You're not going to win any people who don't believe in God by proselytizing. You might be righteous, but that doesn't mean others will see you as right.
Uh, it’s almost February. I think he’s staying. The only way I can see Trump coming back is if they fail to impeach him and Biden is so bad that the recount movement picks up steam from lobs OR Trump comes back in 2024. But both assume he’s not impeached.
From what I've read it seems like God didn't really tell people to kick back, but rather pursue righteous goals with everything you've got. Where He would step in is when people followed this in seemingly hopeless situations. Then they would miraculously win when it didn't appear to be possible. David and Goliath, red sea, etc...
Obviously, you have never read the old testament. Don't be fooled by modern day churches in America. They preach all peace love and harmony. That is only half of it. Spare the rod, spoil the children.
You're internet Edgelord belief is foolish and of course just plain wrong. Nothing carried out Slave Revolts and 1000 other rockin' war parties like relying on a higher power.
Possibly one of the dumbest effing beliefs to ever be uttered anywhere on the earth "religion was invented to control the masses". Its so opposite wrong of everything know about humans, civilization and all we experience today that it's astonishes me someone can say it.
'religion as a whole' is describing 88898231348842113333 different things in constant swings and turns but yes, some obscure branches think you can kick back and do nothing but pray and everything will work out. It's goofy.
These 'Christians' are the lazy ass ?Believers? who don't even follow advice of NT Bible, prayer and fasting, so they cannot be the 'Bible Thumpers' derogatorily character that you wantonly besmirch.
I remember thinking like you, calling Christians “Bible Thumpers”. Then I asked God “If you’re real then reveal yourself to me.” And he did in a big way.
It doesn't mean you give up. President Trump talked about God. If you truly believe in God, you want others to know. It's not about trying to force anything, but yet to spread the TRUTH.
Not only did our great President Donald J. Trump talk about God, he put God and Godly principles front and center on our national agenda for the first time in decades. What was the result? A huge acceleration of patriotism and MAGA. It was, in fact, SPECTACULAR to see the positive results that he created in a very short time.
He inspired us all to return to the founding principles of our nation which were based on freedom and the natural rights that come from God, not from any Government. God bless PDJT. I will love him forever.
You're right ... you don't give up. But often times when you hit people with Biblical terms and language, you're can get that glossed over look in the eyes because they could see someone coming at it like this as being preachy ... and most people don't like being preached to.
Right. I'm an employee of Cointelpro. Right. Or maybe it's an example of you can't entertain that someone else might have a better bead on this than you do. I'm done.
A lot of times people also think well you're not perfect, so who are you to tell me... We need to get over that mentality because none of us are perfect.
Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. Therefore whoever resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves.
and 1 Peter 2:13 reads:
Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human institution, whether to a king as the one in authority
Those can be interpreted to mean we should do nothing but submit to the fraud. But those also mean that Jesus' disciples were sinning when their earthly authorities didn't want them to preach. Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego would have been sinning by not bowing before the king's image. Our founding fathers would have founded a nation on sin by rebelling against the Crown.
But I like this quote from the patriot:
A shepherd must tend his flock...and at times...fight off the wolves
There is an exception where authority is no longer ordained or established by God. In our case, the election was rigged using fraudulent voting machines. The votes were manipulated. It is controlled by arbitrary numbers. The election is therefore fake. The authority is not established by God.
Romans 13 is about how to behave and if you run afoul of local customs, and receive punishment for such, that punishment is righteous because you were out of line. Example: if you go to a gay bar to stop dudes from hooking up because it is a sin, and all the gay guys beat you up for it, that is a godly punishment because you shouldn't have been there acting like an asshole. At least, that's what makes sense to me. Romans 13 is clearly not about blindly obeying every government command because Christianity was illegal for hundreds of years and yet, there were still Christians for all those years.
What is “ our way”? Jesus was the only perfect, sinless person to ever walk the earth. He stated that there isn’t one good person among us. We’re all sinners, therefore “no one comes to the Father except through me”. Meaning that to be saved by Jesus you must repent of your sins and ask Jesus into your heart. This can be very hard for some because they love their sin.
Why do you assume anyone is trying to "win you over"? People are simply stating their beliefs. We still have the right to believe whatever we like and talk about those beliefs freely...whether it offends you or not.
"Do not think that I came to bring peace on Earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter in law against her mother in law."
Mathew 10:34,35
To me, it means that being a follower of Christ is to welcome conflict and persecution for your beliefs. Being a Christian is about a lifelong battle against sin and temptation which can come from anything in your life. Commitment to God and following Christ does not always sit well with everyone in your life. Again, these are my beliefs so keep that in mind.
Yeah soon as I read that comment I was like great I'm on the side of religious zealots... I don't like the idea of having to pretend to be religious no more than I like the idea of having to pretend to support Biden.
If people need God, then use it as your pillar of strength. Just don't make the illusion that we are ALL on the side of God.
The elites are for the most part godless. They are on their way out, in case people haven't noticed. Truth and justice, law and order are on their way in. Personally, I cannot wait until they get here. Reading the posted list of "how to's" when it comes to spreading lies and cancelling the truth was exhausting. What a non-productive use of energy that will ultimately get us nowhere.
Yeah man, atheism has brought about great things such as communism, consumerism, porn, and every other degeneracy under the sun. Like bro keep that shit to yourself and let me enjoy my heckin wholesome tranny porn
People can be agnostic or atheist and still have good morals. Reading through the top few comments, religion is only being divisive in a time we need to be sticking together. Here we are debating religion instead of discussing ways to work together.
Your good morals come from a societal standard. When the standard is set by Christianity then even agnostic and atheists maintain a good image and try to be moral people.
The left, mostly atheist, resetting the rules and turning morality into a “moral Wild West” end up accepting some degenerate that dresses in a furrie suit and literally fucks his dog.
Why I am sperging out like an autist is because atheists say “we don’t need Christianity to be moral!!”
Have enough generations of that and folks who aren’t tied to being answerable to a higher power that wants you to maintain some standards and bam.. you’re in the moral Wild West.
So .. imagine if you will.. being a Christian and watching edgelords shit on you for years and just accepting it. But if someone shits on another religion, those same edgelords defend them.
Imagine.. those people start trending towards all these whacky ways of thinking, for example full term abortion..
Then imagine, some of these spastics realise how far off the deep end these idiots are going, finally wake up and then join the side that has the majority of Christians.
For us.. it’s like .. “yeah thanks.. fucking finally”
So the left is level 10 of “we don’t need Christianity to be good people”
“We don’t need Christianity” is level 1.
Don’t worry, I like level 1-3 atheists. Most of my friends are that. But when you apply your atheist morality, which will eventually lead to “omg stop kink shaming shitlord!” Just realise to us, you are the rot that has infected the left... and now you are here.
This is debatable, and one you’d lose. Our entire set of laws are built on Judeo-Christian values. Remove those values and the laws collapse in on themselves. Remove those values and it becomes easy to make arguments that all sorts of immoral shit is really moral. Just look at the degeneration of the left for an example.
May I remind you that this started with an a-religious fellow talking smack? Many of us are tired of having to take that bullshit from the Establishment.
The most moral and honest guy I’ve ever known was an agnostic. He had a love of country and the constitution and went out of his way to help others. While on the other hand the most dishonest, selfish bastards I’ve known was always preaching to others about their sins and shortcomings and inviting them to church.
What's the point of having morals while being an Atheist? The very fact that many atheists have morality should show them there is a God, or creator, because if we are just luck of the draw advanced animals no concept of morality should exist. Increased intelligence does not make someone more moral.
Every atheist should do whatever they can get away with to benefit themselves regardless of morality if they truly believe there is no God, otherwise they aren't living like true atheists because to have morals would be illogical.
If things go hot against the left, expect that number to go up. Whose side are you on? The people that want men to be men, who fight for their culture or do you want to be fighting for some 40yo unemployed tranny who can’t fight beside you because he needs to be on the back line educating your child on how to take hormones. Your wife isn’t educating your child, because she’s too busy wearing a pussy hat, spending her time stabbing you in the back and protesting against all the mean Christian men and the way they think.
Cry me a fucking river that Christians have defended what they believe in. Come, join us. If you want to be a level 1 atheist, so be it. Luckily we don’t wish to harm those that don’t want to chop our children’s penises off or silence us, so you always have room here to thrive.
But yeah... start becoming a fruitloop degenerate who aggressively pushes your craziness and it might be time for some righteous fury.
This comment is underrated. Frens, we are supposed to be on the same page not arguing about religion in a thread about the bullshit cointell , shareboo, etc pulls.
Being a zealot is not a bad thing, necessarily. I'm sure you'reon the side of people who are lots of things you don't subscribe to. This thing that unites us here is a good thing. That's the beautyof being Americans, we can disagree on everything, but be united by our common values and beliefs. Although I do not see a problem with believing in God with all your heart. Also, if you are on the side of truth you are by default on the same side as God, because He is truth. Don't worry, being near Christians is not going to hurt you, we think everyone should have free-will and if we're doing it right we aren't being judge-y or overbearing.
you dont have to be religious to understand how useful the language and what an uncomfortable fascade it would be to lefties to use to create a place without misinfo to communicate.
Look at your own reaction. You are so repelled. It could be used as a safety measure against misinfo/disinfo.
You're not going to win any people who don't believe in God by proselytizing. You might be righteous, but that doesn't mean others will see you as right.
Too bad for them!
My worst fear is there is no cosmic justice and they will get away with it.
Yeah, if we’re not careful, Biden will be in the whitehouse after Jan 20th...
Uh, it’s almost February. I think he’s staying. The only way I can see Trump coming back is if they fail to impeach him and Biden is so bad that the recount movement picks up steam from lobs OR Trump comes back in 2024. But both assume he’s not impeached.
White House Down?
From what I've read it seems like God didn't really tell people to kick back, but rather pursue righteous goals with everything you've got. Where He would step in is when people followed this in seemingly hopeless situations. Then they would miraculously win when it didn't appear to be possible. David and Goliath, red sea, etc...
Obviously, you have never read the old testament. Don't be fooled by modern day churches in America. They preach all peace love and harmony. That is only half of it. Spare the rod, spoil the children.
You're internet Edgelord belief is foolish and of course just plain wrong. Nothing carried out Slave Revolts and 1000 other rockin' war parties like relying on a higher power.
Possibly one of the dumbest effing beliefs to ever be uttered anywhere on the earth "religion was invented to control the masses". Its so opposite wrong of everything know about humans, civilization and all we experience today that it's astonishes me someone can say it.
'religion as a whole' is describing 88898231348842113333 different things in constant swings and turns but yes, some obscure branches think you can kick back and do nothing but pray and everything will work out. It's goofy.
Saw a painting on a wall tiny boat well away from shore awful storm black clouds nasty wind and horrible waves -the title:
Pray to God BUT row towards shore--
If that works so well, why do communists hate God? Someone came up with this origin story for you. You should look into it yourself.
The universe rewards positive work and punishes false gains.
The only positive work it rewards is BELIEF IN JESUS. NO OTHER WAY is acceptable by the 'universe'.
Then we will ensure that they don’t get away with it.
They ARE getting away with it!
If you're a Christian .... you just made my other point.
It's comments like this that smack heavily of ignorance.
These 'Christians' are the lazy ass ?Believers? who don't even follow advice of NT Bible, prayer and fasting, so they cannot be the 'Bible Thumpers' derogatorily character that you wantonly besmirch.
I remember thinking like you, calling Christians “Bible Thumpers”. Then I asked God “If you’re real then reveal yourself to me.” And he did in a big way.
Pray that we don’t feel the same way.
It doesn't mean you give up. President Trump talked about God. If you truly believe in God, you want others to know. It's not about trying to force anything, but yet to spread the TRUTH.
Not only did our great President Donald J. Trump talk about God, he put God and Godly principles front and center on our national agenda for the first time in decades. What was the result? A huge acceleration of patriotism and MAGA. It was, in fact, SPECTACULAR to see the positive results that he created in a very short time.
He inspired us all to return to the founding principles of our nation which were based on freedom and the natural rights that come from God, not from any Government. God bless PDJT. I will love him forever.
Wow, perfectly put. He is the Best President ever.
You're right ... you don't give up. But often times when you hit people with Biblical terms and language, you're can get that glossed over look in the eyes because they could see someone coming at it like this as being preachy ... and most people don't like being preached to.
This is an excellent example of topic dilution
Right. I'm an employee of Cointelpro. Right. Or maybe it's an example of you can't entertain that someone else might have a better bead on this than you do. I'm done.
The topic itself is forum sliding.
A lot of times people also think well you're not perfect, so who are you to tell me... We need to get over that mentality because none of us are perfect.
That's just too obvious. That convincing language is something you'd say to a child.
Ignore people who doesn't want to be preached. We were instructed by Jesus Christ to preach. He taught us how it is done.
There's "preaching" and then there's "preachy".
What until he rolls out “trust the plan”
I thought he meant trust God.
He who? Remember .... internetz. Can understand the implication like we're talking in a real room.
That.
True, but Jesus’ disciples didn’t stop spreading the truth just because a few naysayers may not believe I.
Good thing the early Christians had it so easy!
Romans 13:1-2 reads:
and 1 Peter 2:13 reads:
Those can be interpreted to mean we should do nothing but submit to the fraud. But those also mean that Jesus' disciples were sinning when their earthly authorities didn't want them to preach. Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego would have been sinning by not bowing before the king's image. Our founding fathers would have founded a nation on sin by rebelling against the Crown.
But I like this quote from the patriot:
Food for thought.
There is an exception where authority is no longer ordained or established by God. In our case, the election was rigged using fraudulent voting machines. The votes were manipulated. It is controlled by arbitrary numbers. The election is therefore fake. The authority is not established by God.
Romans 13 is about how to behave and if you run afoul of local customs, and receive punishment for such, that punishment is righteous because you were out of line. Example: if you go to a gay bar to stop dudes from hooking up because it is a sin, and all the gay guys beat you up for it, that is a godly punishment because you shouldn't have been there acting like an asshole. At least, that's what makes sense to me. Romans 13 is clearly not about blindly obeying every government command because Christianity was illegal for hundreds of years and yet, there were still Christians for all those years.
What is “ our way”? Jesus was the only perfect, sinless person to ever walk the earth. He stated that there isn’t one good person among us. We’re all sinners, therefore “no one comes to the Father except through me”. Meaning that to be saved by Jesus you must repent of your sins and ask Jesus into your heart. This can be very hard for some because they love their sin.
Why do you assume anyone is trying to "win you over"? People are simply stating their beliefs. We still have the right to believe whatever we like and talk about those beliefs freely...whether it offends you or not.
"Do not think that I came to bring peace on Earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter in law against her mother in law." Mathew 10:34,35
Can you explain what that passage means? Asking in all honesty because I don’t know.
To me, it means that being a follower of Christ is to welcome conflict and persecution for your beliefs. Being a Christian is about a lifelong battle against sin and temptation which can come from anything in your life. Commitment to God and following Christ does not always sit well with everyone in your life. Again, these are my beliefs so keep that in mind.
"I feel judged, so stop talking religions k?"
Sorry, no. Deal.
Then just fuck off, your judgement means nothing to anyone but yourself.
Then why are you so mad?
Being agnostic is better than atheist. Although there are no agnostics in fox holes. Why is that?
Yeah soon as I read that comment I was like great I'm on the side of religious zealots... I don't like the idea of having to pretend to be religious no more than I like the idea of having to pretend to support Biden.
If people need God, then use it as your pillar of strength. Just don't make the illusion that we are ALL on the side of God.
You don't have to believe in God, if you support the Constitution and people's freedoms, you're on our side.
That being said, the liberal elite in the United States and globally is filled with satanic pedophiles
The elites are for the most part godless. They are on their way out, in case people haven't noticed. Truth and justice, law and order are on their way in. Personally, I cannot wait until they get here. Reading the posted list of "how to's" when it comes to spreading lies and cancelling the truth was exhausting. What a non-productive use of energy that will ultimately get us nowhere.
how are they on the way out?
Yeah man, atheism has brought about great things such as communism, consumerism, porn, and every other degeneracy under the sun. Like bro keep that shit to yourself and let me enjoy my heckin wholesome tranny porn
People can be agnostic or atheist and still have good morals. Reading through the top few comments, religion is only being divisive in a time we need to be sticking together. Here we are debating religion instead of discussing ways to work together.
Your good morals come from a societal standard. When the standard is set by Christianity then even agnostic and atheists maintain a good image and try to be moral people.
The left, mostly atheist, resetting the rules and turning morality into a “moral Wild West” end up accepting some degenerate that dresses in a furrie suit and literally fucks his dog.
Why I am sperging out like an autist is because atheists say “we don’t need Christianity to be moral!!”
Have enough generations of that and folks who aren’t tied to being answerable to a higher power that wants you to maintain some standards and bam.. you’re in the moral Wild West.
So .. imagine if you will.. being a Christian and watching edgelords shit on you for years and just accepting it. But if someone shits on another religion, those same edgelords defend them.
Imagine.. those people start trending towards all these whacky ways of thinking, for example full term abortion..
Then imagine, some of these spastics realise how far off the deep end these idiots are going, finally wake up and then join the side that has the majority of Christians.
For us.. it’s like .. “yeah thanks.. fucking finally”
So the left is level 10 of “we don’t need Christianity to be good people”
“We don’t need Christianity” is level 1.
Don’t worry, I like level 1-3 atheists. Most of my friends are that. But when you apply your atheist morality, which will eventually lead to “omg stop kink shaming shitlord!” Just realise to us, you are the rot that has infected the left... and now you are here.
But yeah, level 1 atheists are alright.
This is debatable, and one you’d lose. Our entire set of laws are built on Judeo-Christian values. Remove those values and the laws collapse in on themselves. Remove those values and it becomes easy to make arguments that all sorts of immoral shit is really moral. Just look at the degeneration of the left for an example.
May I remind you that this started with an a-religious fellow talking smack? Many of us are tired of having to take that bullshit from the Establishment.
The most moral and honest guy I’ve ever known was an agnostic. He had a love of country and the constitution and went out of his way to help others. While on the other hand the most dishonest, selfish bastards I’ve known was always preaching to others about their sins and shortcomings and inviting them to church.
What's the point of having morals while being an Atheist? The very fact that many atheists have morality should show them there is a God, or creator, because if we are just luck of the draw advanced animals no concept of morality should exist. Increased intelligence does not make someone more moral.
Every atheist should do whatever they can get away with to benefit themselves regardless of morality if they truly believe there is no God, otherwise they aren't living like true atheists because to have morals would be illogical.
Divided we stand, love it.
Catholicism
Ya christians never caused any problems, Oh wait it has. I think the estimate death's from christians is up to 100 million.
If things go hot against the left, expect that number to go up. Whose side are you on? The people that want men to be men, who fight for their culture or do you want to be fighting for some 40yo unemployed tranny who can’t fight beside you because he needs to be on the back line educating your child on how to take hormones. Your wife isn’t educating your child, because she’s too busy wearing a pussy hat, spending her time stabbing you in the back and protesting against all the mean Christian men and the way they think.
Cry me a fucking river that Christians have defended what they believe in. Come, join us. If you want to be a level 1 atheist, so be it. Luckily we don’t wish to harm those that don’t want to chop our children’s penises off or silence us, so you always have room here to thrive.
But yeah... start becoming a fruitloop degenerate who aggressively pushes your craziness and it might be time for some righteous fury.
And Technique #3 goes into effect here.....
^ knew someone would be paying attention.
This comment is underrated. Frens, we are supposed to be on the same page not arguing about religion in a thread about the bullshit cointell , shareboo, etc pulls.
Being a zealot is not a bad thing, necessarily. I'm sure you'reon the side of people who are lots of things you don't subscribe to. This thing that unites us here is a good thing. That's the beautyof being Americans, we can disagree on everything, but be united by our common values and beliefs. Although I do not see a problem with believing in God with all your heart. Also, if you are on the side of truth you are by default on the same side as God, because He is truth. Don't worry, being near Christians is not going to hurt you, we think everyone should have free-will and if we're doing it right we aren't being judge-y or overbearing.
weird reaction.
you dont have to be religious to understand how useful the language and what an uncomfortable fascade it would be to lefties to use to create a place without misinfo to communicate.
Look at your own reaction. You are so repelled. It could be used as a safety measure against misinfo/disinfo.