I don’t give a damn what anybody says, both of those debate performances were solid. I threw parties each time and the liberal half left thinking “man Biden really messed this up”. Trump got a lot of media flack especially the first one and even propagated somewhat through here, but it was a solid performance. He was aggressive, knowledgeable, and cut to the point like a hot knife through butter. Some may disagree, but that’s how I interpreted those debates, just not a total kill shot like “because you’d be in jail” and sadly that’s yet to happen.