Giuliani was not to blame for what happens. Indeed, his strategy of focusing on the illegality of Cote procedures was probably the only strategy that had a snowballs chance of working. That and, as he did, focusing on the Statr legislatures.
But the reality was that Trump never had a chance. The election was never going to be overturned. To many politicians and judges are either owned or intimidated—whether through blackmail or mere social pressure. Trump never had a chance. The Texas case proved that.
The problem with the fraud cases was that they were ultimately a matter for Law Enforcement and all of the government institutions entrusted with the enforcement of election laws willfully closed their eyes and walked away.
Blaming Giuliani is bullshit. Anyone who watched him in those hearings knows he worked his ass off. No one could have given a better presentation to the lawmakers involved. In the end, no one had the courage to stand up and do what was right despite Guliani’s pleading and the mountains of evidence he presented.
The fact is that unless the courts were serious about election fraud, it was never going to happen. All the issues behind the scenes with the lawyers is incidental.
The legislatures failed, the courts failed, and the congress failed so basically, Trump was forced to make a decision. Transition peacefully, or have violence. As soon as violence happened, even if he secured the office, they would have called his presidency a failure, because for the first time in US history we didn't have a peaceful transition of power. That is the entire purpose of having a democratic process.
I'm not sure the decorum of past transitions was enough to argue for the same in this one, because the process was not democratic this time like arguably most before.
gonna wait and see on this one, we have SOOOOOO much time now, right? also, I have doubts on rudy. someone charging that much money and spending time doing podcasts with adverts in them just makes me mad.
Rudy is a drunken grifter and was definitely a problem. He was worse than useless because he influenced Trump to not take the path that could have salvaged the election before Jan 6.
Interesting read. Giuliani has done better than it portrays, but it does bring up the issue of how Democrats are typically way better positioned for lawfare. Biden bragged about having an army of 1000 lawyers for his most extensive voter fraud organization in the history of the U.S. Biden barely campaigned, but raised lots of money for lawfare. That seems to be their strategy.
Giuliani was not to blame for what happens. Indeed, his strategy of focusing on the illegality of Cote procedures was probably the only strategy that had a snowballs chance of working. That and, as he did, focusing on the Statr legislatures.
But the reality was that Trump never had a chance. The election was never going to be overturned. To many politicians and judges are either owned or intimidated—whether through blackmail or mere social pressure. Trump never had a chance. The Texas case proved that.
The problem with the fraud cases was that they were ultimately a matter for Law Enforcement and all of the government institutions entrusted with the enforcement of election laws willfully closed their eyes and walked away.
Blaming Giuliani is bullshit. Anyone who watched him in those hearings knows he worked his ass off. No one could have given a better presentation to the lawmakers involved. In the end, no one had the courage to stand up and do what was right despite Guliani’s pleading and the mountains of evidence he presented.
1000% this. It should be pointed out that Giuliani is still fighting.
The fact is that unless the courts were serious about election fraud, it was never going to happen. All the issues behind the scenes with the lawyers is incidental.
The legislatures failed, the courts failed, and the congress failed so basically, Trump was forced to make a decision. Transition peacefully, or have violence. As soon as violence happened, even if he secured the office, they would have called his presidency a failure, because for the first time in US history we didn't have a peaceful transition of power. That is the entire purpose of having a democratic process.
I'm not sure the decorum of past transitions was enough to argue for the same in this one, because the process was not democratic this time like arguably most before.
gonna wait and see on this one, we have SOOOOOO much time now, right? also, I have doubts on rudy. someone charging that much money and spending time doing podcasts with adverts in them just makes me mad.
Byrne is an attention seeking sketch.
Rudy is a drunken grifter and was definitely a problem. He was worse than useless because he influenced Trump to not take the path that could have salvaged the election before Jan 6.
Downvote me you Rudy cock-gobblers!
Interesting read. Giuliani has done better than it portrays, but it does bring up the issue of how Democrats are typically way better positioned for lawfare. Biden bragged about having an army of 1000 lawyers for his most extensive voter fraud organization in the history of the U.S. Biden barely campaigned, but raised lots of money for lawfare. That seems to be their strategy.
Democrats have a better legal operation because they essentially own the Bar. Find me a lawyer who votes Republican. Openly. Go ahead. I’ll wait.