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Smurfection 22 points ago +23 / -1

Again,

The whole thing about BLM and Antifa are coming to a suburb near you, was always hogwash. Antifa and BLM never operated in high crime areas and only in places in which the governor, mayor, city council, DA and police chief were 100% Democrat lefties. Let's take the two main hotspots besides NYC, Portland and Seattle. Both of those cities are about 90% "white", have low rates of gang activity and the crime is mostly petty, especially Portland. They aren't very big in terms of population. This is the ONLY type of place in which BLM/Antifa could operate every single night and every single weekend. They were never going to be able to operate in areas that were dominated with high violent crime rates, with a mix Republican/Democrat city council or areas in which the electorate swings or remains red.

The point is, the violence on the part of BLM/Antifa was permitted and allowed by the Dems in charge. Look at how fast Mayor Wheeler of Portland got the National Guard in to clean up antifa protests in Portland once Biden got inaugurated. It's not nearly what it was even a month ago.

The way some people talk about antifa and BLM as having some great strategy we could imitate is bonkers! They are astroturf. Bought and paid for losers (the ones who weren't getting paid are even bigger idiots) and they were ALLOWED to operate. They did not act against the system. The system was coordinating, encouraging and communicating with them the entire time. They only pretended to target a couple of dems here and there for optics. Raz Simone was sometimes in hourly communication with the chief of police in Seattle. Antifa and BLM are THEATRE. They are not real. We can't imitate them because they don't exist as they present themselves but as the useful idiots for the DNC. They are a rent-a-mob.

I can't believe that some of us pedes still haven't figured this out. It's been pointed out over and over and over again. The mistake the Proud Boys (mad respect for PB) and Patriot Rally made was thinking they could go toe to toe with Antifa and BLM and get away with it. They seemed not to understand, antifa and BLM were PERMITTED by the politicians in those cities to carry on the way they were. Those same politicians absolutely hated the Proud Boys and Patriot Prayer Rally. It's not about tactics, violence, big mobs and the lefty protest delusion of the masses revolting ....that's all an act.

The purpose of BLM and ANTIFA was to goad Trump into sparking violence by declaring the insurrection act and taking over the local government. Then the DNC was going to turn around and call him literally hitler and a fascist and an authoritarian and have the pics of the tanks on the streets to prove it. That was the whole darned point to the astroturfing. How can you not see this?

I don't understand why so many pedes (surely not even more than 20% though) keep on thinking that Antifa and BLM were some kind of organic street protests that rose up spontaneously. They are not. The same people who rigged the election, are the same people who paid other people to community organize a bunch of losers and dopey public school teachers to riot.

Let make this as clear as possible: THE DEMOCRAT POLITICIANS AND DONORS WANTED ANTIFA AND BLM TO RIOT. LORETTA LYNCH, OBAMA's AG, IS ON VIDEO IN DECEMBER 2016 CALLING FOR BLOOD IN THE STREETS.

Stop buying the bs that it's really a popular uprising by people on the left. Most of the BLM and Antifa rioters had no idea what they were doing or why they were there. They don't know anything about politics or economics and don't care. They are not smart strategists that brought cities to their knees. Rather, the local governments in those areas really wanted the rioting because it would help them to win politicially. It was only because so many dummies on our side got so riled up about it and didn't see it for the show it was, that we expended all this time and energy on the flash bang riots rather than the stealth move of stealing the election.

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JungleJim 5 points ago +6 / -1

Thanks for the extensive explanation. Once they had the core group of paid rioters going, many people joined in for fun. Not because they had strong feelings about anything. When I was a kid my friends and I would run and hide from the town cop at night, because we were bored and it was exciting. We weren't worried about getting shot (even though that was a possibility). I think it's the same for many who are assumed to be antifa. Just bored folks playing, without concern for the consequences.

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Smurfection 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yep. Most of the core group were "community organizers" who convinced a bunch of white upper middle class kids to play act as revolutionaries but mostly, it was the lost dejected losers that showed up that did the violence. They didn't do it for political reasons. They did it for the fun of it. Ever notice all these things usually happen on warm or hot nights in summer? I suspect part of the reason for the shut down was so the loser stoner kids would have time on their hands and swell the ranks of Antifa/BLM which happened a bit but not as much as the left hoped.

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TruthyBrat 1 point ago +1 / -0

Plenty joined in for the looting in Minneapolis, Atlanta, NY, Chicago, etc.

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Yianni1955 2 points ago +2 / -0

Most of us understand that the Antifa/BLM rioting was allowed. The large urban cities are the strongholds of the Marxist-Democrats. That's where the voter fraud that stoled the election occurred. People must start to realize that WE ARE IN A WAR. We must prepare and organize accordingly. ( covertly and quietly for now) Disarmament is a very high Marxist Democrat priority. H.R. 127- The Sabika Sheikh Firearms Act is a must-read for all Conservatives

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TheCandorist 2 points ago +2 / -0

The few times antifa or BLM step out of their safe zone they either get the shit kicked out of them or they get shot. Here in PA over crackhead Floyd they were supposed to be "walking to DC". They started harassing a home owner in a rural area and he shot them with bird shot. All of a sudden a bunch of cars showed up and they drove away.

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Smurfection 2 points ago +2 / -0

yep, everytime Antifa and BLM have left their comfort zones, they get smacked, hard. I talked to the local sheriff about a permit I noticed in my own county for a BLM protest that happened last summer...He said it was a basically a teen age girl and four of her high school friends that sat on main street with signs and no one cared. That's pretty much what it is anywhere that isn't a 100% Democrat stronghold.

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TheCandorist 1 point ago +1 / -0

If they show up in my town my neighbor (police) and I pretty much vowed to not hold quarter. We are not using birdshot. We are using 5.56. Not a lot of us around here in this tiny 500 person town and only so many men so it's a critical issue if we have a dozen or more violent people attacking our citizens. We are over 20 miles from a town so nobody is coming to help us if things get out of control.

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Smurfection 1 point ago +1 / -0

BLM and Antifa are never going to show up in a town of 500 people because you could scare them just by laughing at them. They are not a large group. They are loud, obnoxious and bored but they are few in number and they definitely aren't going to go to 500 person town. They thrive on disrupting left wing cities only and not even the big cities (except NY). The biggest city they could hit outside of NY is Atlanta and that didn't end well for them and Atlanta is all Democrats.

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NuclearRocks1 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well said. 🥴

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Monsterfan 1 point ago +1 / -0

Still pedaling falsehoods I see to keep our side from acting.

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Smurfection 2 points ago +3 / -1

What? Do you want our side to throw on some face paint and viking horns are yell helplessly at the sky in Portland?

I'm all for acting but big grand gestures that don't accomplish anything don't move our agenda forward. Now, what happened to the GME shortsale, that was acting and patriots et al put their own wallets on the line to make a point. We made that point and we'll probablyhave to do it again but having street fights with all the street hoodlums the Dems have ginned up in Portland doesn't move anything forward. Again, it's just theatre and playing the emo game. I know you want some sort of big cathartic hoopla but that's not going to happen. This is a long hard fight, maybe a generational fight and it's not going to be won by those who aren't keeping the long game in mind.

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Smurfection 1 point ago +2 / -1

Also, you need to read this article by Andy Ngo. https://www.newsweek.com/how-media-politicians-aided-antifa-rioters-portland-opinion-1563373

There was nothing the Proud Boys or Patriot Prayer rally or "do something violent in the streets NAO!" crowd was going to be able to accomplish against Antifa and BLM because it WASN'T just Antifa/BLM playing the riot game.

Read that article and pay attention to how the city councils and mayors in those areas knew exactly what was happening and actively ran interference for Antifa/BLM and maneuvered to unfairly and harshly put down any right wingers.

What do you think having a bunch of flip side street fighters in Portland or Seattle was going to accomplish? All our street fighters would be given ten year sentences while Antifa and BLM would just be let off the same day? Were we supposed to have hoardes of right wingers get themselves arrested just to "fight back"? That's a wrongheaded strategy.

Look at what Matt Gaetz did in Wyoming to Lizz Cheney. That's what we need to do. We need to make our appearances in deep red areas and have our right wing media cover it. Just get over your addiction to fighty fight livestreams in small city lefty America because It's not real. It's almost staged reality to make people like you think they can run into those places and play rock em sock em robots with the left.