BLUF: No, The Military will not be fixing the current shit show in DC.
Let me explain my first hand experience to dispel these preconceived notions that the military will right all the wrongs. I'll also explain why the majority really doesn't care about you, and why they will probably go ahead and just do what they're told.
Yes, I have first hand experience, and let me tell you, the military as a whole is mostly ran by "Yes Men". People who are told to do basically anything, and use no conscious while executing these commands. Realistically, we're suppose to refuse unlawful commands and illegal ones, but today's US Military is full of idiots who will do whatever they're told to do. Worst part about it, they're in positions of power, so they will take any shitty order and execute it, and if their subordinates do not carry it out, they will be targeted in many ways to get rid of them. So, that's you're first problem, most of the people in rank, just nod their head and do what they're told.
Why would they you say? Well, remember this. The entire time you went through this COVID shutdown shit show where the governors and other democrats destroyed your life, these pieces of shit, were infatuated with George Floyd to the extend that senior leadership in some of the branches even put out videos specific to the George Floyd incident. Then it comes with quick promises to target "racists". What this really means is, if you speak out against the status quo in uniform, you'll be branded a racist and instantly removed. Ontop of this, they're all paid, and haven't missed even one check. One we had delayed by 1 day, and they complained. This shows you the extend of what kind of blood thirst ticks we have in uniform now. As long as they are paid, they will do whatever they're told to do.
There is no holding people to standards anymore. It use to be shitting on America would be an instant out the door, but now it is praised to the extent I have higher levels of leadership spewing thier liberal rhetoric on the regular. The Keystone pipeline shutdown was a "win for Americans!" Most of these brain dead idiots are military kids, who spent their entire life sheltered, then joined, and still are sheltered from regular US Society. Simply put, 40 year old grow man has zero clue how Americans live, but trusts CNN tells him the truth and regurgitates it to the lower ranks on the regular. Shit like this should be illegal.
Lastly, where they source their talent from (recruitment) has been aimed at urban, ghetto, and poor areas in the US, because frankly, they have the most to gain, and typically less to hold them back from enlisting. This works great, especially if you want to shove socialist programs on them. To give you an example, during a WIC meeting for new mothers, they come in and ask "Who wants FREE money?" They jump for it. It's sickening. To give you an example of how deep this runs, DAS and BAH (housing allowances and Food sustenance) isn't taxible income, so the military technically is regarded as all poverty, so they can soak up all the welfare they want. Many do. Many of them make more than YOU. This isn't right, and it's a big problem. Basically the US Military has turned into a socialist training machine. Obama kicked out a lot of officers who didn't align with his ideology. This is the result of it.
No, the Military will NOT help you. Stop thinking of all of us as these brazen heroes who will come out of no where to stop this current insurrection, because quite frankly, it's not happening. They'll help it more than anything.
Stop Trusting "The Plan". It's bullshit, always has been. If you want change, the US population is going to have to fix it because the military simply won't. Some would defect probably, but most would gladly execute the order to shoot civilians they don't agree with. This is a warning not to be taken lightly. Stop thinking people are on your side because you support them.
I can confirm. Most people in the military are just there for the paycheck. For some reason everyone thinks of the military as american loving patriots who go off to battle to serve their country. Some are, but the overwhelming majority suck on the government teat as hard as they can and will go along with anything. A common discussion that people had when I was in was about how to game unemployment, wic and other benefits while going to college on the GI Bill after getting out. They didn't have the slightest concern for how much money was being spent on people like them gaming the system, they just saw it as free money they were entitled to.
its still like it man, and in many ways worse. It's sickening having ashitbag recite departmental values to a group, when you know they lack most of them.
You're not wrong, but that said, there's still enough patriots out there to make me believe that all is not lost... I have a very comfortable life at the moment working in cyber security, but I would not hesitate a second on going back to protect the ones I love... that includes all my fellow pedes here too! maybe it's Stockholm syndrome, but it is what it is...
We're still here trying to hold out, but its getting increasingly harder. I'd lean hard on veterans out of uniform that our Oaths held meaning to for support. The top brass are basically targeting people under the guise of new training concepts (Unconfirmed Bias training being one of the new ones).
Not stockholm, just knowing that what you did means something. Even if we got duped at some point, we joined to defend. WE, as in those in and out of uniform might have to set things in motion and take leadership positions to get people to organize and push back against this culture war china is waging on us.
You're right, most of us veterans out of uniform do give quite a few shits about upholding our Oaths unlike the brass swamp fucks... And every damn time I think about this, it brings out all the suppressed feelings from losing my brothers in shitholes like Afghan, so I do want to believe that their lives were not lost in vein... because if that belief is lost, and they were lost in vein, then my target quickly shifts onto those mfs who sent them there to die for nothing... But I'll be damned if I let anyone fuck with any of my fellow brothers and sisters ever again!
...and yes, it's time to take leadership and push back. I've started doing a few things on a local level.
EDIT: almost forgot to say this: ...and thanks for holding out! Really means a lot to know that there's fellow brothers and sisters like you!
Thanks brother. Do all you can do, link up with other vets, let's organize and push back against this. This is why Oathkeepers were targeted, this is why they want to label vets as mentally incapable to own a firearm, etc. They fear us, there for they target us.
Always brother! Never really looked into the Oathkeepers tbh, but just having quickly read what they say about them gives me already an idea that they are targeted by the commies just because they are true to their Oath to defend the supreme law of the land! It's disgusting how they treat all of us after all we've given...
That said, they have a reason to fear us, because they've seen what we've done to our foreign enemies, and they all know they're the domestic enemy. The only thing that they don't quite understand yet is that we don't even really need a firearm for it.
The guns are next. It'll be "common sense" reform just like the Bill Clinton Assault Weapons ban.
They did not comply with the law, we should not comply, this is where the line is drawn. Every time a group is disarmed, they meet their end after.
Coincidentally, remember, that the T4 program in Nazi Germany was a medical approach to eradicate people. People signed off as it being a "medical procedure". Remember this when they start talking about medical procedures for people they deem a problem. It is no different.
Yup, I see it clearly written on the wall, they've copied a lot from nazi germany, and people are so fking blind that it's beyond belief...
As for their gun laws... they can stick them up their asses, whilst I cite them the 2nd in morse code doing brrrrrrt...
Don't know what branch you served in, but the Marines weren't like that when I was in. I left in 2015.
its disgusting. It's an actual philosophy in the Navy to "rape your country, bc the navy will rape you".
Ya'll keep believing you lost then.
I'm gonna go back to where God Always Wins and people still have their heads on straight and don't panic at the first sign of things not going exactly as we want it.
Keep enjoying the information you're soaking in from the MSM, totally makes sense that you guys would start buying into their shit now. You may be Trump supporters, yet even after those four years, somehow you're still normies getting most of your information from the MSM even though you just watched them lie about literally everything for four years.
It's no wonder you all doom so easily.
Trump's not out, Biden won't remain president, people ARE waking up to this, and it will be the military used to arrest and try the traitors. We don't need every rank and file soldier, OP, just the ones that aren't leftarded and as you said, will follow their orders as they're told....you know those orders they'll so willingly follow aren't always for the bad guys, right? Good guys give orders too, and we have serious patriots at the top giving the orders. Keep your heads up, we got this everybody.
Ive spent well over a decade in to see how the left under Obama systematically changed the entire culture of the military. Yes, we have some serious issues, and its not a complete loss. I'm just stating fact, the military isnt 100% behind trump, and Id guess it's more of a 50/50 at this point.
They have ramped up a lot of the cancel culture recently, and with the George Floyd incident, they have introduced more training under the guise of "Unconfirmed Bias" which is basically everyone is racist, and the reading material was heavily slanted socialist ideology which demonized republicans directly in it.
Yes, we are in a major culture war, and theyre trying to reprogram people just like how the great leap forward happened under Mao in China.
Just no, no no. All of the people in the military who matter are 100% leftist. I am not denying that there are plenty of servicemen who support us but the top guys are all against us.
Where do you get that from?
All the top Brass in the branches, and the top enlisted have Facebook and other social media accounts. Go ahead and look them up and see the type of public stuff they post about. Here is the newly appointed CASF General Brown talking about George Floyd. (https://www.stripes.com/news/air-force/air-force-s-top-black-general-offers-emotional-take-on-racial-unrest-over-floyd-killing-1.632658)
Ontop of this, shortly after, the "Unconscious Bias" or "Unconfirmed Bias" (Depends which branch and program they're pushing) is basically you're all racist training where you better check your white guilt. Went through it, it was the biggest pile of bullshit.
Where do you get that top bass is pro Trump? What did they ever done for our movement?
Murderous socialist regime incoming.
I wouldn't put it past them. One of my superiors called the Jan6 incident the darkest day in US history. apparently pearl harbor amd 9/11 was nothing.
Useful idiots everywhere. The rhetoric lately is to target 'racists'. this is realistically, you try to paint someone as a racist to get rid of them by any dirty means.
Interesting! Makes sense! Logically, If Q people are claiming that the white hat military will never allow America to fall into Communism... Where were they the whole time the Deep State was gaining power through blackmail? You are correct that most military people are order followers.
Military will love new juicy wars that communists will & already brought.
Most military members won’t care one way or another. The worst part for many about deploying overseas isn’t so much the enemy, it’s your wife fucking around on you and selling everything you own in life.
spending all your extra pay on a back tattoo while Jody pounds it out like a jackhammer. Ive got some stories of wild shit Ive seen go down. theyre not all that bright.
The Chaplain will always tell you, a lot of PTSD is from cheating spouses.
just like we have none regular soldier have no power so it doesn't matter
Top Brass is in bed with the contractors. Look where they all get jobs at after retirement.
that's why Trump made the arms deal with Saudi Arabia and bragged about it.
he was trying to make a deal with pulling the troops back & selling arms but leftist utopian ideologes like tim pool saying ''oh it's horrible!!''....
elitist utopian know it all dumb cunt? leftist
lol. we've been selling arms to them for years. They acted like this was new. Difference is, Trump told them to stop killing eachother. We use to sell arms to all of them and sit back and they'd shoot the shit out of eachother and we'd profit.
well all the arrangements are to counter Iran really. the peace deals etc. common enemy
I don’t buy into the “trust the plan” stuff but I still hold some faith in it as a possibility, and I hope for it. I am not religious either but considering I have very little sway over what will happen, I might as well have SOMETHING to hope for.
And the military loves Trump.
Furthermore, we did win. That is an unequivocal fact. Cheaters are losers.
But wasn’t the military largely in favour of Trump? If so, it stands to reason they’d be sympathetic to his ideology. What say you?
This isnt entirely true. I think its more a 50/50. People join for a check, and to continue receiving that check. Sensitivity training, bias training, and reinforcement training of other socialist slanted stuff is the norm now. Yes, there are many in unifork that dont buy it, but trust me, Ive seen plenty of incidents where a leftist uses their position to brand someone racist for the smallest stuff to remove them.
MEO (Military Equal Opportunity) is well funded, and will help push this. So, moet ofnus have to be real selective in how we speak, because there is always someone around the corner willing to fuck us over and try to get us prosecuted under the UCMJ
sure, but they still do what their leadership tells them, and the leadership is corrupt
AFAIK there is probably majority Trump support among the grunts, the problem being leadership positions.
bingo.
Military = yes men
Yep. We are the sovereign, we fix the problem. It's blind faith in the military that got us were we are.
This should be stickied.
Of course not and anyone who thought they would never spent 15 seconds of their idiotic life in the REAL military. This is life so put down the TV remote and video game controller then suck it up and face reality. Sometimes I think most of these posts are coming out of the FBI intel unit at Quantico.
WTF IS GOING ON WITH THESR DOOMERS??
This is reality, this pede is no doomer. If we're going to win this culture war we need to pull our heads out of our asses sooner rather than later. No magical entity is coming to save us.
Maybe it’s an unpopular opinion, but I don’t want the military intervening.
Trump put a lot of faith in the generals, and they betrayed him. His anti-war stance was against their goals and they thwarted his withdrawal plans.
Look at Egypt. After the Arab Spring, Egypt “elected” a Muslim Brotherhood leader as President.
Took what, maybe two years before the military flat-out removes him from office and IIRC put him in a prison until he died. Installed one of their own to run the country and oh here is this new constitution for Egypt.
Do I want the politically correct top brass removing and installing presidents?
Noooooope.
First hand experience, this depicts most of the lower rank military: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIICzY0wsEg
Guys. The military is part of the Deep State. The Deep State is simply the Administrative State. The bureaucratic portion of Government, largely run by Professional Technocrats, and are unelected by the People. The military has the exact same structure as all the other governmental institutions you complain about, in terms of how they select talent.
Even better is how the upper echelon promotions work. They are beholden to politicians in power, especially in Congress.
On a side note on Q. Q's plans rely on Deep State actors acting to destroy the Deep State. Its so utterly contradictory that I don't even know where to begin. Its like asking Congress to vote themselves out of power. Can it be done? Sure. But it relies on so many external actors moving in unison, that I can't fathom how anyone thinks this would work.
yep. all O-7+ ranks are congressionally approved. E-9s as well. This is all your upper level.
as it goes down, thinfa change, but the people who set the tone, are at the top. Notice the military isnt shit on anymore by the dems with acusation of rape and such. their goal was achieved, thus they focus elsewhere. LEOs are the new target.
Agreed. Plus you can gut the military easily with another budget cut.
On a side note, i appreciate that you opened with a BLUF.
Attracts the exact attention to help support my statement.
This needed to be said. Q has just made people complacent. Someone was behind it and Trump participated in it with his Q hand gestures. It set things back 4 years if anything, now we are at the crossroads of our country surviving or not.
Don't get me wrong, the Q Conspiracy attracted a lot of attention. Probably more than we would of had without it. People see the truth now. The complacency is the problem. The Kraken is the American Public at large who got cheated. We need to organize and put a stop to this corruption by forcing them out of office. They'll call us domestic terrorists, insurrectionists, all sorts of shit, but remember, WE WE'RE CHEATED. They are the insurrectionists, they are committing acts of terrorism by conspiring with a hostile foreign government to overthrow our way of life.
People forget that Ben Franklin, John & Sam Adams, George Washington, and the rest were all "Terrorists" and "Insurrectionists" against the crown. Today we call them patriots.
What's your plan? Complain and despair?
My plan doesn't revolve around a fantasy world from 4chan. Maybe accepting reality would do you some good instead of thinking your invincible in this situation. this is uphill and we have a lot of counter culture to go against.
The problem is this community could fight this culture by bombarding with mails, calls, protest, boycotts, and so on, and maybe even slowly turning the culture war around, but it has become too unfocused to do so.
When it becomes unfocused, people start reaching out for ideas. Some look for solutions, some cling to Q as more of a feel good solution that all these problems.will go away. Im not a doomer, Im realistic, this is a conspiracy which is unproven and quite frankly, makes people complacent. I will give it credit, it wole people up to government being two clubs of shitty people using us as cattle.for.their advantage.
We can identify a few things for sure. We all know.the GOP basically made a pact with the dems to fuck us all over (Trump included). This means, he wasnt part of the club, so he had to go, and they pulled out every stop to do this. notice how the senate and house are just about even. coincidence? We need to exile the establishment fr.the GOP by getting increasingly vocal and adamant about having shitheads like McConnel and Dick Cheney's bitch daughter removed. These are political Dynasties forming that are at the top. get fucking rid of these leeches. If it takes a new party to do it in one swipe, so be it.
Election fraud doesnt go away. they have to hold the ballots for 2 years by law. Arizona is still fighting to see them. Support them and encourage it. Call the shit out of them. If Maricopa county still wont let them, stop sending fucking harshly worded letter. JAIL THEM. Big problem in government is not following through. Shit or get off the pot and do it. talk is cheap.
Trump put up with 5 years of bullshit, to the degree I think most would of folded in a few days on. People act like he abandoned the people. I see it the other way. Maybe we should start emailing and sending him some shitnto encourage him to step up again. it doesnt ever end.
Keep spreading truth. DS hate the truth. we discredit them, they lose trust, we win. They have to pay for them to push this shit. We do it for free, and there is more of us than them by far.
Lastly, I have an unpopular opinion. Jan 6th, we should of occupied til they all resigned. Every one of them. EVERY... ONE... OF... THEM...
Yes that got turned around real quick on the 6th. This site had their own version of Q, which was "three day muh civil war" that would sort everything back out all perfect. That fantasy got busted really quick and didn't get replaced with what you are saying - actual useful organized action.
Movement needs a Leader or Leaders. I would extend that to Veterans and just people willing to put it on the line to protect this Republic. We know the enemy, they're out in the open now. Most are dems, some are Republicans, we need to rid the party of the dead weight, and reform it quickly, while also pressuring our current officials to Audit those fucking votes. If it can be proven without a doubt through an audit it was all a lie, we have direct proof of his being illegitimate. Then we demand that hands are forced to correct this, but we don't stop there, we all go and make the stand. Communist regimes have seen their end just by a crowd that refused to quit. Maybe we got to get pepper sprayed, hit, or shot, but this is the price we must pay to remain free. People have gotten comfortable with having a good life in the US. We need to defend this before we lose it. People would do anything to come here for our version of poverty, because how the rest of the world is, is rather bleak.
This is one of the best things I've read on this site. It's gotten a lot more real over the past few years about what the future can hold and the one thing I see is that the organizing capacity is at least as important as the magazine capacity.
A month ago most here were sitting around saying we will just shoot our way out of problems. That got exposed really quickly as a bad plan.
Let them make the first move. If they decide trying to kill us is the way and shoot first, we'd have a similar situation as what happened in a few countries during the Arab Spring. Once the Government fired on civilians, they lost massive support. I suspect the DS knows this is a bad idea since they're already acting funny since they know their grasp on power is thin with everything they just did. Make no mistake, the frantic actions of DC indicates they're worried how to control the masses now that most of us see that it's been a fix for a while. Us knowing, is a direct threat of their hold on power. Do not forget that. Spreading truth is important. The more who know, the less they have to hold onto for support.
We both know that majority voted for Trump, and even the final fake tally is off. Think of how highit would of been had votes been counted as "1", votes weren't thrown out, destroyed, etc. Make no mistake, this is why they're scared.
I agree with you on that. We should have come more prepared on Jan 6. We should've come with first aid, food, water etc. We should have never given them that goddamn building back, I will regret that for the rest of my life.
National Guard isn't going to be there forever. Maybe we should demand that the Governors bring them home. Deployment in the US for long term is bullshit. Maybe it'd work in our advantage with the recent arrogance of Congress treating them like shit, as they see their real colors. However, as it stands, they're only there because the Governors allow it.
No plan then. Got it.