Yeah, ok. But most of the people who have had the virus are fine, and many didn't even know it. But that doesn't fit the narrative either. Also, no one has died from hydroxychloroquine and it had helped most of the countries in the world control the virus. But the media and politicians actually led to it being withheld from many who would have benefited from it, for political reasons.
I take hcq. my work is essential and no one wears masks unless the higher you are around. The type of work we do eliminates the possibility for social distancing. Many of us travel often as well. I must be immune for some other reason.
There was a study about March last year where they tested 2015-2018 blood samples. About half had T cells that identified at least one of two proteins on covid. It was due to people having had the common cold from other corona viruses. So those people have at least some resistance to covid. T cells id viruses and then the body reacts. T cells are how your body stays immune to chicken pox and other things decades later, even though antibodies don't last that long. No one heard shout that study, because it implied half the people don't have a big concern.
I prefer to stick to the science. Is the vaccine causing deaths? If so, how do the deaths compare to getting the virus?
Unfortunately, the answer to both of those questions is hard to find because it is highly politicized on both side. The best we can infer from the information we have is what u/BasedMedicalDoctor posted: millions have been vaccinated and there are no widespread reports of death from the vaccine. There are a few incidents which have not been proven either way.
Nobody is arguing about the non-lethal side effects. We know they are serious. We don't have good data on deaths, but this post seems to try to be linking the vaccine with Hank Aaron's death.
This is Biden's baby now. This is the thing that will elevate the DNC to savior status. They won't tell you a damn thing that isn't sunshine and farts.
I feel like saying the vaccine killed him is exactly the same thing as every "covid" death of every person 80+ who died this last year. I believe if Trump was responsible for the deaths of 85 year old people because they supposedly had covid when they died then Biden and the vaccine are equally responsible for Larry King and Hank Aaron. There's little to no difference in my mind. Since last I checked everyone on the left calls Trump a murderer of hundreds of thousands I'll go ahead and say Larry and Hank are dead because of the vaccine.
Iconic healthy athlete dies 2 weeks after getting vaccinated. Family won’t say how he died. Granted the man was 86 years old, but he was fit and active. The man was trying to help his people and now the family won’t be honest.
Too bad Moderna, like all drug manufacturers, is covered by the indemnity clauses under federal law. Nobody is entitled to recover for any damages. What a hoot.
Given the choice I'd rather have a slow rollout to those with their whole lives ahead of them, so that on the chance there are delayed major side-effects we have a chance to catch them before they hit too many people with their whole lives ahead of them.
Will there be major side-effects? Maybe. Probably not. But it's plausible enough that it wouldn't surprise me.
Well, given that option, yes that would be my preference. I was just speaking in the context of harm reduction in that it does exists and people are already willingly taking it. I'm certainly never taking it myself, and I wouldn't encourage anyone else to either.
Hi I'm Hank Aaron and I encourage everyone to get this vaccine that can help zillions of people..oops, I'm dead!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WhAJMsQPVdY
The Hammer! Lifetime Braves and baseball fan here, he brought much excitement to the game I love. Fucking legend!
715!
Him and Larry King. Took the vaccine on the same day
And Larry King has been dead for years.
Joe Biden murdered this Great Man!
So basically, Fauci killed an unarmed black guy.
Source?
Google it. The information is out there. They are calling it natural causes but he just had the vaccine.
You mean "duckduck it", or "duckduckgo it" don't you?
Duck It! We'll do it live!
Yeah, ok. But most of the people who have had the virus are fine, and many didn't even know it. But that doesn't fit the narrative either. Also, no one has died from hydroxychloroquine and it had helped most of the countries in the world control the virus. But the media and politicians actually led to it being withheld from many who would have benefited from it, for political reasons.
I take hcq. my work is essential and no one wears masks unless the higher you are around. The type of work we do eliminates the possibility for social distancing. Many of us travel often as well. I must be immune for some other reason.
There was a study about March last year where they tested 2015-2018 blood samples. About half had T cells that identified at least one of two proteins on covid. It was due to people having had the common cold from other corona viruses. So those people have at least some resistance to covid. T cells id viruses and then the body reacts. T cells are how your body stays immune to chicken pox and other things decades later, even though antibodies don't last that long. No one heard shout that study, because it implied half the people don't have a big concern.
As the BMJ's Dr. Peter Doshi points out, a look at the data released thus far from Pfizer and Moderna point to vaccine efficacy rates of 19% and 29%. https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2021/01/04/peter-doshi-pfizer-and-modernas-95-effective-vaccines-we-need-more-details-and-the-raw-data/
This particular right wing belief is rather unfortunate
I prefer to stick to the science. Is the vaccine causing deaths? If so, how do the deaths compare to getting the virus?
Unfortunately, the answer to both of those questions is hard to find because it is highly politicized on both side. The best we can infer from the information we have is what u/BasedMedicalDoctor posted: millions have been vaccinated and there are no widespread reports of death from the vaccine. There are a few incidents which have not been proven either way.
https://patriots.win/p/11S0uVDRLk/x/c/4DuWMKsaJVb
u/oldnormalforever
Nobody is arguing about the non-lethal side effects. We know they are serious. We don't have good data on deaths, but this post seems to try to be linking the vaccine with Hank Aaron's death.
If there are vaccine related deaths, would you really expect us to be told about them?
At the very least, rumors of deaths would be more frequent.
Yes. You are just stupid.
This is Biden's baby now. This is the thing that will elevate the DNC to savior status. They won't tell you a damn thing that isn't sunshine and farts.
He died a week or so after getting the vaccine but he was also 86 years old so it could have been literally either reason (vaccine or old age)
This is the same story of everyone else who previously "died of covid" why would that narrative change now just because it's a vaccine?
Edit for autocorrect
A month before this whole scam is going to end! This whole covid thing pisses me off almost as much as the stolen election.
You still don't get it: the COVID scam will never end.
"Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program." — Milton Friedman
Oh wow, first Im hearing about this... got a baseball signed by him as a child.
Is it really a vaccine?
Wow!!! Hadn’t heard he passed. The vaccine did him in for sure. RIP!
I feel like saying the vaccine killed him is exactly the same thing as every "covid" death of every person 80+ who died this last year. I believe if Trump was responsible for the deaths of 85 year old people because they supposedly had covid when they died then Biden and the vaccine are equally responsible for Larry King and Hank Aaron. There's little to no difference in my mind. Since last I checked everyone on the left calls Trump a murderer of hundreds of thousands I'll go ahead and say Larry and Hank are dead because of the vaccine.
Iconic healthy athlete dies 2 weeks after getting vaccinated. Family won’t say how he died. Granted the man was 86 years old, but he was fit and active. The man was trying to help his people and now the family won’t be honest.
Ooooohooooh...he almost made it....geicooldmanfishing.jpeg
Too bad Moderna, like all drug manufacturers, is covered by the indemnity clauses under federal law. Nobody is entitled to recover for any damages. What a hoot.
Did the vaccine kill him? Maybe.
Probably not
Objectively, should we be using limited vaccines on 80+ year olds and making people with their lives ahead of them wait?
Same answer
Given the choice I'd rather have a slow rollout to those with their whole lives ahead of them, so that on the chance there are delayed major side-effects we have a chance to catch them before they hit too many people with their whole lives ahead of them.
Will there be major side-effects? Maybe. Probably not. But it's plausible enough that it wouldn't surprise me.
Or, OR... hear me out.. Maybe, just MAYBE... we don't create a DNA modifying abortion of a "vaccine" for a common fucking flu?
I know I'm taking crazy pills here...
Well, given that option, yes that would be my preference. I was just speaking in the context of harm reduction in that it does exists and people are already willingly taking it. I'm certainly never taking it myself, and I wouldn't encourage anyone else to either.
So gain of function bioweapon manufacturing leads to gain of function vaccines, and both are bad?