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JohnDoe81627 5 points ago +7 / -2

What I'm saying is that Google owns the entire Android Operating System; yes, it's open source, but it's developed and maintained primarily by Google developers.

Lineage OS is not an alternative to Android, it is based off of it

Are there any UNIX based mobile operating systems that aren't Android?

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leDonaldAlwaysWins 4 points ago +5 / -1

perhaps some techies can comment, but my understanding with cell phones is, worrying about the OS for privacy is akin to worrying about votes on a dominion machine. every's phone's baseband is closed source and is most likely the first means of reading everything on your phone, it does not matter what OS you run

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leDonaldAlwaysWins 4 points ago +4 / -0

perhaps, i wouldn't put it past the alphabet agencies to do just that. there are phones that hardware separate the baseband and memory though such as the pinephone. i believe @nekroziz uses one, and he may have some insight into this.

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leDonaldAlwaysWins 1 point ago +1 / -0

yes this phone would be one that i'd use if its weren't $800. pinephone does pretty much all of this at $150. however, it is beta at best

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mty_green_go 1 point ago +2 / -1

That is correct. The baseband, which is like the firmware that runs the modem, is closed source. The new basebands probably have all the spyware they need since OS'es can be changed on phones now. They can still track your location with the cell service providers. You would need your own closed network like the cartels have in Mexico

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leDonaldAlwaysWins 2 points ago +3 / -1

bingo. thats why i gave up going with phones with "privacy" os. the same thing exists on pcs/servers where the closed source management engine has full access to the memory and effectively, makes encryption useless.

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JohnDoe81627 0 points ago +2 / -2

If patriots.win was based off of Reddit, then yes patriots.win IS Reddit.

A codebase as mature as Android (and Reddit) will easily have 100,000+ source code files. Just because Google (and Reddit) are no longer modifying the codebase doesn't mean all of their features have been removed once the code has been forked.

It is very possible that there are legacy features within LineageOS that still contact Google servers.

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JohnDoe81627 -1 points ago +1 / -2

What you're asking for is to find a needle in a haystack

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JohnDoe81627 -2 points ago +1 / -3

Done, see below

Edit: yes they do - a feature that uses Google Search definitely contacts Google's servers

Edit Edit: Lol those alt accounts πŸ˜†

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JohnDoe81627 -3 points ago +2 / -5

You should do research before spouting nonsense. LineageOS's souce code includes a number of references to Google including:

  • Extensive use of Google's protobuff utility
  • Annotations that Google developers own whole modules of the system
  • References to "use_google_mail"

Specific examples of use of Google services:

  • core/java/andriod/content/Intent.java (line 1366) - the Android system performs text searches through the Google search engine
  • core/java/android/content/ContentResolver.java (line 2967) - a TODO statement recognizing the need to remove references to Google (a TODO is a coding practice of documenting tasks that still need to be completed)

This is all from a cursory evaluation of the OS. I'm not saying that LineageOS is bad, but it's not the answer to a Google-free lifestyle #checkmate

Edit: you can downvote me all you'd like but it doesn't change the fact that you're full of shit #getwrekd

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JohnDoe81627 -5 points ago +1 / -6

My point is that LineageOS includes features that contact Google's servers.

You challenged me saying that LineageOS doesn't include anything from Google and that a user would have to "put Google back in".

I proved that 1) there are Google features still embedded within the operating system and 2) that there are features that do contact Google servers.

You are wrong on both cases #getwrekd

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TheWiseBuffalo 1 point ago +2 / -1

Is Ubuntu touch still a thing?

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kwqt 2 points ago +2 / -0

Looking at their list of supported phones, I'd say "no".

https://ubuntu-touch.io