I honestly don't think Pence would have done anything like that. He just bowed out when the ride got too wild for him. If there was anything bad on him, we would know. I think he just got too tired of the rollercoaster that was the past four years and thought (erroneously) that being the counterbalance to the Trump Disruption would bring things back to balance in the right's favor.

Pence is no Mittens. He didn't lie back and take it like Mittens did. Pence did fight, but I think he was just tired after four years and thought/hoped the American electorate had seen the "extreme" from the right on Trump and had the pendulum swing back to a less radical Obama Administration, hoping to find the true balance eventually.

Pence saw the extreme of Trump, but Trump's extreme wasn't politically extreme, it was vocally extreme. That's where Pence screwed up. He confused political and speech extremes.

Believe me, I'm mad about what Pence did in the last few months, but his beat downs in the debates were great. Let's take the good and incorporate it into what we need,