Trump 2024 is just a covert normalization of this fraudulent election
Stop it
We all know the election was stolen
Don't expect criminals to administer ANY fair elections, ever again. It will all be stolen
There is no need for you to vote any more
Seriously. Just do something else with your precious time on earth
Unless there is a Trump card yet to be played, The bad guys won
Don't you have kids? Fuck this doomer shit. It's an uphill battle, there is a lot of work to be done, but you don't just admit defeat and quit.
Explicitly telling the establishment they don’t even have to cheat again because we’re just gonna give it to them. So convinced we can’t win that we won’t even try. Just pathetic defeatism.
Anyone here that doesn't know what actually has to happen for anything to change doesn't understand the way the world works.
Look throughout history at civilizations that were in our place and you'll see what happens next.
It. Is. Inevitable. Now.
If I recall, quite a few of them started to assassinate politicians. Seems like a good next step to me.
What happens next is a MAGA party, right fucking now.
The only reason they were able to steal it was because of Republicans like raffensperger and Kemp that normalized and validated the steal. They made enough people go: "alright, if Republicans say that it wasn't a steal, then it probably wasn't a steal".
Remove the traitorous GOP elite from our midst and we can fight our way back to the America we love.
It's a difference between looking for a political solution or not. Find a way outside of politics or work hard to fix the system. Either way the conventional way of using arguments and convincing people to vote R won't work. New tactics are needed. Leaving politics altogether isn't defeatism but there needs to be a bit of unity in strategy. Government partially works due to consent of the people. In a sense government doesn't exist. Does God exist because there's a church? Well there's government buildings. Those are just buildings, papers and people. Their enforcement of ideas and policies come from guns. Otherwise who would pay taxes? It may still be possible to fix the most broken states elections now. Time is critical. Well if I type anymore I'll begin to repeat myself.
Why would you want to convince people to vote R? Rs are as bad as Ds. Two sides of the same coin.
That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying it's either fix the fraud or reject the system altogether. I lean towards reject altogether but this game of well we can wait until the midterms then presidency and then do this grass roots thing to get more voters out is dead. That's done. Rejecting the system and the only state that is acceptable is secession is the better path.
My focus was to say the op isn't defeatist.
Voting is clearly rigged in many ways, but if you dont vote then they dont even have to cheat. I dont know how to make voting fair again but the first step would be to do a complete and transparent audit of the past election. I dont see how anyone could oppose this and I think it would be for the best for both right and left. I think it might also be a good idea for the far left to work with us too because we both hate the establishment for different reasons amid all our differences and it seems like the establishment always turns out to be the winners.
To start fair Elections again, the left needs to be beat at their own game.
The voting reform bill currently proposed in Congress basically codifies Election fraud. If it's legal, stuff the ballot Box, ballot harvest. All of it.
Target a high profile politician (Pelosi, Schumer, McConnell) and concentrate in their district. When one of them loses they'll demand reform.
They will admit fraud is real but only conservatives do it and arrest you.
Not really. Crashing the system in order to rebuild is a logical response. It's also less violent when compared to an armed revolt.
There is 1 thing the establishment fears, only 1, they fear it so much they will use the FBI to jail you if you attempt it.
This isn't doomer, this is real. Lefties in power means they will win every election now. What they did with this one, they'll do to all the next. Civil war. Communication, plans, fight, get the word out, share with lefties our view.
This is my point.
I'm not actually dooming or saying defeat. I'm saying elections are stupid now
We have do SOMETHING ELSE
Exactly, I saw what you were saying. My mother believes this too.
My recommendation is to keep posting this here or anywhere you can, people don't seem to understand this.
I support some form of separation, whether it be peaceful secession, just picking up and leaving en masse by the millions and going somewhere else - whatever.
"Project Exodus."
They broke into your home, started using their things, fucking your kids, and you want peace so you're offering to give them the whole fucking home?
It's dumb to live in misery and oppression with people who hate your guts. It's dumb to fight them tooth and nail at the ballot box every time, and lose most of the time. It's dumb to sit here and watch abortion be the law of the land for decade after decade - LEGALIZED MURDER OF BABIES - and not be able to do a damn thing about it.
How's living with these evil crazies working out for you? If you like it, keep doing it. As for me - yes, I'm for separation. A country was never intended to be like this. You are supposed to disagree on things like the speed limit, or top tax rates, etc. Not on whether you are going to kill babies, flood the country with illegal aliens, send all your jobs overseas, cater to a hyper-minority of transgendered freaks, etc.
It is an uphill battle and I don't think any of us want to give up. But it doesn't HAVE to be fought by Trump. He'll be almost 80 in 2024.
He will provide direction and will no doubt stay in the political scene. Maybe he starts a 3rd party or social media platform for MAGA. But at some point he needs to pass the torch to the next generation.
It's not admitting defeat it's telling the retards that say "we will vote them out" won't work.
Why would you have kids in this country? So they can grow up and be good little leftists what will betray you? Because that's what you are going to get if you have children right now.
https://www.rt.com/usa/512032-buzzfeed-snitching-capitol-hill/
The future belongs to those who show up. You've given up, you need to go regroup, get some TRT or something, then come back here when you are ready to fight.
Fighting isn't trying to beat them when they cheat. Thats just losing.
Fighting is fighting. Fighting is cheating the cheaters. Fighting is dirty.
We showed up to vote and Trump won, by a lot.
Didn’t matter, was stolen.
Trying to vote is the low t feel good option bud
Trying to vote is a necessary, but not alone a sufficient, option for getting out of this mess.
Dooming all day on a board just to bring down others that are trying to do something isn't even low T, it's high E.
Fuck off doomer.
We have a lot more legislatures now. We have the base of the American pyramid and will work our way up. Even if the Democrats pass federal mandates that unconstitutionally dictate how states run their elections, as Mitch once said “You’ll regret this, and you may regret this a lot sooner than you think,” McConnell said on the Senate floor. As the fresh crop of rowdy GOP roll out its own cheating procedures.
'We' had legislatures when they cheated this time... IN THE CONTESTED STATES. But the cowardly republicunt legislatures didn't do anything.