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Serioussurfaholic 1 point ago +1 / -0

Drug screening. Budget management and basic home economics skills. Participation in internships or some kind of useful training program. Women should be on birth control, if you can't support yourself then you shouldn't have extra children over any you already have.

And food stamps should be limited to real food. We limit WIC to real food.

I have never taken government assistance but I remember standing in line once a month with my father for the government commodities box. I would rather see us giving American families food than shipping it overseas as food aid, when it often doesn't reach hungry people anyway.

Government cheese was good shit. I still remember everything that typically came in that box lol.

I feed hubby and I really well on what we would receive for food stamps if we had no income, and it pisses me off to no end when the government admits almost thirty percent of all food stamps are spent on junk food and luxury foods we can't afford.

And if we have to have welfare, then at least make it possible to get ahead enough so you don't need it. A better option than cash payments would be free child care for instance, not just for when you are learning the trade but for say a year after you have gotten a job so you can get caught up on bills and build a long term pantry.

But no bullshit training programs. Useful shit only.

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RoboChef [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I remember standing in line as a kid with my mom for government commodities and we were just unfortunate because my dad got laid off but they also had kids to feed and they did a good job of raising us. They did whatever they could to make sure we got fed and were able to go to school.

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Serioussurfaholic 1 point ago +1 / -0

I never considered us poor or unfortunate personally. My father moved up to where we didn't need the box over time, but it was a good box all things considered.

I was an only child. But I was fed, clothed and heaven help me if I got below a B plus in anything other than gym class.

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RoboChef [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Only reason i didn’t upvote you is because I don’t believe in a forced “no kids” thing. I think that’s a bit dystopian.

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Serioussurfaholic 1 point ago +1 / -0

Oh, it is dystopian indeed. But after seeing in person the results of the current system rewarding people for having children they can't afford for several decades now I am sick of it.

When I was a teen in the 80s, girls celebrated getting pregnant. Had kids, raised by their mothers (badly) in housing project section 8 apartments, while they spent the clothing allowance they got annually for children they didn't parent or even care about on rabbit fur jackets, designer jeans, gold chains and partying.

That is as dystopian as you can get.