your still missing the point that he had big lawfirms quit under pressure so nobody was waltzing in there and doing anything.

No one is missing that point. I've posted all over the place that BigLaw bailed on the case, and that was pretty fatal to the legal rute. Other posted here and in other threads that that was a huge problem. Yes, Rudy was better than nothing, but he was NOT sober enough to really take the wheel of the ship.

rud6 did a outstanding job with his hearings infrom of the state legislatures and because of that Arizona is possibly looking to arrest officials whonwill not comply woth the audit subpoena.

True, up to a point. the "Holiday Inn meetings" attracted some ridicule, but at least somebody was doing something.

and the fact that none of the other layers got their cases any further then rudy did .

Your facts are incorrect.

The case that went the farthest went to the WISCONSIN SUPREME COURT with NO RUDY.

Jim Troupis -- not RUDY -- represented Trump and almost pulled it off -- 4-3 decision, with 3 going for the prez.

once again blaming this on rudy and saying there would have been different results with any other lawyers is delusional

Not only Troupis, but Trump attorney Jesse Binnall in NEVADA arguably did better than Rudy. He got ELECTION LAW on the table and was enormously prepared with his witness statements and illegal voters.

We're on the same page ultimately Fren, and I think you are turning. your anger at this clusterfark in a direction toward Frens. I get it. But Rudy was ESPECIALLY a problem in terms of DESTROYING the ability of the Patriots on the "machine" side of the argument to gain traaction, hiding the President from good intel, and being a stupid drunk in the nation's moment of need.

Was he a Bush Cartel plant? Might as well have been.