You forgot the study from 2005 of HCQs effective against SARs proven in lab. Since Covid and Sars are 70% same rna strand and both use ace2 receptors for infection. HCQ was not just randomly picked for study it already had a very solid lab proven capability to also be effective against covid.
Guns are effective against viruses in vitro; lots of things are. In vitro doesn't tell you as much as you think it does. What it tells you is that if the medication could get to the right place, in the right concentration in the right amount of time to still be relevant, with doses that aren't dangerous and none of the other tens of thousands of substances in the body inhibits the effect, it might be effective.
There is no substitute for testing these things in vivo, and most medicines tested in vivo fail even if they showed some effect in vitro.
With COVID-19 in particular it is known that there is a viral replication phase and an inflammationary phase. Giving HCQ 14 days after infection, when vulnerable people start to get put in respirators is entirely meaningless. There is no virus left; there is only dead virus particles and an overactive immune system going scorched earth. That's when they give steroids to weaken the immune systems hyperinflammatory response; which would be bad if there still was a lot of live virus. Giving HCQ early in the onset, before you end up in a hospital; when you do not yet know if you're going to be severely affected; is what could have a large effect on reducing viral growt. That requires you to proactively give HCQ. Most studies in vivo focused on giving very excessive doses (far larger than is used as profylaxis against malaria) and usually without zinc and azithromycin; and they gave those doses to people who had little or no virus left.
What that's going to do is give you a mess of studies that show different things, because they are actually testing different doses in different stages of the disease combined with different things (some give zinc, some don't).
Yep I spent a decent amount of time browsing around in pubmed and lancet looking for HCQ related research also. The point of it being already known to be effective to some degree in early stages of a SARs infection. Combined with SARs and Covid being the same family of virus with same cell attachment method. Means that HCQ was not just some accidental drug to test. They had a fairly good idea it would be effective. I think a time-line should reflect this. The medical community already knew they had a potential treatment for early stage infection.
He also forgot that the VA study (May 19) was not claiming it was ineffective, it claimed that it KILLS people.
Governors BANNED HCQ after that corrupt study. The french doctor analysed it, said they took people that died of Covid, selected some that had received HCQ very late and falsly claimed that is the reason of death.
Headlines went ballistic and Neil Cavuto believed the headlines.
Ya. I think that study said it was ineffective not that it actually caused complications. Still sick as heck. HCQ was shown to be useful in early stages not the advanced late stages of a bad infection, and all the tests where on veterans either on oxygen about to be ventilated or already ventilated. Instead of testing the steroids that COULD be effective in severe cases and maybe save lives. They tested HCQ which showed no signs of being useful in the late stages...
These demons had to have known of the HCQ studies before this. So they intentionally let veterans die then used that BS study. To convince people HCQ was bad... killing more people.
And every day these people who KNEW the research and KNEW there actions would get people killed, committed actual murder... the MSM praises them, and at least 30% of this country faps themselves daily waiting for their MSM masters to tell them what to think......
The VA study. Paid by NIH. Analyzed on his podcast by the great Dr Didier Raoult.
I didn't read it, but this man knows what he's talking about. The study falsely claims that HCQ killed people at the VA. In comparison it said that taking nothing was better. It was complete fabrication. And it generated all the headlines at the time.
You forgot the study from 2005 of HCQs effective against SARs proven in lab. Since Covid and Sars are 70% same rna strand and both use ace2 receptors for infection. HCQ was not just randomly picked for study it already had a very solid lab proven capability to also be effective against covid.
They always knew HCQ would stop this BS.
And Fauci knew of that research, said at the time that it proved that HCQ was ideal for SARs.
Guns are effective against viruses in vitro; lots of things are. In vitro doesn't tell you as much as you think it does. What it tells you is that if the medication could get to the right place, in the right concentration in the right amount of time to still be relevant, with doses that aren't dangerous and none of the other tens of thousands of substances in the body inhibits the effect, it might be effective.
There is no substitute for testing these things in vivo, and most medicines tested in vivo fail even if they showed some effect in vitro.
With COVID-19 in particular it is known that there is a viral replication phase and an inflammationary phase. Giving HCQ 14 days after infection, when vulnerable people start to get put in respirators is entirely meaningless. There is no virus left; there is only dead virus particles and an overactive immune system going scorched earth. That's when they give steroids to weaken the immune systems hyperinflammatory response; which would be bad if there still was a lot of live virus. Giving HCQ early in the onset, before you end up in a hospital; when you do not yet know if you're going to be severely affected; is what could have a large effect on reducing viral growt. That requires you to proactively give HCQ. Most studies in vivo focused on giving very excessive doses (far larger than is used as profylaxis against malaria) and usually without zinc and azithromycin; and they gave those doses to people who had little or no virus left.
What that's going to do is give you a mess of studies that show different things, because they are actually testing different doses in different stages of the disease combined with different things (some give zinc, some don't).
Yep I spent a decent amount of time browsing around in pubmed and lancet looking for HCQ related research also. The point of it being already known to be effective to some degree in early stages of a SARs infection. Combined with SARs and Covid being the same family of virus with same cell attachment method. Means that HCQ was not just some accidental drug to test. They had a fairly good idea it would be effective. I think a time-line should reflect this. The medical community already knew they had a potential treatment for early stage infection.
He also forgot that the VA study (May 19) was not claiming it was ineffective, it claimed that it KILLS people.
Governors BANNED HCQ after that corrupt study. The french doctor analysed it, said they took people that died of Covid, selected some that had received HCQ very late and falsly claimed that is the reason of death.
Headlines went ballistic and Neil Cavuto believed the headlines.
I didn't see a specific reference it kills (by the VA). Only included what was specifically written or said
Ya. I think that study said it was ineffective not that it actually caused complications. Still sick as heck. HCQ was shown to be useful in early stages not the advanced late stages of a bad infection, and all the tests where on veterans either on oxygen about to be ventilated or already ventilated. Instead of testing the steroids that COULD be effective in severe cases and maybe save lives. They tested HCQ which showed no signs of being useful in the late stages...
These demons had to have known of the HCQ studies before this. So they intentionally let veterans die then used that BS study. To convince people HCQ was bad... killing more people.
And every day these people who KNEW the research and KNEW there actions would get people killed, committed actual murder... the MSM praises them, and at least 30% of this country faps themselves daily waiting for their MSM masters to tell them what to think......
The VA study. Paid by NIH. Analyzed on his podcast by the great Dr Didier Raoult.
I didn't read it, but this man knows what he's talking about. The study falsely claims that HCQ killed people at the VA. In comparison it said that taking nothing was better. It was complete fabrication. And it generated all the headlines at the time.