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posted ago by EloiEloi ago by EloiEloi +533 / -0

Every now and then it just pops into my head to go and see what you're all talking about, and even though I know half of it is going nowhere, I still just want to know what you're all up to. Sometimes I think I've turned into a proper nutjob, but then I think it all through again, and I think. nope, the way its being spun everywhere else just doesn't quite add up. If I'm mad, at least I feel like I've got interesting company...

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SickOfIt 2 points ago +2 / -0

I was a default lefty (growing up in Canada, go figure). I was pretty big into it though I didn't care for intersectionality, but I thought their hearts were in the right place.

Then I started noticing how it was creeping into every single aspect of life. This is racist, that's sexist, those are anti-x whatever group, and it just hit so sharp that I started to get annoyed by it. This led to me seeking out the other side because I was like "ok come on fucking Pokemon Go is not racist, shut up".

Started watching people like Crowder and Shapiro which opened up different viewpoints I had never even considered before (we're pretty much conditioned here into being good little socialists). Sat down and really thought out my opinions on various policies.

Around this time I also started to notice the attack on American (really Western) culture. I came to realize that Canada and America (and other Western countries) have pretty similar cultures and that if the States falls, we all do.

Trump came into office and at first I thought it was ridiculous and that he would be terrible. But he started keeping his promises, boosting the economy, and fighting for the average person. He earned my respect and it's frankly disgusting how he's been treated.

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EloiEloi [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

This describes my journey as well. I actually got to the point of thinking, well ok, I guess I'm racist, but I'd rather be called that than twist myself into believing the nonesense I'm being asked to believe. It was the - "if you challenge the idea of white privilege, you're the problem" - that REALLY started me towards looking at trump for the first time.

I feel like I've been having a one-sided conversation for decades - i really could not understand how people could be conservative - I literally thought they were evil monsters. The reason I couldn't understand it is because I was never exposed to thoughtful conservative viewpoints. My big wake up was when I responded to a facebook comment one day and someone mentioned cultural marxism. I'd literally never heard of it and expressed curiosity and the other person posted a link of Jordan Peterson talking about it. It blew my mind because it was ideas I'd never even heard of (being a science/engineering sort) and I just devoured this whole different way of thinking. The world has made vastly more sense to me since the missing piece of the puzzle was introduced - at least I now have a sense of what it is that people are disagreeing about - before I just thought conservatives were selfish people who didn't care about others.

Jonathan Haidt's The Righteous Mind, and all of Thomas Sowell's books have been helpful to me. I really hope that we get to a place where people start talking to each other again...

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SickOfIt 1 point ago +1 / -0

Same page, friend. It's nice to find people who went through the same process.