Absolutely! As much as I would hate it I would have accepted a legitimate win but it was not. If there was no other evidence the fact that they are working so hard against transparency should raise flags to everyone. If it was a legitimate win they would be flaunting all the evidence in our faces. Welcome to communist america!
Back when I thought elections were real, and Obama "won", I shook my head and said to myself, well, this doesn't seem good to me at all, but if this is what Americans want, I guess this is what we have to do. But now I know this is not even what Americans want. My normie friends want me to just shrug it off and move on, but I can't get past it.
This is what i have been trying to explain to the normies. I haven't gotten the usual REEEEEEEE .. so far.. i get more of a "well i can't argue with that" kind of reaction
Saying that Joe cheated is like saying a monkey planned a trip to space. Sure, the monkey went on the trip but he knew nothing about planning, building, or launching the rocket. They just strapped him in and away he went.
To be honest, if he had won fairly I would have been upset, too, just knowing that there were that many living, eligible voters that would choose globohomo operative China Joe over patriot and greatest ever President, Donald J. Trump.
I'm less angry at Biden for cheating when Trump knew they were going to cheat and did nothing to actually stop it from happening but "gather evidence"... that he never got to show in court.
Trump's main worry in all this seems to be his image. He didn't want to be called a dictator so he did nothing himself and hoped someone else would do something. How many insider reports did we get about advisors telling Trump not to do something because it would look bad and he not doing it?
I was there in the cold, listening to him on the 6th still talking about the fraud.. for over an hour! I told my friends like 20 mins into that speech that I was worried because it doesn't seem like Trump has a plan B at all.
That's just a shitty strategy. Now we have an actual dictator, with troops and fences and zero accountability.
What I wouldn't give for a real fighter like any of the fucking commie Democrats, that actually cared about this country and would do whatever it takes to save it.
I mean shit they are passing a law now to make it easier to cheat next time. Even though it seems pretty unconstitutional.. what difference does that make? Who is going to stand up?
I see exactly 2 ways forward from here. We give up or we go to war. Why are we even in this situation when 2 years ago Trump was making EO's about this shit?
Analyzing what happened, I think Trump was set up to fail by the GOP.
Biden had 600 election lawyers shipped across the country by the DNC PRIOR to the election. Trump had no such safeguards.
He assumed that he would win on November 3rd. When the steal came at 4 am, he was caught off guard just as we were, but he had no support from the GOP.
When it was clear that he was in for a fight, he was forced to put together his own legal team and go at it. I am willing to bet that his GOP advisors told him he was ready for whatever happened. I believe he GOP failed to prepare for this intentionally.
Trump had definitely prepared Executive Orders relating to all of this years ago, but when the rubber hit the road he was betrayed on all sides. None of the people that he had put into positions of power to actually carry out the Executive Orders were obeying his command. He was left out to dry by all of those he trusted. Including Pence.
Trump didn't give up until the Electoral College vote. He never conceded until it became clear to him that there was NO WAY to salvage the election.
I refuse to believe that we are at the point of a "war or inaction" decision. There is still a third way - a Tea Party-like Patriot Party could make a real difference on the Local and State level (where the vast majority of the fraud occurred). IF the errors can be corrected, that's where it would happen. We have to remember that they haven't compromised every election, just in some key areas.
My question to you - if you don't agree that there's a viable third option, and we both agree that inaction is not an option, how would you go about making real change? You don't have to answer that, but it's definitely something to think about.
Either way, The People are desperately looking for leadership right now. Whether that's through something like the Patriot Party, or something else entirely, is up to the events of the coming months. There is no room for inaction.
The GOP Rinos indeed are the problem. They ARE power hungry and they realize that the Dems have semi-permanent hands on the levers of power, and they WANT SOME. (See: Ga.'s Brian Kemp.) In a sense, they are smart to draft in the Dem's winds, meanwhile Patriotic presidents and Legislators are out in the wilderness.
DJT needs at some point to apologize or at least acknowledge that he came into Jan. 6 without a plan. Or maybe, the plan was that a bunch of Patriots assembling would get Pence to help out. Which was no plan.
This was 20 steps behind the arduous series of steps that would have been required to REALLY reverse the steal. (WIN in the Legislatures, NAIL DOWN the military, ROAR into the Georgia to get the Senate votes recounted, etc.) . And in fact, none of these steps were feasible -- the Deep State held onto every scrap of power from January 2017 to the present.
Would you rather America were legitimately dumb enough to give him 80 million votes?
Could be worse. As awful as it is you Americans can still turn things around from the bottom up using your states. Please do so. The North has already fallen.
Therefore he did not WIN
True
He isnt the President if he didnt win fairly. Sorry, but its true.
Absolutely! As much as I would hate it I would have accepted a legitimate win but it was not. If there was no other evidence the fact that they are working so hard against transparency should raise flags to everyone. If it was a legitimate win they would be flaunting all the evidence in our faces. Welcome to communist america!
I would have hated, but accepted, a legitimate win.
This blatant in-your-face fraud that we're not even allowed to talk about is unacceptable in any way shape or form.
Definitely!
Not just that he personally cheated but that a large multi-state network cheated for him.
The Most Extensive And Inclusive Voter Fraud Organization ...
And the GOP pitched in.
WHAT UPSETS ME IS NOT A DAMN CONGRESSMAN OR SENATOR WILL STAND UP AND DEMAND A BILL TO VERIFY EVERY FUCKIN STATES VOTE.
Back when I thought elections were real, and Obama "won", I shook my head and said to myself, well, this doesn't seem good to me at all, but if this is what Americans want, I guess this is what we have to do. But now I know this is not even what Americans want. My normie friends want me to just shrug it off and move on, but I can't get past it.
Exactly. The 2020 election was a complete sham.
If they didn't cheat they wouldn't be working so hard to fight against transparency. We are living in an occupied nation.
This is what i have been trying to explain to the normies. I haven't gotten the usual REEEEEEEE .. so far.. i get more of a "well i can't argue with that" kind of reaction
Saying that Joe cheated is like saying a monkey planned a trip to space. Sure, the monkey went on the trip but he knew nothing about planning, building, or launching the rocket. They just strapped him in and away he went.
Perfect!
To be honest, if he had won fairly I would have been upset, too, just knowing that there were that many living, eligible voters that would choose globohomo operative China Joe over patriot and greatest ever President, Donald J. Trump.
I'm less angry at Biden for cheating when Trump knew they were going to cheat and did nothing to actually stop it from happening but "gather evidence"... that he never got to show in court.
Trump's main worry in all this seems to be his image. He didn't want to be called a dictator so he did nothing himself and hoped someone else would do something. How many insider reports did we get about advisors telling Trump not to do something because it would look bad and he not doing it?
I was there in the cold, listening to him on the 6th still talking about the fraud.. for over an hour! I told my friends like 20 mins into that speech that I was worried because it doesn't seem like Trump has a plan B at all.
That's just a shitty strategy. Now we have an actual dictator, with troops and fences and zero accountability.
What I wouldn't give for a real fighter like any of the fucking commie Democrats, that actually cared about this country and would do whatever it takes to save it.
I mean shit they are passing a law now to make it easier to cheat next time. Even though it seems pretty unconstitutional.. what difference does that make? Who is going to stand up?
I see exactly 2 ways forward from here. We give up or we go to war. Why are we even in this situation when 2 years ago Trump was making EO's about this shit?
Analyzing what happened, I think Trump was set up to fail by the GOP.
Biden had 600 election lawyers shipped across the country by the DNC PRIOR to the election. Trump had no such safeguards.
He assumed that he would win on November 3rd. When the steal came at 4 am, he was caught off guard just as we were, but he had no support from the GOP.
When it was clear that he was in for a fight, he was forced to put together his own legal team and go at it. I am willing to bet that his GOP advisors told him he was ready for whatever happened. I believe he GOP failed to prepare for this intentionally.
Trump had definitely prepared Executive Orders relating to all of this years ago, but when the rubber hit the road he was betrayed on all sides. None of the people that he had put into positions of power to actually carry out the Executive Orders were obeying his command. He was left out to dry by all of those he trusted. Including Pence.
Trump didn't give up until the Electoral College vote. He never conceded until it became clear to him that there was NO WAY to salvage the election.
I refuse to believe that we are at the point of a "war or inaction" decision. There is still a third way - a Tea Party-like Patriot Party could make a real difference on the Local and State level (where the vast majority of the fraud occurred). IF the errors can be corrected, that's where it would happen. We have to remember that they haven't compromised every election, just in some key areas.
My question to you - if you don't agree that there's a viable third option, and we both agree that inaction is not an option, how would you go about making real change? You don't have to answer that, but it's definitely something to think about.
Either way, The People are desperately looking for leadership right now. Whether that's through something like the Patriot Party, or something else entirely, is up to the events of the coming months. There is no room for inaction.
The GOP Rinos indeed are the problem. They ARE power hungry and they realize that the Dems have semi-permanent hands on the levers of power, and they WANT SOME. (See: Ga.'s Brian Kemp.) In a sense, they are smart to draft in the Dem's winds, meanwhile Patriotic presidents and Legislators are out in the wilderness.
DJT needs at some point to apologize or at least acknowledge that he came into Jan. 6 without a plan. Or maybe, the plan was that a bunch of Patriots assembling would get Pence to help out. Which was no plan.
This was 20 steps behind the arduous series of steps that would have been required to REALLY reverse the steal. (WIN in the Legislatures, NAIL DOWN the military, ROAR into the Georgia to get the Senate votes recounted, etc.) . And in fact, none of these steps were feasible -- the Deep State held onto every scrap of power from January 2017 to the present.
Not only that he cheated, but also the fact that a lot of dimwits are ok with it.
what gets me is how stupid people have been about it...
It's not just that he cheated. It's that a kid was killed to stop the audit in Georgia. Car accident my ass.
Exactly this.
Will not add bricks to this. Pedo joe lost.
And so many let it happen..I’m disgusted.
Exactly
It's not the fact that Pedo Joe won that upsets me. It's the fact that he didn't win.
Would you rather America were legitimately dumb enough to give him 80 million votes?
Could be worse. As awful as it is you Americans can still turn things around from the bottom up using your states. Please do so. The North has already fallen.
This