that Clinton normalized economic relations with China.
The Democrats have always been the party of socialist traitors, longer than either of us have been alive.