When Dominion Voting Systems falls for the bait and tries to sue Rudy Giuliani
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I know a lot of us normal, non-law people are excited about this for the same reason as stated in that tweet, but surely, if a bunch of regular people have thought of it, Dominion has, too. They’re not just going to go headfirst into a lawsuit and then be surprised when discovery happens. Right? I mean, I’d love for us to have a chance to lay it all out there—I just don’t think this is that chance. They’ll either have already covered it up, or know that our justice system is so corrupt, that it wouldn’t matter if a dead body weighted-down with dominion voting machines in the Allegheny surfaced during discovery. 🤷🏼♀️
Exactly.
If they are suing because they’ve had months to wipe the evidence and because they have powerful DNC 0bama money and law firms taking on brave patriots. One gentlemen patriot was a CEO of his own start up, I forget his name, he was forced to step down from his own company for exposing the fraud, then he was banned from Twitter, his last post on Parler was one that said he was being sued by Dominion. Big Tech kills your voice and then the Deep State kills your income. They sue you to crush and to silence you.
If anyone needed a crowdfund right now, it’s these brave patriots, who put it all on the line for us to expose the fraud. Now they’re cut off from society and no way of raising a defense fund.
Of course they have. Everyone here thinking this is some sort of slam-dunk to take down Dominion are the same people who would buy oceanfront property in Colorado.
Dominion is a multi-million dollar company. They're not going to dive headfirst into a defamation suit if they think it's going to hurt their bottom line.
The truth of the matter is that Dominion has a good case. Guilliani (and Powell, who was sued separately) made very serious claims. They did not have the evidence showing ballots actually being changed (and no folks, some guy doing a statistical analysis on Twitter is not the same as actual evidence of their claims). Even in discovery, this is dangerous.
What if Guilliani took his "evidence" and ask other experts to corroborate it, and they came back and said it's bullshit? That's something that absolutely could come out in discovery, and would then put a red mark right on him for pushing a dubious if not outright false claim.
I am not usually a betting man but I will say this - IF this gets close to trial, Guilliani and Powell will settle. The reason is very simple - IF they had the evidence showing this fraud (as they claimed...), where is it? Why wasn't it shown in court? The one case where they used the Dominion system as a point in the lawsuit, the court asked them to show them the evidence of votes being changed and they couldn't show it.
Counter argument to this would be: Why did Giuliani and Powell risk a lawsuit with Dominion KNOWING that a defamation case would eventually come to fruition?
Three of the most brilliant lawyers (the above + Wood) put their lives/careers on the line to fight for the truth. They had to expect this is all I'm saying...
I think knowing that SCOTUS was compromised and Alito/Thomas were the only Judges willing to look at the evidence was disheartening to Trump.
You can't do much when SCOTUS won't view the evidence.
Simple answer? Grift.
Powell raked in hundreds of thousands of dollars in donations for the "legal fund."
Guilliani reportedly wanted to charge Trump $20k/day for representation. Plus all of the earned media on OAN, Newsmax, etc .
Wood is still out there making crazy claims (like about Justice Roberts) that he has provided absolutely ZERO proof for. I'm not going to take his word on anything when he's calling Roberts an Epstein-friendly, child trafficking pedophile. You can't just make shit up and expect reasonable people to believe it without evidence.
Ultimately, I think it was grift, the lime-light, and the adoration of Trump. Even Powell got laughed out of the White House in the final weeks, with even Trump reportedly calling her fucking crazy.
Yet no lawsuits have been filed against Lin...until they are filed I'll believe his accusations.
He posted the emails from Pence/Ryan on their strategy for Trump. I believe he has evidence. The Roberts thing is tricky as pedophilia is hard to prove without getting yourself in trouble, right?
I don't know. These are three highly intelligent people who knew the consequences of their actions. It's hard for me to believe they'd destroy their lives without knowing the truth.
Just my 2 cents.
I'm not of the mindset to believe people making claims without evidence.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. And he has yet to provide it.
They did forensic analysis on a Michigan machine and DO have the evidence .
....but none of this will ever come out. It will all be sealed by the blackmailed/bribed judges.
What court case do you mean where they couldn't show it? All i heard was that no court wanted evidence to be presented
You heard correctly.
Every case was dismissed on procedural grounds; no evidence has ever been presented to a court.
No court had an evidentiary hearing
Every case dismissed on procedural grounds.
Even if discovery happens the courts will seal it and keep it from public view.
And good luck getting a fair judgement.
I imagine Dominion sued where they knew they would get a friendly bribed or blackmailed judge.
Well, do you think Rudy .... with his huge experience as Mayor of NYC and locking up the Big 5x has been sleeping these past few months on Dominion? Don't underestimate Mr. Mayor.
Don't tug on Supernan's cape....
I thought that too but I bet money that dominion filed suit and is making sure that the judge is corrupt and will no allow anything to occur that would expose the truth.
Not just that, they have definitely already changed the systems to not show any of trhe bs. its been long enough for them to cover their tracks.
This is the answer. Code is easy enough to change and the elections are over. Unless voting machines were seized in the polling places there's no guarantee that the code wasn't changed already.
Here’s a question, if they did change the code, isn’t there a way to see it was changed? I mean if all of them did a code change on the same day at the same time but only in the counties that are in question, and none of the other machines that would show intent.
I'm sure there are ways to change code without it leaving a trace... and I doubt anyone is keeping around a before and after snapshot to compare.
IF they wanted it to know themselves, yes. If they wanted to hide it from other people, no. There are some ways to detect if code was changed, but there are steps you can take to erase those too. Like investigating a murder, they could check for finger prints, DNA, security footage, etc, but if the murderer thought of those things they could pre-emptively counter them doing things like wearing gloves.
The only real hope would be If they were dumb enough to use third party tools or code which may have their own logs that could point to changes likely being made.
We will see
They’re manufacturing new machines right now that are completely clean. “See, your honor? Our machines are completely honest and safe!”
Exactly this. All the machines out in the field have been patched with clean software. They’ve had plenty of time to cover their tracks.
After reading Sidney Powell’s Michigan lawsuit currently in the Supreme Court docket, Dominion Voting System security measures are woefully inadequate. It's the Antrim CO. MI. forensic audit. Based on this alone I don't think Dominion has a case. Breakdown of forensic audit is second half of Supplemental brief that petitioner Timothy King filed.
Let's put ItalyGate aside until they produce some real data. Mike Lindell HAS tweeted an image of data (one page of many) that was captured and he's claiming it's proof of election fraud. This page shows ip addresses to/from Chyna. Interesting if true. Naturally Twitter took down the post but it was captured HERE [bottom of page].
I have to believe that Rudy, Sidney etc. know about this data because they all make reference to it in various press conferences. That data, wherever it came from, needs to be vetted if it hasn't been already.
If this data in fact turns out to be factual then it may be the first concrete evidence of election manipulation via overseas actors. This image of data is much more sophisticated than the Italian affidavit. Time will tell if it's the real deal. But it's certainly convinced a lot of important people that it is. Time will tell.
Exactly. A lot of supposed Trump "supporters" are here shilling for Dominion on this post. Interesting
I've read the Dominion specs. If they were a bank they'd be broke and out of business in less than a day.
Just fudging the settings - send ballots into the arbitration folder - wherein whole stacks can be 'adjudicated' by a person. If said person is not honest (and no poll watchers) that vote can be switched to anything you want.
Allied Security Operations Group Antrim Michigan Forensics Report
The judge isn't going to allow Rudy to enter any evidence.
OR
The Biden Administration will Classify the Evidence.
Another possibility, the Dominion name has has so much bad publicity that irrespective of facts one way or the other, they're probably too hot to handle for politicians being courted by other voting equipment vendors ?
Chasing after Giuliani and Powell may well be a sign that the company is in some pretty shit,
Why are we posting tweets from Kim.Fatass?
Seriously fuck that guy and anything he has to say. That fugly piece of shit hasn't been relevant in 15 years.
Do we still have trust in the system ? We have the Injustice League in power with all the super villains you would expect.
Looks like, if you put "Dominion Voting Systems" or "Rudy Giuliani" in the title of your post, the shill bots come out LUL
These images never show up for me anymore! What type of image or host is it?
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MyPillow Mike Lindell to the rescue! He gave millions of his own money to prove fraud. He can help Rudy.
Pure bullshit.
So that bullshit artist now thinks Dominion and their legal team missed the fact they would be exposed to discovery.
Has everyone forgotten how Dotcom exposed himself as being a liar and a fraud in 2016?
The problem is corrupt judges, of which there are thousands.
Cheer them up Giuliani!
Well now...
I don’t think is going to go the way you guys think it will. How about we check out the law suit and remember that the courts are not actually interested in discovering the truth or finding justice before celebrating.
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The doomerism comments here are cancerous.
I think they may be shill bots going off the keywords of "Dominion Voting Systems" and "Rudy Giuliani" in the title. If not, they are the biggest cucks of all time
Wow so we're still doing this "falls for the bait" thing? Really? Ok, I mean it's never actually happened the other 2,385 times but sure,why not.
I like how they want 1.3 billion dollars. I mean even in clown world if they win they will get nothing. He's not a billionaire.
If they were smart they would be laying low and letting people forget they exist.
If they win, they can bankrupt him.
how many sets of code do they have? I am sure they have the "safe" machines that they can turn in for inspection.
The NBC sludge will only report the nonsense of a suit, not likely the other side.
Why would anyone have any faith the legal system cares about justice? Its shown how corrupt it is.
They've had lots of time to wipe everything clean and rewrite all the code.
Obama appointed judges. That all I have to say about where this is going.
One of two things will happen: during discovery giuliani will prove there was fraud, or we will learn he had nothing and basically strung us along for 3 months. In the case of the latter, good he should be sued.
This is Dominion vs.
So how does the defendant in this case get Trump back the presidency in 2021?
Does the evidence presented in discovery get shown to the general public? Will it be settled outside of the courts?
If you think for one minute that Dominion would file this lawsuit intending to hand over evidence that implicates them in the biggest scandal in US history then you are a fool.
Anything and everything that Guiliani would request has already been altered, scrubbed, or protected. What will end up happening is that Rudy will get what he requests and it will show that everything was on the up and up, and that will be the final nail in the coffin of any contesting the 2020 election.
Unfortunately the left is always 2 steps ahead of the right. If Trump's team really had all the evidence they claimed that they had, then they wouldn't have to get sued in order to get that evidence. We have been outmaneuvered from the jump. I honestly think that is why Trump just gave up and went away. He never had a plan to fight. this, and he was calling everyone's bluff, when they didn't flinch he folded.
TRIAL OF THE CENTURY!
Not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure dominion isn't required to provide anything to Rudy. Rudy has to prove his claims with whatever info he already has.
I'm all for hopium when it is warranted but this is just not the time.
This organization is connected to the highest levels of the congressional swamp, was able to skate some 30 cases all by having the judges block the admission of any evidence.
Dominion would not have moved forward with this suite if they did not already have the guarantees they need to ensure that judges will block discovery.
I sincerely hope Rudy is prepared for a legal war. I also hope he has the sense to publish as much information as possible to get help from this community.
https://t.me/Mrdonald_trump/308
Rudy is about to lose or settle.
Surely the left will soon get tired of us beating their fists with our face.
GOOD
Rudy and Kraken Sidney filled our asses with so much Hopium its time they put up or stfu.
More of “trust the plan”
This really is GREAT news! Rudy doesn't even have to be right to win this case! All Rudy has to do is show evidence that would lead an average person to believe what he said about Dominion to be true. Finally he will release the evidence and it will be public!