That's actually pretty normal shit. Like, finding my wife's hair in a bowl of Pho that she just made from scratch is not emasculating at all, it's just a fact of life. I bitch about it and move on.
Cleaning her hair out've the shower because 'honey it's too gross when it's wet, you don't throw up like I would - can you clean it?' Is real shit. Typical marriage crap (or relationship after 5 years). I do it once, then force her to do it - cycle goes on.
My wife destroying the kitchen after a single meal? Normal - but she cleans it up because I'm the one buying her thousands of dollars worth of coffee mixers and makers n crap, blenders, kitchenaids and all kinds of other shit so, she knows.
Knowing when to say sorry is important, too - not because you need to actually be sorry, but because you're the man - you've gotta be the bigger person sometimes and just say sorry so she can even move on to actually discussing an issue fairly - women can be overly emotional creatures and it's up to us guys to be the rational ones and lead by example.
Being a man means bearing the load. It means having an iron stomach, trying to be a bread winner, owning up to mistakes even if they're not your own so that others can move on, and tolerance for a bit of slobbyness here and then. It means being decisive, having patience and having a firm control of your temper because hot damn, most women don't lol.
I mean I literally just bought my wife a 2500$ Nordic Trak and so the idea of 'you gunna' use that thing or use it a back rest?' Is real - but it's not emasculating - it's me coaching her. Aaaaaand some times reminding her that I just invested 2500 bucks into her health so I have an expectation of her (I will literally tell her on days she thinks of skipping to 'get your ass on that 2500 machine and use it, woman' and I push her. That's what good couples do. They coach each other)
The only reason this would be seen as emasculating is if you yourself are a bit unconfident in your own masculinity.
Let me tell you, brother. There's nothing more masculine than as a man, recieving a live birth of your daughter and getting your arms bloody and messy as you personally recieve the kid from the womb (we did natural birth). Being the one to cut the cord, to get the child's first breath, to be the first person she sees - I recieved my child, with my bare hands. My product, my domain, my future. I'm in control (or try to be)
Yeah, plenty of icky 'gina crap but eh... we are men. We get dirty and move on.
Some one's got to.
I do think the art work is a bit ... lol... why do I feel the need to think the artist is only 150lbs and a stick? XD they're probably not but still, the artwork itself is kind'a meh.
But anyways just saying - if you've been with some one for at least 15 years - most of this is actually rather relatable.
Knowing when to say sorry is important, too - not because you need to actually be sorry, but because you're the man - you've gotta be the bigger person sometimes and just say sorry so she can even move on to actually discussing an issue fairly - women can be overly emotional creatures and it's up to us guys to be the rational ones and lead by example.
Women will always win the argument because they combine the ability to hold a grudge with being irrational.... and the next thing you know your washing the dishes and apologizing for some shit you didn't do.
It's totally "normal" and I've seen it time and time again. Men (all of us) have allowed women to dictate the parameters of our lives, and most guys are not even aware of it.
That doesn't mean I'm advocating for retribution or anything, but I'm just wondering if you'd think it was "normal" if your wife ran out to help change the oil in your car or help shingle the roof?
Ya know, I would hate women like that too and I'm a woman. Rather, I would if I actually knew any. I kinda hate that anyone is putting those stereotypes out there to mock women in general. I personally don't know any women who correspond to those stereotypes which I think are the product of misogynistic male minds.
And a word to the wise: men who hate on women don't get laid so much. Or is it the other way around?!
It's propaganda that is a byproduct of our moral busy bodies trying to convince us that men and women should function in a certain way continually favors better outcomes for women at the expense of men. The best part is, they have women convinced that they are the victims in all of it, and the supple minded men are willing to go along just to get "laid."
I beg your pardon! Better outcomes for women? It's very unrealistic. My ex-husband never lifted a finger around the house. When my son and I struggled to bring in bags of groceries, he'd call from a prone position on the couch (where he'd worn a deep depression) "I'd help you but I'm not dressed!" Then as soon as the bags were in the kitchen, he'd jump up and start rooting around in them for what to shove in his mouth. I cooked every meal and cleaned up after every meal. I alone took care of our wonderful son. Ex couldn't be arsed to get off the couch even for our son. He'd call out the occasional joke at son's expense and then say "Aw, I'm just messing with you." That was the extent of his parenting. I had to deal with anything to do with school. I brought home twice the money he did while he HID money from me and bought more cocaine with it than I ever imagined. After I left his sorry ass, he sent me a very pathetic email reproduced here in part:
Trilby, [not my real name],
I'm not doing so good. I want you to know how sorry I am. My life is pretty empty. . . . I want to make sure that you know how much I loved you. And always will. You are my soul mate and there will never be anyone else that I can feel the same about. I messed up pretty bad and I regret it all so much. . . I miss you and [son] and our life. . . . I never learned about money so I can't manage that even if I had some. I know you didn't want to be, but you were the one who took care of me and I didn't appreciate one minute of it or do anything in return [emphasis added]. I've had a couple of years of reality now and I certainly wasn't living in it before.
It goes on. The point is, I did everything in that marriage while he lazed around and grew pot in the basement and kept enormous tanks of saltwater fish and petted our dog, who I came to refer to as "your girlfriend." It was a happy marriage a first, but, like so many men, once he settled in he expected me to take of him like his mother had to. Believe me when I say, I was not prancing around in a bikini set, getting mani-pedis every week, and making a mess in the kitchen for him to clean up. Maybe some vacuous bitches live like this, but probably not as many as imagined.
Lol, yes you should have your cigarette. (They're wonderfully American and they've suffered a bad wrap.)
I won't pretend to know your situation specifically, but I have a friend(s) in a similar situation. Until somewhat recently, She did all the work and he occupied the couch and would wait for her to do everything. (he also grew cannabis as a "job")
The thing is - I talked to him about it several times about doing something and his response was always "maybe" and half-hearted attempts to dream a solution into existence. I know he felt ashamed when I would come over sometimes, but it wasn't enough to turn it around and decide to get off his ass and tow the line for very long.
His wife, a functioning alcoholic since 14, seemed willing to martyr herself in this role of being the slave rather than actually force him to be a better man for their kid (they have two - one hers from a previous man, one theirs) sake. In a way, she seemed like she wanted to be in control of him, and it was kind of a weird co-dependency thing. Her drinking would get off the charts in the evenings and she would go from a sweet and personable woman, to an insane harpy ready to fight anyone for anything. I never stay around long enough to see it all play out, but I saw enough.
I talked to him about leaving her (I know that sounds backwards, but he wasn't drunk all the time) and he simply couldn't do it. Oddly, he still loved her.
Recently, They've booth taken to meth (I suspect) and it totally sucks. They're actually good people, but I can't go over there anymore and watch them destroy their lives. It's a fucked up version of Romeo and Juliette.
I have friend who works his ass off, cooks, cleans, ect... and his wife just nags his ass all day long. Don't get me wrong, sometimes she's right - but it's the damnedest thing I ever saw. He's miserable, and I try not to rub it in, but In a way it's not really either of their fault. As a society, we have created a culture that doesn't foster healthy relationships.
Good for you and your wife - I would hope more people figure it out too, but it seems like the deck is stacked against them.
I threw up in my mouth a little.
That's actually pretty normal shit. Like, finding my wife's hair in a bowl of Pho that she just made from scratch is not emasculating at all, it's just a fact of life. I bitch about it and move on.
Cleaning her hair out've the shower because 'honey it's too gross when it's wet, you don't throw up like I would - can you clean it?' Is real shit. Typical marriage crap (or relationship after 5 years). I do it once, then force her to do it - cycle goes on.
My wife destroying the kitchen after a single meal? Normal - but she cleans it up because I'm the one buying her thousands of dollars worth of coffee mixers and makers n crap, blenders, kitchenaids and all kinds of other shit so, she knows.
Knowing when to say sorry is important, too - not because you need to actually be sorry, but because you're the man - you've gotta be the bigger person sometimes and just say sorry so she can even move on to actually discussing an issue fairly - women can be overly emotional creatures and it's up to us guys to be the rational ones and lead by example.
Being a man means bearing the load. It means having an iron stomach, trying to be a bread winner, owning up to mistakes even if they're not your own so that others can move on, and tolerance for a bit of slobbyness here and then. It means being decisive, having patience and having a firm control of your temper because hot damn, most women don't lol.
I mean I literally just bought my wife a 2500$ Nordic Trak and so the idea of 'you gunna' use that thing or use it a back rest?' Is real - but it's not emasculating - it's me coaching her. Aaaaaand some times reminding her that I just invested 2500 bucks into her health so I have an expectation of her (I will literally tell her on days she thinks of skipping to 'get your ass on that 2500 machine and use it, woman' and I push her. That's what good couples do. They coach each other)
The only reason this would be seen as emasculating is if you yourself are a bit unconfident in your own masculinity.
Let me tell you, brother. There's nothing more masculine than as a man, recieving a live birth of your daughter and getting your arms bloody and messy as you personally recieve the kid from the womb (we did natural birth). Being the one to cut the cord, to get the child's first breath, to be the first person she sees - I recieved my child, with my bare hands. My product, my domain, my future. I'm in control (or try to be)
Yeah, plenty of icky 'gina crap but eh... we are men. We get dirty and move on.
Some one's got to.
I do think the art work is a bit ... lol... why do I feel the need to think the artist is only 150lbs and a stick? XD they're probably not but still, the artwork itself is kind'a meh.
But anyways just saying - if you've been with some one for at least 15 years - most of this is actually rather relatable.
Women will always win the argument because they combine the ability to hold a grudge with being irrational.... and the next thing you know your washing the dishes and apologizing for some shit you didn't do.
It's totally "normal" and I've seen it time and time again. Men (all of us) have allowed women to dictate the parameters of our lives, and most guys are not even aware of it.
That doesn't mean I'm advocating for retribution or anything, but I'm just wondering if you'd think it was "normal" if your wife ran out to help change the oil in your car or help shingle the roof?
I don't know why this thread is even here, because:
It's offensive toward a group of people (women); and
It has nothing to do with support of President Trump, MAGA, The Steal, a third party, the way forward, or anything remotely political.
But mainly 1,
Well, the fact you cant see it, is only furthering the point.
Ya know, I would hate women like that too and I'm a woman. Rather, I would if I actually knew any. I kinda hate that anyone is putting those stereotypes out there to mock women in general. I personally don't know any women who correspond to those stereotypes which I think are the product of misogynistic male minds.
And a word to the wise: men who hate on women don't get laid so much. Or is it the other way around?!
No offense!
It was written by a woman, so.....
Maybe a "womyn"? Dunno. Just saying. Written for money for male approval? I knew a male Ashley once. Whatev.
It's propaganda that is a byproduct of our moral busy bodies trying to convince us that men and women should function in a certain way continually favors better outcomes for women at the expense of men. The best part is, they have women convinced that they are the victims in all of it, and the supple minded men are willing to go along just to get "laid."
I beg your pardon! Better outcomes for women? It's very unrealistic. My ex-husband never lifted a finger around the house. When my son and I struggled to bring in bags of groceries, he'd call from a prone position on the couch (where he'd worn a deep depression) "I'd help you but I'm not dressed!" Then as soon as the bags were in the kitchen, he'd jump up and start rooting around in them for what to shove in his mouth. I cooked every meal and cleaned up after every meal. I alone took care of our wonderful son. Ex couldn't be arsed to get off the couch even for our son. He'd call out the occasional joke at son's expense and then say "Aw, I'm just messing with you." That was the extent of his parenting. I had to deal with anything to do with school. I brought home twice the money he did while he HID money from me and bought more cocaine with it than I ever imagined. After I left his sorry ass, he sent me a very pathetic email reproduced here in part:
It goes on. The point is, I did everything in that marriage while he lazed around and grew pot in the basement and kept enormous tanks of saltwater fish and petted our dog, who I came to refer to as "your girlfriend." It was a happy marriage a first, but, like so many men, once he settled in he expected me to take of him like his mother had to. Believe me when I say, I was not prancing around in a bikini set, getting mani-pedis every week, and making a mess in the kitchen for him to clean up. Maybe some vacuous bitches live like this, but probably not as many as imagined.
Now I need a cigarette!
Lol, yes you should have your cigarette. (They're wonderfully American and they've suffered a bad wrap.)
I won't pretend to know your situation specifically, but I have a friend(s) in a similar situation. Until somewhat recently, She did all the work and he occupied the couch and would wait for her to do everything. (he also grew cannabis as a "job")
The thing is - I talked to him about it several times about doing something and his response was always "maybe" and half-hearted attempts to dream a solution into existence. I know he felt ashamed when I would come over sometimes, but it wasn't enough to turn it around and decide to get off his ass and tow the line for very long.
His wife, a functioning alcoholic since 14, seemed willing to martyr herself in this role of being the slave rather than actually force him to be a better man for their kid (they have two - one hers from a previous man, one theirs) sake. In a way, she seemed like she wanted to be in control of him, and it was kind of a weird co-dependency thing. Her drinking would get off the charts in the evenings and she would go from a sweet and personable woman, to an insane harpy ready to fight anyone for anything. I never stay around long enough to see it all play out, but I saw enough.
I talked to him about leaving her (I know that sounds backwards, but he wasn't drunk all the time) and he simply couldn't do it. Oddly, he still loved her.
Recently, They've booth taken to meth (I suspect) and it totally sucks. They're actually good people, but I can't go over there anymore and watch them destroy their lives. It's a fucked up version of Romeo and Juliette.
I have friend who works his ass off, cooks, cleans, ect... and his wife just nags his ass all day long. Don't get me wrong, sometimes she's right - but it's the damnedest thing I ever saw. He's miserable, and I try not to rub it in, but In a way it's not really either of their fault. As a society, we have created a culture that doesn't foster healthy relationships.
Good for you and your wife - I would hope more people figure it out too, but it seems like the deck is stacked against them.