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45willwinagain 1 point ago +5 / -4

And no other building has had fully fueled airliners slam into them at full speed before.

Just fire isn't going to be enough, but when you scoop out three or four floors worth of structual supports, THEN set those floors on fire... the weight of the building above is more than the destroyed and weakened metal can support.

If you can't wrap your mind around simple physics you should stop acting like you know what you are talking about.

Because you don't.

also LOL @ 7 having a "small fire"

holy shit you suck at this.

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Dennislearsysbastard 6 points ago +8 / -2

Building 7 was never hit. Were you alive then?

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45willwinagain 0 points ago +6 / -6

Bitch I'm almost 50, I watched it all happen while i was loading up guns and ammo headed to the cabin.

Building 7 WAS hit, buy two of the largest buildings in the country collapsing right next to it.

https://911fantasyworld.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/wtc7corner.jpg

See that giant chunk carved out of the corner of building 7? Thats a big "get your fucking facts straight before you open your mouth" just for you.

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Boomerangwrangler 5 points ago +7 / -2

The DIA destroyed 2.5 TB of data on Able Danger, but that’s OK because it probably wasn’t important. http://web.archive.org/web/20050922032625/http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/print?id=1131137

The SEC destroyed their records on the investigation into the insider trading before the attacks, but that’s OK because destroying the records of the largest investigation in SEC history is just part of routine record keeping. http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2010/06/sec-government-destroyed-documents-regarding-pre-911-put-options.html

NIST has classified the data that they used for their model of WTC7’s collapse, but that’s OK because knowing how they made their model of that collapse would “jeopardize public safety“. http://911blogger.com/news/2010-07-12/nist-denies-access-wtc-collapse-data http://cryptome.org/nist070709.pdf

More here: https://www.corbettreport.com/911-a-conspiracy-theory/

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45willwinagain -1 points ago +4 / -5

you don't seem to be picking up what i'm putting down.

Everything you said still fits into the theory that the people who planned it and allowed it to happen love it when internet jackoffs mouth fuck each other with extra chromosome theories about patriot missiles and windowless planes.

It's called controlled opposition.

Nobody will take you seriously if you keep deepthroating nonsense.

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GreatHumungous 3 points ago +4 / -1

Oh what happened to building 7 then?

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45willwinagain -2 points ago +2 / -4

https://911fantasyworld.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/wtc7corner.jpg

The entire corner of the building was scooped out by the collapse of two of the largest buildings in the country right next door.

it then caught fire.

As the fire burned the structural steel looses it's ability to support the weight of the building above it.

Once the weight of the building was more than the slowly failing supporting structure could support, the support failed and the building fell into the damaged area.

It's exactly how/why the other two towers collapsed.

buildings are heavy.

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TruthWillOut 0 points ago +1 / -1

"Just fire isn't going to be enough, but when you scoop out three or four floors worth of structural supports, THEN set those floors on fire... the weight of the building above is more than the destroyed and weakened metal can support."

False. Why are you lying?

WTC 1 & 2 had ALL floors FULLY SUPORTED by the multitude of giant core beams constructed in the middle of the buildings surrounded by the heavily reinforced concrete shaft.

This design was created to ensure that both towers could withstand not one but multiple crashes of airliners. It didn't matter how much of the outer walls was destroyed as they just acted like fly screens on a door or window, which you can poke as many holes you like through but that doesn't effect the rigidity or stability of the actual door/window.

The "official fairy tale" also completely omitted the fact that the fire chief got all the way up to the very floors of the crash and could be heard on the recordings reporting "only small pockets of fires and nothing that one or two ladders wouldn't be able to handle".

So, the fire chief was up there IN PERSON and reported that this was not going to be a big deal. There was NO "inferno" like in the "official fairy tale" which you keep parroting.

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45willwinagain 1 point ago +2 / -1

jesus christ you're fucking stupid...

The buildings were designed to withstand a crash of a much smaller plane flying slowly lost in the fog looking for the nearby airport (see bomber hits the empire state building)

they WERE NOT DESIGNED to withstand a fully loaded, fully fueled modern airliner flying at full speed into the buildings.

the way the towers were constructed the floors were an open design, and this was accomplished by a strong central core bridged to the outer skin (and hat trusses) vis zig zag trusses that held up pre-tensioned concrete.

the planes demolished the outer skin, multiple floors worth of zigzag trusses (in the impact zones) and the central core (thus taking out the elevators and stairs trapping people above the impact zone).

the impact also blew all the fireproofing insulation off the trusses in the impact zone.

you seem to have a very weak and cherry picked concept of how the buildings were constructed... the fact that you are here insisting that each floor was somehow cantilevered out off into space from the central core is just astonishingly stupid and demonstrates a complete lack of simple engineering understanding.

also sauce please for "the fire chief said it was just a small campfire"

you can clearly see there was thick black smoke billowing from both towers for a LONG time after the impacts... meaning the fuel (which was mostly aerosolized on impact) had long since burned away and you were seeing everything on those impacted floors burning.

chairs, desks, carpet, tons of plastic...

the north tower burned from 8:46 till it failed at 10:28 (1 hour and 42 minutes) the south tower burned for less time from 9:02 till 9:59 (56 minutes)

notice how the second tower to be hit fell first? yeah thats because it was struck lower on the tower and had more weight to hold so it failed quicker.

sustained fires weakened the damaged areas until the structure couldn't support the weight of the undamaged floors above the impact zone...

when that happened the top part of the tower fell through the damaged area and into the lower part of the towers.

buildings are heavy, the lower portions aren't able to "catch" the upper portions when they fall into them.

it's really not that complicated, and i can't for the life of me understand why you cousin fuckers can't wrap your waterheads around it.

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TruthWillOut 0 points ago +1 / -1

Parroting Damage Control nonsense doesn't get you far here.

You GLOW brighter than a thousand suns!

MODS: Can we get a COINTELPRO flag for the nic 45willwinagain?

"The buildings were designed to withstand a crash of a much smaller plane flying slowly lost in the fog looking for the nearby airport

they WERE NOT DESIGNED to withstand a fully loaded, fully fueled modern airliner flying at full speed into the buildings."

That's another lie. Why do you keep LYING?

Minoru Yamasaki designed and Emery Roth & Sons constructed the towers to withstand multiple hits of airliners since New York at that time had the busiest air space in the world, where NO "small lost planes" are allowed. ANY flight veering even slightly off course will be met by air force and escorted.

Black smoke indicate oxygen starved fires.

Link to FDNY radio communication transcripts, including FDNY Battalion 7 Chief Orio Palmer's report from the impact scene on floor 78 before they were murdered:

http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/wtc/firefighters.htm

Mirror: https://web.archive.org/web/20080906042226/http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/firefighter-tape-excerpts.htm

There was NO "fire inferno" like YOU and the traitorous scum protecting Cheney, Wolfowitz, Silverstein, Kristol and the rest of the criminals in PNAC, keep parroting.

But don't worry, justice is coming.

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45willwinagain 0 points ago +1 / -1

again, you're proving yourself to be one of the most indoctrinated dumbfucks i've ever come across

i didn't claim the buildings were designed to withstand small planes, i said "smaller"... as in not giant aircraft that hit it.

and fuck your psycobabble "cointelpro" nonsense... calling the mods for help because you can't hold your own in a conversation. go fuck yourself nutjob.

site your source on "designed to withstand impact of MULTIPLE PLANE STRIKES

in what fucking world would a structural engineer design a building to withstand multiple planes smashing into it?

you know what that sounds like? that sounds like you are "quoting" some other truthtard that is either intentionally spreading disinformation trying to make the community look bad... or you are here to spread it.

you're a fucking tool, you're controlled opposition, stop being such a useful idiot.

the empire state building got hit by a b-52

http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/328309/slide_328309_3188122_free.jpg

how did that happen... ready for this? it was fucking lost in fog looking for the airport flying slowly low on fuel.

THAT is what they were designed to withstand.

also... your fucking bullshit about "oxygen deprived fires"... again... GO FUCK YOURSELF

fires burn thick black smoke due to CARBON PARTICULATE from burning plastic. the kind of plastic that FUCKING OFFICE BUILDINGS ARE FULL OF.

fucking

retard

jesus you suck at this, you're the laziest and dumbest truthtard i've ever encountered.