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Garrettlst 16 points ago +17 / -1

True, but Jesus’ disciples didn’t stop spreading the truth just because a few naysayers may not believe I.

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booblitchutz 4 points ago +4 / -0

Good thing the early Christians had it so easy!

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KekistanPM -1 points ago +6 / -7

Romans 13:1-2 reads:

Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. Therefore whoever resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves.

and 1 Peter 2:13 reads:

Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human institution, whether to a king as the one in authority

Those can be interpreted to mean we should do nothing but submit to the fraud. But those also mean that Jesus' disciples were sinning when their earthly authorities didn't want them to preach. Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego would have been sinning by not bowing before the king's image. Our founding fathers would have founded a nation on sin by rebelling against the Crown.

But I like this quote from the patriot:

A shepherd must tend his flock...and at times...fight off the wolves

Food for thought.

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Dog_Sniff_Test 6 points ago +7 / -1

There is an exception where authority is no longer ordained or established by God. In our case, the election was rigged using fraudulent voting machines. The votes were manipulated. It is controlled by arbitrary numbers. The election is therefore fake. The authority is not established by God.

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Unzipped_Patriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

Romans 13 is about how to behave and if you run afoul of local customs, and receive punishment for such, that punishment is righteous because you were out of line. Example: if you go to a gay bar to stop dudes from hooking up because it is a sin, and all the gay guys beat you up for it, that is a godly punishment because you shouldn't have been there acting like an asshole. At least, that's what makes sense to me. Romans 13 is clearly not about blindly obeying every government command because Christianity was illegal for hundreds of years and yet, there were still Christians for all those years.