Except the article is misleading. Watch a few minutes of the video. At least 1-2 minutes. This quote is him critiquing rhettoric (style) in the middle of a LONG segment about why we need a real investigation, and real court case to examine the evidence, and that we've been denied that so far. Ted Cruz is literally making our case for us.
He's packaging it from a more "moderate" stance to not scare the normies, but in that podcast he's literally doing EXACTLY what we've all been asking for.
I'm SO FUCKING PISSED at TheGatewayPundit for pulling this shit out of context, in order to attack one of MAGA's few remaining allies in the Senate. If we throw Ted Cruz under the bus for critiquing mere "rhettoric" when he's literally the #1 fighter for Trump in the senate right now, we might as well give up entirely.
Yes, I want more 100% MAGA people in government and wish we had better. But where are these better people? I'll take a Ted Cruz who is about 90% MAGA, call him out when he fucks up, but does a better job than 99% of the Senate.
Until we get MAGA in the senate, lets stop throwing people under the bus for a couple second segment among a 15+ minute argument about why we need to actually investigate the 2020 election,
Moronic. What happened at the Capitol was a stage play. Millions stood on the front lawn, singing protest songs and holding placards. A few dozen entered the building, and walked around. No one on the side of the government was killed because of anything that happened that day. Two police officers died under mysterious circumstances afterward. I wonder why that happened?
Probably the same reason four of our newly minted MAGA congressmen died just after being elected.
Probably the same reason the Clintons have a trail of bodies behind them.
The congressional vote afterward had nothing to do with a few people taking a tour of the Capitol building after the police put forward a token effort in keeping them out. The same people who voted in a fraudulently elected president were the same people behind the toothless "riot."
I don't conceded that anything Trump said or did was reckless or irresponsible. Anyone trying to package it that way for the normies is a surrender monkey who IS ACCEPTING THE LEFT'S PREMISE.
No way, no how, should Cruz or any Republican concede that Trump was reckless or irresponsible when talking about the FACT that they STOPPED COUNTING VOTES WHEN THINGS WERE NOT GOING THEIR WAY.
They literally STOLE an election are trying to pretend the guy who didn't "quietly accept" that is the bad one in the scenario.
But you're correct, GP is a click bait asshole who often quotes things out of context.
Cruz is mostly critiquing the the rhetoric (style), or at least that's my take listening to the audio.
I agree that Trump won in a landslide, I've seen the evidence myself which is clear as day, and doesn't require relying on any of the more fantastical or unproven claims. Literally election night I was founding a few hundred-thousand Biden only votes in states, where president-only votes don't happen historically.
I don't think telling the truth is irresponsible. So I do dissagree with Cruz on that point. But it's not the level of critique or Trump bashing that the article makes it out to be.
That's just two competing styles but the saying goes. The squeaky wheel is the one who gets the oil. You either be loud and complain or you get forced to submit. Trump fights while Cruz tries to find a more even handed approach.
So basically he's being a cowardly, feckless lawyer afraid to call a spade a spade.
Trump didn't perform the ceremony in a court of law to get his statements declared "proven" so it's irresponsible of him to say those things! Nevermind that a) Trump isn't a lawyer and b) the entire judicial system is known at this point to be riddled with corruption.
This is why I loath lawyers. Judicial zealotry is a luxury we can only afford when the country is free of corruption. I for one won't be voting for this fightless, booger-eating turd in the primary. I'd rather elect a ham sandwich over Cruz.
He's not saying Trump himself is irresponsible. He made a short comment about how specific statements were irresponsible. in particular claiming he had won in a landslide. Based on my view of the evidence, Trump did win in a landslide. And that's based on EVIDENCE, and not vague kracken, or q-anon style stuff that's vague with weak support.
So I dissagree with Cruz's statement, but he's not really bashing Trump that harshly.
For example, I could say the manner in which Cruz worded his critique in those few seconds was irresponsible, but it's not really the same as me accusing Cruz of being irresponsible in general. Cruz is 90% to 95% on our side, which I'll take over nearly everyone else in DC.
Thanks. This is known as quote mining, what the article did. I agree 100% with your assessment. I could apologize for Cruz further, saying he's merely re-stating what Trump said, fine tuning it for his audience.
We'll really know when we see how Cruz votes on impeachment. I think it should be tossed, just like the last one.
I took Cruz's comments on rhetoric did criticize Trump, but the overall interview is Pro-Trump. And the GP click bait pissed off a lot of people I know!
I agree. I don't want Cruz or any other conservative giving an inch. The strongest possible language should be used at every opportunity. Any less than that is illustrating complicity in the fraud. We played by the rules while they overtly stole the damn thing. THEY should be walking on pins and needles, not us.
Personally, I don't trust Cruz. It's clear he's one of the rehearsed politicians that jumped over all the proper establishment hurdles to become a DC insider. We need homegrown politicians that proved their conservative, anti-globalist chops BEFORE entering office. And preferably, no more Ivy League assholes. I'll take a guy with a degree from a community college over one from Harvard at this point. Any day of the week.
Personally, I don't trust Cruz. It's clear he's one of the rehearsed politicians that jumped over all the proper establishment hurdles to become a DC insider.
Yup. Trump said he won big, cause he had to. If he had been quiet like Cruz is saying, no one would know otherwise. He had to speak out, as he was the only one doing it. Trump also knew court of public opinion, especially when it comes to something the media and now courts wont hear or talk about, is especially important when you are trying to be silenced.
Cruz isn't stupid, he knows this. He's saying just enough to be "critical" of Trump, but not enough to throw off any stupid plebs into not voting him back in office, which they will. He waited until dozens of courts threw cases out the window on 'technicalities' before he started saying anything about needing investigations. We had investigations, we got the evidence, we don't need more investigations, we need courts and trials now. But of course, he isn't pushing for that. Just like before the 6th, and 2 hours after the "siege", in those 2 hours he completely forgot about the 10 day investigation he was pushing.
Like everything else he's done over the past 4 years, he's talk. He's all talk, he never actually does anything. 90% MAGA is still a 10% RINO. And a RINO is a RINO.
Cruz makes a short comment, suggesting the rhetoric (style) around winning in a landslide was irresponsible. However, it's not quite the level of bashing trump that the article and title suggests. His tone of voice is mostly "trump did X, y, z which wasn't ideal, but..."
But that's only a few seconds of critique, when he spends 15+ minutes laying out the case that there was fraud, and that we need an investigation and day in court, and that we never got that.
So for example, I might say Cruz's wording in that particular comment was irresponsible, but that critique is only about Cruz's specific comments those few seconds, and not about Cruz in general or what he says during the wider 15 minutes.
I watched about 15 minutes of the clip, and Cruz spends 95% of it arguing on our behalf, and the other 5% saying things that mildly annoy me. I don't agree with Trump all the time either, so unless we're expecting puritans, the podcast taken in it's entirety is something we should be very happy about ... that Cruz is still fighting for us.
Instead, MAGA was tricked into bashing one of our few allies for a few comments that were out of place.
Nope. None of this matters. Cruz is a traitor. Want your mind blown? So is Rand Paul. Not a single senator objected to Georgia. Not one senator stood up and did the right thing. ZERO! We will forever vote for ceremonial purposes only. I know it's a hard pill to swallow but people need to wake the fuck up and acknowledge what just happened. A Leninist-Bolshevik revolution just happened in the United States. Our government has been usurped by the banking cabal and their axis of evil. We are no longer citizens, we are subjects. There is no political solution. I'm still not convinced Roger Stone was wrong when he said the Trumps were Romanov'd. I believe congress are prisoners under threat of violence just like Hollywood. "If only they knew how bad it really was."
And where does Satan enter this picture. Are we to believe naively that these people are just bad? This is a spiritual war and demonic spirits are controlling these people.
The greatest trick the devil ever played was to fool people that he doesn’t exist.
Are we to believe naively that these people are just bad?
I don't think Satan's direct action is needed to tempt shitbag people into public office. It's difficult for honest people to make it because they're honest and the system selects against that, and it's easy for psychopaths because the system selects for it.
Satan doesn't need to be piloting around assholes like shikigami, he's much more sophisticated than that. He made a machine to bring them right to his door on their own volition.
If you have a mouse problem, do you go around catching all the mice individually, or do you just set up some traps and let the mice come to you?
In case people forgot, Cruz was a backstabbed in 2016.
When Trump won, Lyin’ Ted was rebranded Lion Ted because once you win you have to govern and work with your less venomous ally snakes against the more venomous opponent snakes.
Cruz is a snake who serves his uses, but he gets no reverence from me.
Thank you for this! I am one of the many that's so discouraged I wouldn't have read the article. Using the impeachment to discuss election fraud isn't deflection, it's integral to DJT's defense.
Absolutely! I'm so fucking sick of Republicans. We need another party immediately!!! Don't listen to doomers about splitting the vote. THEY are just afraid of losing power/money/influence
A third party would hand them control indefinitely. We need to take back the GOP primary everyone basically. From a pure numbers game we cannot go that route believe me I wish we could.
Honestly what has voting gop gotten us? I’d rather start a new party and build our base. I estimate 75% of the gop will leave the party and there are normal dems who would join. Voting for the gop is a waste they don’t represent us at all.
Our votes don’t matter anyway... For every vote a new party could get, the government could easily “find” twice as many fraudulent votes, down to a local level. I don’t think a new party is the solution here.
Soo not a doomer but I definitely think the vote will split. Those that are MAGA patriots and those that are RINOs. To quote some lady with cankles who won't shut up.... "at this point, what difference does it make" since nothing is being done to ensure election integrity for even 2022 elections?!
Right now is the time to make the Patriot Party, regardless of the split vote. That doesn't matter if things like Dominion can determine the vote anyways.
I agree it's time to throw that caution to the wind, although you're demonstrating not understanding the caution. It would be better if you understood it.
Woodrow Wilson signed the Fed and IRS into law, the single thing impacting us the worst now. None of our current problems would exist without that financial backing.
Wilson only got elected due to exactly the type of party split we're all proposing. It failed.
To succeed, we need to make the RNC the irrelevant 3rd party, and the Patriot party the main party. It's a tall order to make that happen by 2022, even if there were 0 fraud.
There are no parties. There are only ideologies. There are traitors and patriots, that is all. How a person tags himself is irrelevant - only action counts.
If you look at what he said, it's not quite as bad as most on this thread are making it out to be.
I totally disagree with Cruz on this, but you could easily interpret his words as saying the post election tactics weren't focused enough and were bad optics as a result.
I fully expect downvotes for this post, but am not ready to throw Cruz out just yet.
I think it would be wise to realize that he, like many others, are politicians. They can be very useful in some instances, but it is perhaps a mistake to expect them to be anything more than politicians.
The headline also says that President Trump never proved election fraud in any court, which is true, because the corrupt courts all refused to see the case.
Ima go out on a limb here and not defen Cruz but attempt politician splain this. One of the thing we love about Daddy Trump is that he doesn't do politician/lawyer speak. He says what he thinking is simple terms always and we can trust that he means what he says, no weasel words. To most politicians this is an anathema because they are mostly lawyers come to age in that world and taught to speak that way over knee of court decorum. Was it stupid for him to say this, yes. Was it wrong for a court presentation point of view, no. A good lawyer will always tell their client to shut the hell up and say nothing, a good client will listen. Here Cruse is using lawyer speak to say that his "client" is brash with his words but he is not wrong. I have been side eyeing cruze for some time and this almost turned from him till I actually listen and looked at it through the lense of a lawyer. We have to be careful to not kick our allies to the curb if they don't speak the way we want them too, especially when what they say is in agreement with us. There people out there trying to get us to turn on anyone that supports Trump so they can isolate them. The imposters among us that will attempt to subvet us and divide us. Be mindful.
Democrats do not treat any of their allies like this. We need to respect that our allies can have different view points. Our real allies push a Constitutional agenda and Cruz no doubt does that.
Democrats, on the other hand, try to get the weak RINOs on their side. The democrats don't care about what a RINO says or does... if they can get them to vote with them just a couple times, then they call off the media dogs. A democrat doesn't care about any decision a RINO makes, they only care about the NEXT decision. They will befriend Hitler if they feel he will push the Party's agenda... and it's because the Marxist party that has taken over the Democrats have absolutely no principles.
Constitutionalists, and most republicans, do not do that. We do care what people say, vote on, do, etc. But we cannot be all or nothing.... or all we will have is nothing.
The thing Cruz fails to understand is no one trusts these commissions and investigations. Too many people understand the Russia hoax investigation and Barr cover-up.
We know the election was stolen and we also know an "election commission" is nothing but another cover-up. If you listen to what Cruz and Knowles say about the commission the focus is on restoring the integrity of the election.
Cruz acknowledges election fraud and claims the commission would focus on looking at if fraud was sufficient enough to alter the outcome of the election.
If this was an honest commission Cruz would go on to explain what the process would be if sufficient evidence was found. He doesn't do that because he already knows the sole purpose of commissions/investigations in government is to control what is discover and what is covered up and that's way his focus is on restoring election integrity.
I have no problem with commissions as a concept and commissions are the language he knows. What we need to keep doing is pushing sunlight on these types of commissions. The secrecy has to end and the entire process made public in real time. We have learned the hard way we can't trust what we can't see and verify because that trust is gone. But we also can't dilute our selves into thinking these types of endeavors could be done with anything other than a fact finding or ivetigative commission. There simply isn't any other vehicle to get it done.
I don’t see how that’s relevant. Cruz thinks Trump repeatedly reminding us that we were being ripped off was reckless and irresponsible, so he(Cruz) didn’t join in.
Id like to be that optomistic. Something has happened to Cruz. Hard to know what it could be. I listened to his most recent Verdict podcast where he was wound up over #45. It was not rational. It was also a 180 as to where he normally sits on #45. I find it hard to believe its because he contested the 11/3/2020 election and made statement he won by a landslide. For Christs sakes, if you dont beleive the man ASK FOR EVIDENCE. Better yet, READ AND DIGEST the evidence. Even better hold a hearing to LISTEN TO the hundreds of people with sworn affidavits of voter fraud. Its not that difficult. This whole thing is beyond bizarre.
It's not that bizarre, it's just Ted being a fair weather friend. Remember all the things he said about Trump during the 2015 primaries? Even up to showing up at the convention and doing a speech about how he was better than Trump?
Ted's first 180 was that he ever supported Trump at all. And as soon as Trump got forced out, Ted was perfectly happy to 180 again. He's never been on our side, except, perhaps, in that he doesn't seem to be all-in on the cabal and can therefore play nice with whichever side is winning.
Are you this dull? You would support someone like this? This isn’t a court room it’s public opinion. Cruz is a typical politician a weak minded coward. He and others are the reason the dems are in power again.
I am going to see what he says in the future before I make my decision on whether he betrayed us or not. 4 years is a long time to see what he does. So far though, it's not looking good.
We have to be careful to not kick our allies to the curb
Good luck with that. I've noticed that that's the most popular thing to do around here. I'm pretty sure a lot of people here aren't patriots at all, but posers who are actually shillls or neocons.
Agreed, and this is what I have been saying all along. Trump lost 50+ times in Court, how many times can he lose is all I keep hearing. Having a case tossed out because of legal standing is a loss sure, but it was never presided over, so he did not lose in court. That's super disingenuous to suggest they are one and the same.
You cannot lose in court if you never got in the door to present IN THE COURTROOM. Thats the bottom line.
I will say one thing: SCOTUS did the American people a huge disservice by even suggesting Texas voters **AND **#45 had no standing to come before them in vote fraud 11/3/2020. That indicates the collusion in judicial system corruption right up to the top floor. If #45 ever wanted to demonstrate to the American people how bad things are in this country he couldnt have delivered a better example.
Sigh...you’re a shill idiot. Perhaps someone can read this to you for comprehension:
Starting at the 16:52 mark of the January 25th, 2021 episode of Verdict with Ted Cruz, Senator Ted Cruz states the following:
“President Trump’s rhetoric, I think, went way too far over the line. I think it was both reckless and irresponsible because he said repeatedly—and he said over and over again—he won by a landslide; there was massive fraud; it was all stolen everywhere. That evidence, the campaign did not prove that in any court, and to make a determination about an election it has to be based on the evidence, and so simply saying the result you want, that’s not responsible and you’ve never heard me use language like that. What I’ve said is voter fraud is real, and we need to examine the evidence, and look at the actual facts; and in particular, what is the evidence of how much voter fraud occurred, and did it occur in sufficient quantities and in sufficient states to alter the outcome of the election. That would have been the mandate of the election commission; to assess.”
I think the only major politician who has not flip flopped on Trump has been Matt Gaetz. The second I see a flip flop I know they are just playing political games.
Yes, I looked at what Cruz actually said....and I've also looked at the evidence with my own fucking eyes. I don't give a shit if it was never allowed to be presented in to our completely corrupt courts....I used my own fucking eyes and brain.
I do not need the governments stamp of approval before believing completely unrefuted video, photographic, and statistical evidence. It was not proven in court means fuck all, it was not disproven either.
What does any of that have to do with Cruz said? Cruz said he agrees with Trump, just not his rhetoric. Cruz is not refuting that there was voter fraud.
You're not comprehending what Cruz said. Others here break it down. It's courtroom / lawyer / politician speak, which DJT never does.
Cruz merely rephrased what DJT said, tuning it for his audience. He's fighting for Trump. Not the way I would, not the way I'd like to see him; but he's fighting for DJT.
Why does Cruz and Republicans in general keep trying to "meet in the middle" and appease the socialist left? He should be calling out someone like AOC for being a psycho bitch and a liar. I almost have more respect for her for telling him off. Their side takes no quarter.
I don’t think he’s trying to meet in the middle nor appease the socialist left. He believes that repeatedly reminding us that we were being ripped off was reckless and irresponsible, and pointless since it should be a matter for the courts.
He objected to the electoral college even after the capitol incident, he's repeatedly said there was voter fraud, he offered to argue the SCOTUS case, etc etc. Is that cucked?
Well to now say publicly that the president is responsible for the capital riots and to say that trump was irresponsible in my opinion is turning his back on us. So yes. Cucked
Y'all can't make your mother fucking minds up what y'all want..... if he had talked the talk and not voted you would have said the same exact thing, and voting is supposed to be his ultimate power to walk the walk, and he voted with us and then gave a personal opinion about what he had seen so far at that point - and where I'm also sure that the context of listening to that entire segment is also important, but of course he will be crucified over a snippet of the segment....
Clearly he thought he saw enough evidence of fraud to at least stop the process and examine everything because that's exactly how he voted even after the "riots"....
Some of y'all are no better than the left with your cancel culture faggotry
President Trump’s rhetoric, I think, went way too far over the line. I think it was both reckless and irresponsible because he said repeatedly—and he said over and over again—he won by a landslide; there was massive fraud; it was all stolen everywhere. That evidence, the campaign did not prove that in any court, and to make a determination about an election it has to be based on the evidence, and so simply saying the result you want, that’s not responsible and you’ve never heard me use language like that.
He'd suck anyone's scrotum and lick anyone's perineum as long as he's getting something out of it. Remember he was trashing Mr. Trump and later he was on his knees in front of him.
Well, that was just a really long soliloquy for Ted Cruz to say he isn't MAGA, which I already knew, and that he is on the other side, which I have believed since he accidentally overlooked to mention the 600K low interest loan his wife had from Goldman Sachs in 2015.
His argument is like saying there's no evidence of electromagnetism because the courts have refused to hear a debate about it.
Guess what, Ted? It doesn't matter what the fucking courts do. You know and I know and you and I both know that we both know this election was stolen. To say otherwise is gaslighting your electorate.
Actually watch the video, at least 1-2 minutes. He spends 15+ minutes saying that we haven't had an investigation or day in court, and makes the case that we NEED that investigation and day in court. He's literally agreeing with us.
That’s not his argument at all. He said Trump team didn’t prove the fraud in court. But voter fraud is real, and Americans deserve investigation. Hence he objected. He didn’t deny voter fraud.
The video is in the article. Ted Cruz spends about 15 minutes arguing for why we need a real investigation, and a real day in court to present the evidence.
The article Title suggests he's gaslighting MAGA, but that's absolutely NOT the case if you watch a few minutes of the video.
Watch the video. The article is misleading. At least 1-2 minutes. Ted Cruz is literally making the case for why we need a real investigation and day in court for the election fraud. Ted Cruz even says there WAS fraud.
I used to be a Cruz supporter back before 2016. Watching his behavior, hearing his statements, and seeing who he was associating with during his presidential campaign soured me on him, like it did most people here. I know many thought he had a strong redemption arc over the past few years, but the guy would still often end up demonstrating evidence of the same cuckservative behavior that he displayed back in 2016, so he never regained my support or trust. This latest from him is actually more expected than a surprise. I would never vote for Cruz even if we had fair elections.
Yep... GEOTUS gave him the correct name starting in the 2016 debates. He changed it to “Lion” during Ted’s opportunistic MAGA phase. The guy is a snake.
Like Lindsey he’d jump on the bandwagon to garner support and say a lot of MAGA things, but in the end he’s still the fork-tounged Ted we know from that amazing primary. Lyin’ Ted “Vote your conscience” Cruz.
Once he saw DJT ousted Lyin Ted went right back to his true self. It’s kinda like a poem often recited at Trump rallies.
I knew he was a scumbag when he blamed Trump for the leftist violence at Trump's Chicago rally in 2016.
Cruz made sure the media didn't have to do it. He thought he would curry favor with the media by doing their lying and gaslighting for them. He made sure they would be able to say "Ted Cruz says 'Trump's inflammatory rhetoric caused all this violence.'"
Great read. I love how it’s from May and would just now finally red pill normal Americans. Worth a share. Love the George Carlin clip at the end as well.
You’re a fool. Gateway Pundit is clickbait?
Ted Cruz said:
“President Trump’s rhetoric, I think, went way too far over the line. I think it was both reckless and irresponsible because he said repeatedly—and he said over and over again—he won by a landslide; there was massive fraud; it was all stolen everywhere. That evidence, the campaign did not prove that in any court, and to make a determination about an election it has to be based on the evidence, and so simply saying the result you want, that’s not responsible and you’ve never heard me use language like that. What I’ve said is voter fraud is real, and we need to examine the evidence, and look at the actual facts; and in particular, what is the evidence of how much voter fraud occurred, and did it occur in sufficient quantities and in sufficient states to alter the outcome of the election. That would have been the mandate of the election commission; to assess.”
I think it was both reckless and irresponsible because he said repeatedly—and he said over and over again—he won by a landslide; there was massive fraud; it was all stolen everywhere. That evidence, the campaign did not prove that in any court, and to make a determination about an election it has to be based on the evidence, and so simply saying the result you want, that’s not responsible and you’ve never heard me use language like that.
Kindly explain how this was "taken way out of context".
The video of which they quote is linked directly in the article. You're doing exactly what you're criticizing them for - unverified bullshit. Criticizing all new sources should be done, but don't be so completely stupid with your critique. You're a fucking moron.
Its only value is as an occasional way of finding an original source for a story - but then I work with that original source, not the Gateway Pundit misrepresentation of it.
I mean, declaring that Cruz is a traitor because he didn't get on his knees and fellate your favourite President doesn't help with the credibility here.
This is exactly that. He's trying to unify multiple groups. We won't win with a hardliner. Not right now.
Maybe when they come out with the gun grab in a few months and people start getting shot by cops in their homes on an hourly basis, but until then, it won't happen.
It is a tag team effort. Trump riles people up about voter fraud so that the topic stays relevant. Guys like Cruz go over how it needs to be proven so that it actually gets done. You can't just say "it was rigged" really loudly. You have to have guys like Cruz that actually wanted make sure the Trump team get the chance to show their evidence to congress.
Taken out of context. He completely agrees with him in the same episode. Stop trying to think everyone is out against 45–Cruz has been one of his most loyal supporters and if he at anytime would betray him it would have been during his election contests while in office. Listen to his podcast to hear his full story and please don’t fall for clickbait. All he is trying to do is unite those on the right around improving election security and attacking any fraud and irregularities found.
Cruz says a lot of dumb shit because he's a careerist who makes his next move based on the crowd, not based on some hardened belief in Trump and America.
He'd gotten about 10 senators to agree to a delay in order to convene a bipartisan group but when they were about to propose it, that's when the breach happened, and it was the BREACH that made those who agreed that they should appoint a committee, decide maybe they shouldn't.
A lot of it made me cringe but his most recent podcast explains what happened.
Some of yall dumb as hell. Unless you're criticizing those who changed their minds, in which case I sincerely apologize.
Attacking Ted Cruz, the one who tried to put the committee together, is not going going get us anywhere and will give those Lincoln pervs lulz.
He's a politician, yes. Maybe he should be less of a politician and more of a fighter, but people need to maybe focus on that instead of whining and saying, "No vote for you no more."
Did you watch at least 1-2 minutes of the video? Ted Cruz is literally making the case for why we need a real investigation into the election fraud that actually happened, and that we didn't have our day in court.
Gateway Pundit is not on the MAGA side. They are on the side of making money off of our anger. They post titles like this because they know it will piss us off.
He says in the video that it was not proven in court which is the same leftist talking point. All of Trumps lawsuits were dismissed on technicalities including the ones filed by independent voters. The court simply refused to look at the merit, spare me with that bs.
Yes, I know what he said. But soon after that statement, he goes on to say the reason for that is because we've never been ALLOWED to present the evidence in court. He's literally in the middle of a 15+ minute segment arguing there was fraud, and we need a real investigation, a real court-case, and we haven't gotten it.
Can you please watch the video? Cruz is literally arguing for MAGA and for Trump in 95% of the video. I'm not interested in debate, you can literally just watch the video. Watch at least 1-2 minutes.
Soon after he goes into how (1) there was fraud (2) there was no investigation and (3) there was no opportunity to present evidence, and (4) we need that investigation and legit court case.
Literally just watch the video, he makes that exact point you're asserting he's avoiding.
Did you watch at least 1-2 minutes of the video? Ted Cruz is literally making the case for why we need a real investigation into the election fraud that actually happened, and that we didn't have our day in court.
And CNN posted a video of Trump saying there were very fine people on both sides in Charlottesville. Do we just believe videos now that cut off all context?
Yes, people need to watch out for fake news on "our" side too. People don't realize that news are a business, clickbait bullshit like this will divide us and make us easier targets.
I listened to the podcast in question and yeah, it sounds like he did. Politics is the art of the possible and without blackmailing, bribing, or using threats of violent retribution he did. The other side did all three and won. Kinda makes ya think.
Well hold on now. Do we even trust the people's will anymore? What if it is "the people's will" to abandon capitalism in favor of Communism? We have shown that so many people are not even worthy of expressing an opinion and certainly not capable or worthy of voting. I would agree with you if we were to define 'by and for the people'. For the people, no issue. By the people, certainly not all of them should be involved as has been made abundantly clear.
I am too dumb to really know the difference. You seem to have a more nuanced way of describing things. I think what I want is "the peoples will" at this point. Too much stupid shit has taken place, I dont remember how to be reasonable anymore.
He was never a never Trumper. Idk what you are talking about. There was a few months after the primaries where he wouldn't comment on things related to Trump, but he was not a never Trumper. He literally endorsed Trump.
That website is such garbage. They were one of the biggest pushers of "arrests tomorrow hopium" nonsense. I'm embarrassed that website is still posted here.
Yeah, his "committee" so that he doesn't have to take responsibility for his vote. That is simply more evidence of his cowardice.
He lies and gaslights and misrepresents events throughout this video, as he has mostly done throughout his career.
And it wasn't even enough that he makes excuses for his cowardice in changing his tune because of "the breach" (which does not excuse it).
He also gaslights viewers, using the Democrat talking point that Trump "couldn't win in any court" while omitting the fact that the mountain of damning evidence of millions of votes being manufactured, thrown out, and changed was systematically suppressed by all those courts.
Gateway's characterization of Cruz's comments here is accurate.
I don't get why people give anyone who was in the Senate pre-2016 the benefit of the doubt. Hell, even the ones elected post-2016 - with the sole exception of Hawley - are sketchy at best. And even Hawley could turn on us at any point.
That's fine by me. I am willing to give Hawley and Gaetz the benefit of the doubt because they've been solid thus far - but they lose my support the second they turn on us.
Anyone doing that in this community is not from this community. They are not MAGA. They are ‘republicans’ who like the establishment. The Tedcucks are losers who came to TD because they heard it was where the winning movement was centered, and they came to inject their loserthink into our discussion. Sadly, they weren’t chased out of town because the mods liked the traffic and thought more people on a message board is unilaterally a good thing.
Tedcucks are the reason we weren’t as powerful in 2020. They diluted the discussion. They are complacent by their very nature. They are establishment serfs by their very nature. They should have been shunned from the very beginning. They should be ridiculed and purged now.
President Trump’s rhetoric, I think, went way too far over the line. I think it was both reckless and irresponsible because he said repeatedly—and he said over and over again—he won by a landslide; there was massive fraud; it was all stolen everywhere. That evidence, the campaign did not prove that in any court, and to make a determination about an election it has to be based on the evidence, and so simply saying the result you want, that’s not responsible and you’ve never heard me use language like that. What I’ve said is voter fraud is real, and we need to examine the evidence, and look at the actual facts; and in particular, what is the evidence of how much voter fraud occurred, and did it occur in sufficient quantities and in sufficient states to alter the outcome of the election. That would have been the mandate of the election commission; to assess.
Actually watch the video for a 1-2 minutes. Him criticizing rhetoric is among a 15+ minute segment of him advocating for a real investigation of the election fraud.
I don't agree with everything Ted said, but he spends 95% of the segment advocating for what all of us have been screaming for ... a REAL INVESTIGATION.
Why did Trump think it was a horrific attack. I agree that our senators need to do more independent research, but it's pretty obvious they've all been lied to. Including Trump.
Remember when Trump denounced the Proud Boys, despite acknowledging he didn't know anything about them? I hate to say it, but most of congress knows way less about the events at the capital (despite being there) than the average person whose spent time investigating it independently, like most of us here.
I am so fucking pissed this was stickied. You literally only have to watch the video to realize it's out of context, and not as bad as the title suggests.
Yes, Cruz critiques the "rhetoric" in the middle of a 15+ minute segment about why we need a REAL investigation of the election fraud, and that we haven't had it yet.
Cruz is one of the only ones who did take a stand, and one of those only ones who continues to take a stand. Sure he could have done a little more on the 6th, but he did more than practically anyone else did that day, including Rand Paul.
It's not because Cruz didn't take a stand, it's because all the rest of the Republicans pussied out. Cruz is still fighting for a meaningful investigation to this day, and if you watch the video, that's exactly what Cruz does in the video.
Realistically, no other senator has done half of what Cruz has around the election challenge. Some house members have, but no senator.
You are right, maybe not. But just posting on here definitely doesn’t work. I won’t fool myself into believing a couple emails will make his heart grow like the Grinch, but it’s better than nothing.
Dude thinks he has a shot in 2024 because he thinks Trump is out of the picture.
Cruz’ popularity dipped HUGE during the primaries to the point where he almost lost his seat to Gun Grabber O’Rourke. It wasn’t until after that he started kissing ass.
Hahahaha it didn’t take that long before the rino reset button was hit. Remember when folks on here were asking why Cruz didn’t sign on to the Hawley rejection? Some of us reminded you that Cruz was the controlled GOPistion to quell the rage. With the exception of a very few everyone in DC is a traitor all around.
Watch a 1-2 minutes of the video at least. It's a criticism of "rhetoric" in the middle of a 15+ minute segment about why we need a REAL investigation of election fraud, and that we haven't had one yet.
That's almost exactly what Ted says later in the video. The article is very misleading. Ted spends 15+ minutes making the case for why we need an investigation, and if you only focus on that sentence, you'd he he was gaslighting us.
Ted is a politician through and through. He jumped on the Trump train because he recognized a winner. He only objected to try and curb what Hawley was doing. Cruz is like a Mitch McConnell, out for himself and main goal is self promotion.
I thought he would be smarter. Trump’s republican approval has been 90%+ for the longest time. Thought he wouldn’t be so out of touch and would support the MAGA agenda. Instead, he chose to lose the Trump base and dems already hate him. Idiot move
You nailed it. Cruz is an elite politician - he will go where he thinks it will benefit him the most. He zigs and zags like the rest of them. Nobody who knows Trump, watches Trump, understands Trump and SUPPORTS Trump would've ever accepted the premise that Trump ever called on people to be violent. The fact that so many of these guys bent the knee to even remotely accept that narrative shows their true colors...
Watch the actual video. It's a critique of rhetoric, in the middle of a much longer segment of him making a case for why we need a REAL investigation of election fraud. The article is misleading.
Ted is literally making the case that we need a REAL investigation, and that we haven't had our day in court. This article focuses on a few seconds of critique in the middle of that big-ass segment where Ted Cruz is literally arguing for exactly what MAGA has been demanding these last few months.
Man I hate the republican party. Support them at election time and they turn on you. Give them money and they turn on you. They will never give a straight answer. They only work for their clients and that does NOT include the American people. I dont see how the gop can be worked with. Lucy will always pull the football away. They will always treat Trump like shit. Patriots Party or bust.
This. So many fake MAGA cringe reactionaries here. I'm gonna vomit. I thought we were better than the left but thousands of us apparently eat this kind of bs up...
You should like a leftist cuck calling shit "dangerous" when it's literally quoting what he said. I sure as fuck hope I don't get stuck in the trenches with a pussy like you.
Watch at least 1-2 minutes of the video. Ted Cruz spends a long segment arguing for MAGA, and a REAL investigation and court-case for the election fraud, and that we haven't had it yet. Ted Cruz also says there was fraud.
Do you want to throw one of our few allies under the bus who is arguing in favor of our case, who is one of the only ones to actually contest the election? Who cares if he critiques Trump's rhetoric (style) for a few seconds amongst a 15-minute clip of him arguing we need a real day in court.
Please watch the video, don't jump to conclusions.
The guy you responded to is CORRECT. Watch the video linked, at least 1-2 minutes of it. Ted spent a few seconds critiquing "rhetoric" in the middle of a 15+ minute segment of him talking about why we need a REAL investigation.
TheGatewayPundit is the traitor. Watch at least 1-2 minutes. Ted Cruz makes a 15+ minute argument for why we need a REAL investigation and a day in court for the election fraud. Ted Cruz also says there definitely was fraud.
Yeah, I don't like Ted's comments on rhetoric (style), but almost everyone critique's Trump's style. Ted is literally fighting for EXACTLY what we've been demanding these last few months, lets not throw him under the bus for a few off-hand comments in the middle of him fighting strongly for us.
I could also make the argument that Ted knows there will never be a REAL investigation, or a "day in court" (which they say has already occurred), so this could just be lip-service to help maintain credibility while trying to separate Trump from his base.
Any assertion that Trump is responsible for what occurred inside the capitol building is tantamount to treason. "Treason" aside, it ignores all notions of common sense, encouraging people to denounce the concept of personal responsibility, and accountability. (Which politicians love-- just blame Trump!)
Those people made a decision to enter the capitol building. Whether or not they committed a crime is a separate discussion. But their defense cannot be that Trump told them to do it, because he didn't.
I will take your comments to heart, but Cruz's election fraud commentary seems hollow, if he is going to blame Trump for whatever happened inside the Capitol Building.
Wow, Cruz whining about TRUMP's comment as reckless and irresponsible goes on to do exactly that. I'm only 1/2 way through the video. Cruz is explaining the events on the 6st where they were escorted from the floor of the senate to a secure location and they were horrified at watching "terrorist" taking over the capital!!! Someone flips the channel to CNN and Tapper was labeling those who were set to object as the "sedition caucus".
Am I the only one who is pissed at labeling ALL the people who stepped in the capital as "terrorist"? Cruz doesn't think his comments doing just that are reckless and irresponsible? We all have seen the videos where people were in someways being herded into the capital and many went in not knowing what was going on and were just moving with the crowd. These people are not f-ing terrorist or rioters!!! People like Cruz are to much of f-ing coward to defend these people and say the focus should be on those involved who were controlling the movement of the crowd and inciting violence. along with why there was little to no security of the capital during the rally.
Fuck Cruz...Nothing wrong with what Trump said. They have the evidence to at least justify an audit. Even the average joe has enough evidence to prove it.
Watch the actual video. The comment about Trump's rhetoric is only a few seconds,, in the middle of Ted Cruz spending 15+ minutes advocating for a REAL investigation of election fraud, and says there WAS fraud.
Please don't be so quick to say "fuck Cruz" when he's one of the very FEW people who is fighting for MAGA. I'm sickened to see MAGA attacking one of our last allies and advocates in the Senate.
“The president’s language and rhetoric often goes too far. I think, yesterday in particular, the president’s language and rhetoric crossed the line and it was reckless,” Cruz said in an interview with ABC13 Houston.
He's directly talking about the 6th. Trump said nothing wrong. What more do you need to realize that Cruz decide to play politics because he wants to win 2024. He knows there's no chance if Trump can run 2024
For sure, Cruz definitely plays politics in a diplomatic way. Criticizing Trumps rhetoric is popular. And criticizing Cruz for not telling the WHOLE truth (or not being aware of it) is valid.
Trump did say nothing wrong on the 6th, or at least I have not seen a single clip yet of him saying anything even remotely close to wrong.
I still think Cruz is one of the best allies we have for now. If we can get even better allies, I'm 100% behind that, but until then Ted Cruz has been far more consistent in supporting us than anyone else in the Senate.
No he's a fucking rat. Ted knows exactly what he's doing. He knows Trump said nothing wrong in the nov 6th speech. Yet he has the audacity to claim a line was crossed. Sorry I live in Texas and will not stand for it. He fucked up.
Watch the video. This article is misleading. Just 1-2 minutes. It's few seconds of critique of rhetoric in the middle of a 15+ minute segment about why we need a REAL investigation of election fraud.
Remember Ted was one of the only ones to stand up for Trump's election contest, and that hasn't changed.
Told yall!!! No one listened. He's a snake a charloton. A fucking scumbag lawyer. We were all on his dick, and guess what we got fucked. Never forget his treatment of Ben Carson. Never forget. I will do everything in my power to make sure hes never reelected.
That's fine. But I'm telling you to watch the video. Ted Cruz is making a 15+ minute argument for why we need a real investigation of election fraud, that there was fraud, and that we need a real day in court.
Ted Cruz isn't pure MAGA, sure, but he's one of the few people who've put his ass on the line for Trump in this election contest, and still continues to do so today.
I don't think what he said was that bad. He stated that evidence wasn't proven in courts, that's true since courts didn't even hear the cases. I don't think he was bashing Trump.
I'm getting pretty fecking tired of the "no fraud was proven in any court" when EVERYBODY knows that not one court case has actually looked at any evidence.
There is a mountain of STATISTICAL PROOF from numerous experts, proof SCOTUS chose to deny existed because the cowards on that bench would rather hand our country over to traitors than risk more riots(riots which have yet to even cease). He was probably promised a presidential run if he turned on us.
Watch the video, because that's what Ted says in the video. That courts haven't seen the evidence yet, and that we haven't had a real investigation, or real case.
I'm with the other pedes casting long doubts on Gateway Pundit. Cruz does not automatically get the benefit of the doubt from me, but Gateway's spun a lot of stuff skewed and after the election they were nonstop hopium. I appreciate their commitment to MAGA but I don't consider them a trusted source.
Watch the video, it's in the article. About 1-2 minutes will do. The article is misleading, and implies Ted is gaslighting us and that there's no fraud.
In fact, what's actually in the video is Ted Cruz spending 15+ minutes making the case that we need a REAL investigation, and real court-case, and that the investigation hasn't happened yet.
This is my problem with Gateway. Even if you attribute the best of intentions they're practicing clickbait, not journalism, looking at only the surface of everything.
I can't count the number of sensationalized, poorly sourced, or hopium "arrests tomorrow, trust the plan" style articles I've seen from TheGatewayPundit over the last few months on my finger, toes, plus that of my entire family's fingers and toes.
I'm hoping that now since it's obvious the hoping was always full of shit, that we can start curating some of the content that is really just misleading us and making us put efforts on the wrong places. This article is extra disgusting though, because it's causing MAGA to attack one of our best allies. And yes, Cruz is not pure-MAGA, but he's one of the best we've got at the moment.
When we actually get some better MAGA in the senate, then by all means I'm behind that.
What a fucking moron... maybe, just maybe, if the courts allowed for presenting evidence than maybe it wouldn’t have been so wreck less or irresponsible?? Cruz... BIG talker, looking for attention... just a trick pony, that’s about all he is
I will... the fact that he is all talk for attention and very little action says it all... look what happened with Sec230... he was a BIG advocate and griller towards big tech but hey, big tech won... look what happened with him defending Trump... well, you guessed it... he retracts... look at him wearing a “come and take it” mask... “Oh how direct that message is” he says and does ANYTHING to bring attention to himself. That’s ALL he is good at.
A perfect example would be like that super hot popular girl in Highschool... she’s super hot, always wants attention, and probably fun in bed... but other than those qualities, she is useless otherwise
Just like this whole Enrique Tarrio thing, we are dealing with some serious misinformation.
He has said he disagreed with the president saying some of the stuff he said without the courts having come to their conclusions.
He has said time and time again "muh anomalies," and believes that they should have been dealt with in court but he's not lying. He's being a politician, so judge him on that, not on this poor reporting from Gateway Pundit.
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So in one breath you say "cruz believed trump" and in the next "cruz doesn't believe it was proven." Lol.
I stopped listening to this dickhead a long time ago. Listening to Mitch McConnell Lite isn't for me. Just doing the spineless politician bullshit. Not standing on principal. Just weaseling around to try and cover his ass
No. Ted Cruz is saying that the evidence hasn't been presented in court because we've been denied that opportunity. And that a real investigation hasn't happened because we've been denied that opportunity as well.
Actually watch the video, because that critique about "rhetoric" is in the middle of a LONG segment where he's advocating FOR us having that court-case, that investigation, and everything we've been asking for. Don't throw our best ally in the senate under the bus over a headline.
Watch it again and listen carefully! You stupid faggots! Your language is English yet you dont understand what he's saying? Go to Patriots.stupid not here we dont need stupid folks here!
Here what he says:
What I’ve said is voter fraud is real, and we need to examine the evidence, and look at the actual facts; and in particular, what is the evidence of how much voter fraud occurred, and did it occur in sufficient quantities and in sufficient states to alter the outcome of the election. That would have been the mandate of the election commission; to assess.”
Fuck this article, it's misleading. Watching the video.
What the FUCK on stickying this without actually taking a CLOSE look at the FULL context of the video. He spends 95% of the video making a case for why we need an investigation, and that there hasn't been one yet, nor a real court case yet. So what if he made a few small critiques of Trumps "rhetoric."
It really pisses me off that we're so easily mislead into attacking our allies. Wake the fuck up people. Sure, I don't agree with everything Cruz said, but people PLEASE stop being mislead by headlines or short quotes.
Remember the whole Q-anon movement existed and was super-popular right up until about Jan 21st. Only NOW do I not get mass-downvoted for calling out hopium lies. 'Trust the plan" ... by sitting behind your keyboard geeking out over shit that never happens.
I'll keep speaking the truth, whatever that truth may be.
You'd think after the "Fine People" hoax, that people might realize that you absolutely must very careful believing short clips or headlines, especially ones written about conservatives.
And TheGatewayPundit doesn't exactly have a very reliable track-record. I'm just a little surprised to see them writing a hit-piece against one of MAGA's few allies in government.
LYIN’ TED!!! The long knives are out!! Beware Patriots MAGA!🇺🇸🦁🐸
Between him amd crenshaw...texas needs to pick better representation
Except the article is misleading. Watch a few minutes of the video. At least 1-2 minutes. This quote is him critiquing rhettoric (style) in the middle of a LONG segment about why we need a real investigation, and real court case to examine the evidence, and that we've been denied that so far. Ted Cruz is literally making our case for us.
He's packaging it from a more "moderate" stance to not scare the normies, but in that podcast he's literally doing EXACTLY what we've all been asking for.
I'm SO FUCKING PISSED at TheGatewayPundit for pulling this shit out of context, in order to attack one of MAGA's few remaining allies in the Senate. If we throw Ted Cruz under the bus for critiquing mere "rhettoric" when he's literally the #1 fighter for Trump in the senate right now, we might as well give up entirely.
Yes, I want more 100% MAGA people in government and wish we had better. But where are these better people? I'll take a Ted Cruz who is about 90% MAGA, call him out when he fucks up, but does a better job than 99% of the Senate.
Until we get MAGA in the senate, lets stop throwing people under the bus for a couple second segment among a 15+ minute argument about why we need to actually investigate the 2020 election,
This right here is why we’ll never be the “echo chamber” the left likes to claim we are.
Great post.
Cruz is a politician.
He also was our best and only chance of getting Trump a second term on January 6, with his 10-day audit plan.
Antifa/BLM and Qtards threw that all down the drain with the asinine and criminal Capitol invasion.
Blame the retards who sabotaged Trump (including some here), not Cruz.
Moronic. What happened at the Capitol was a stage play. Millions stood on the front lawn, singing protest songs and holding placards. A few dozen entered the building, and walked around. No one on the side of the government was killed because of anything that happened that day. Two police officers died under mysterious circumstances afterward. I wonder why that happened?
Probably the same reason four of our newly minted MAGA congressmen died just after being elected.
Probably the same reason the Clintons have a trail of bodies behind them.
The congressional vote afterward had nothing to do with a few people taking a tour of the Capitol building after the police put forward a token effort in keeping them out. The same people who voted in a fraudulently elected president were the same people behind the toothless "riot."
We have to stop infighting. Anyone who stood up like ted did deserves some faith. Stop fighting each other.
I don't conceded that anything Trump said or did was reckless or irresponsible. Anyone trying to package it that way for the normies is a surrender monkey who IS ACCEPTING THE LEFT'S PREMISE.
No way, no how, should Cruz or any Republican concede that Trump was reckless or irresponsible when talking about the FACT that they STOPPED COUNTING VOTES WHEN THINGS WERE NOT GOING THEIR WAY.
They literally STOLE an election are trying to pretend the guy who didn't "quietly accept" that is the bad one in the scenario.
But you're correct, GP is a click bait asshole who often quotes things out of context.
Cruz is mostly critiquing the the rhetoric (style), or at least that's my take listening to the audio.
I agree that Trump won in a landslide, I've seen the evidence myself which is clear as day, and doesn't require relying on any of the more fantastical or unproven claims. Literally election night I was founding a few hundred-thousand Biden only votes in states, where president-only votes don't happen historically.
I don't think telling the truth is irresponsible. So I do dissagree with Cruz on that point. But it's not the level of critique or Trump bashing that the article makes it out to be.
Did Cruz actually label DJT as irresponsible?
He said it was irresponsible to claim that he won big before proving it in the courts first, that’s pretty much it.
That's just two competing styles but the saying goes. The squeaky wheel is the one who gets the oil. You either be loud and complain or you get forced to submit. Trump fights while Cruz tries to find a more even handed approach.
So basically he's being a cowardly, feckless lawyer afraid to call a spade a spade.
Trump didn't perform the ceremony in a court of law to get his statements declared "proven" so it's irresponsible of him to say those things! Nevermind that a) Trump isn't a lawyer and b) the entire judicial system is known at this point to be riddled with corruption.
This is why I loath lawyers. Judicial zealotry is a luxury we can only afford when the country is free of corruption. I for one won't be voting for this fightless, booger-eating turd in the primary. I'd rather elect a ham sandwich over Cruz.
Thanks. That's way different than saying Trump's claims or speech promoted violence.
We'd all like for election fraud and DJT victory to have been proven in the Courts. Never got the chance. Laches don't you know ...
Also, by presenting a case in Court, you're making a "claim." So Cruz sux balls here, but is still defending Trump as far as I can see.
He's not saying Trump himself is irresponsible. He made a short comment about how specific statements were irresponsible. in particular claiming he had won in a landslide. Based on my view of the evidence, Trump did win in a landslide. And that's based on EVIDENCE, and not vague kracken, or q-anon style stuff that's vague with weak support.
So I dissagree with Cruz's statement, but he's not really bashing Trump that harshly.
For example, I could say the manner in which Cruz worded his critique in those few seconds was irresponsible, but it's not really the same as me accusing Cruz of being irresponsible in general. Cruz is 90% to 95% on our side, which I'll take over nearly everyone else in DC.
Thanks. This is known as quote mining, what the article did. I agree 100% with your assessment. I could apologize for Cruz further, saying he's merely re-stating what Trump said, fine tuning it for his audience.
We'll really know when we see how Cruz votes on impeachment. I think it should be tossed, just like the last one.
I took Cruz's comments on rhetoric did criticize Trump, but the overall interview is Pro-Trump. And the GP click bait pissed off a lot of people I know!
I agree. I don't want Cruz or any other conservative giving an inch. The strongest possible language should be used at every opportunity. Any less than that is illustrating complicity in the fraud. We played by the rules while they overtly stole the damn thing. THEY should be walking on pins and needles, not us.
Personally, I don't trust Cruz. It's clear he's one of the rehearsed politicians that jumped over all the proper establishment hurdles to become a DC insider. We need homegrown politicians that proved their conservative, anti-globalist chops BEFORE entering office. And preferably, no more Ivy League assholes. I'll take a guy with a degree from a community college over one from Harvard at this point. Any day of the week.
Yup. Trump said he won big, cause he had to. If he had been quiet like Cruz is saying, no one would know otherwise. He had to speak out, as he was the only one doing it. Trump also knew court of public opinion, especially when it comes to something the media and now courts wont hear or talk about, is especially important when you are trying to be silenced.
Cruz isn't stupid, he knows this. He's saying just enough to be "critical" of Trump, but not enough to throw off any stupid plebs into not voting him back in office, which they will. He waited until dozens of courts threw cases out the window on 'technicalities' before he started saying anything about needing investigations. We had investigations, we got the evidence, we don't need more investigations, we need courts and trials now. But of course, he isn't pushing for that. Just like before the 6th, and 2 hours after the "siege", in those 2 hours he completely forgot about the 10 day investigation he was pushing.
Like everything else he's done over the past 4 years, he's talk. He's all talk, he never actually does anything. 90% MAGA is still a 10% RINO. And a RINO is a RINO.
u/fuckrioters is asserting that Cruz didn't concede DJT did anything reckless or irresponsible. Do you disagree with his assessment?
Cruz makes a short comment, suggesting the rhetoric (style) around winning in a landslide was irresponsible. However, it's not quite the level of bashing trump that the article and title suggests. His tone of voice is mostly "trump did X, y, z which wasn't ideal, but..."
But that's only a few seconds of critique, when he spends 15+ minutes laying out the case that there was fraud, and that we need an investigation and day in court, and that we never got that.
So for example, I might say Cruz's wording in that particular comment was irresponsible, but that critique is only about Cruz's specific comments those few seconds, and not about Cruz in general or what he says during the wider 15 minutes.
I watched about 15 minutes of the clip, and Cruz spends 95% of it arguing on our behalf, and the other 5% saying things that mildly annoy me. I don't agree with Trump all the time either, so unless we're expecting puritans, the podcast taken in it's entirety is something we should be very happy about ... that Cruz is still fighting for us.
Instead, MAGA was tricked into bashing one of our few allies for a few comments that were out of place.
Nope. None of this matters. Cruz is a traitor. Want your mind blown? So is Rand Paul. Not a single senator objected to Georgia. Not one senator stood up and did the right thing. ZERO! We will forever vote for ceremonial purposes only. I know it's a hard pill to swallow but people need to wake the fuck up and acknowledge what just happened. A Leninist-Bolshevik revolution just happened in the United States. Our government has been usurped by the banking cabal and their axis of evil. We are no longer citizens, we are subjects. There is no political solution. I'm still not convinced Roger Stone was wrong when he said the Trumps were Romanov'd. I believe congress are prisoners under threat of violence just like Hollywood. "If only they knew how bad it really was."
Hahhaha no, they're just assholes that only care about themselves.
And where does Satan enter this picture. Are we to believe naively that these people are just bad? This is a spiritual war and demonic spirits are controlling these people.
The greatest trick the devil ever played was to fool people that he doesn’t exist.
I don't think Satan's direct action is needed to tempt shitbag people into public office. It's difficult for honest people to make it because they're honest and the system selects against that, and it's easy for psychopaths because the system selects for it.
Satan doesn't need to be piloting around assholes like shikigami, he's much more sophisticated than that. He made a machine to bring them right to his door on their own volition.
If you have a mouse problem, do you go around catching all the mice individually, or do you just set up some traps and let the mice come to you?
He's been around for a long long year ...
..."Stole million man's soul an faith"
Diversity of tactics, dude. Let Ted talk.
Did McConnell even permit time for objections after the first one? My memory is a little fuzzy.
In case people forgot, Cruz was a backstabbed in 2016.
When Trump won, Lyin’ Ted was rebranded Lion Ted because once you win you have to govern and work with your less venomous ally snakes against the more venomous opponent snakes.
Cruz is a snake who serves his uses, but he gets no reverence from me.
Can you explain "Trumps were Romanov'd?"
How long ago did Stone say this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Execution_of_the_Romanov_family
Thank you for this! I am one of the many that's so discouraged I wouldn't have read the article. Using the impeachment to discuss election fraud isn't deflection, it's integral to DJT's defense.
Listen to Cruz’s podcast, I highly recommend it.
Amen Brother!
I see he is hiding that Fu#%ing pie hole of his. Nice cover up beard!
Cruz was trying to win brownie points with muh squad what a cuck
They can’t do shit. He’s a pussy. The GOP are a bunch of pussies. This shit is embarrassing.
Absolutely! I'm so fucking sick of Republicans. We need another party immediately!!! Don't listen to doomers about splitting the vote. THEY are just afraid of losing power/money/influence
This. It may be painful at first, but in the long run, it'll pay off. New party NOW! I'm done voting R.
A third party would hand them control indefinitely. We need to take back the GOP primary everyone basically. From a pure numbers game we cannot go that route believe me I wish we could.
It would take a generation or more to gain ground.. In that time the democrats will have all but declared and seized a dictatorship
It will hand them the country for decades. They'll damage it beyond repair
Honestly what has voting gop gotten us? I’d rather start a new party and build our base. I estimate 75% of the gop will leave the party and there are normal dems who would join. Voting for the gop is a waste they don’t represent us at all.
Our votes don’t matter anyway... For every vote a new party could get, the government could easily “find” twice as many fraudulent votes, down to a local level. I don’t think a new party is the solution here.
Soo not a doomer but I definitely think the vote will split. Those that are MAGA patriots and those that are RINOs. To quote some lady with cankles who won't shut up.... "at this point, what difference does it make" since nothing is being done to ensure election integrity for even 2022 elections?!
Right now is the time to make the Patriot Party, regardless of the split vote. That doesn't matter if things like Dominion can determine the vote anyways.
Wait. State legislators all across the country are interested in securing future elections. You can contact ALL of them!
I agree it's time to throw that caution to the wind, although you're demonstrating not understanding the caution. It would be better if you understood it.
Woodrow Wilson signed the Fed and IRS into law, the single thing impacting us the worst now. None of our current problems would exist without that financial backing.
Wilson only got elected due to exactly the type of party split we're all proposing. It failed.
To succeed, we need to make the RNC the irrelevant 3rd party, and the Patriot party the main party. It's a tall order to make that happen by 2022, even if there were 0 fraud.
There are no parties. There are only ideologies. There are traitors and patriots, that is all. How a person tags himself is irrelevant - only action counts.
While I like your sentiment, it's not true. There are parties. And as long as Ronald McDonald is the head of the RNC, they are useless.
Totally agree. This may well be the end of both the Democrat and Republican Party. Now that I think on it, probably should be.
2016 shouldve been.
If you look at what he said, it's not quite as bad as most on this thread are making it out to be.
I totally disagree with Cruz on this, but you could easily interpret his words as saying the post election tactics weren't focused enough and were bad optics as a result.
I fully expect downvotes for this post, but am not ready to throw Cruz out just yet.
I think it would be wise to realize that he, like many others, are politicians. They can be very useful in some instances, but it is perhaps a mistake to expect them to be anything more than politicians.
Now he's going to lose it next election.
This is not new.
What role? Lmao he never really supported us in the first place.
Cuck
He was trying to get some of that AOC puss.
Bros (Trump) before commie hoes, and he failed the simplest of tests.
"Hey AOC, kewl tweet. Wanna stream Among Us together?"
great job defending liberals...we now know where you stand.
The fact that you say the capital was 'stormed' means you believe the msm narrative.
The headline also says that President Trump never proved election fraud in any court, which is true, because the corrupt courts all refused to see the case.
Ima go out on a limb here and not defen Cruz but attempt politician splain this. One of the thing we love about Daddy Trump is that he doesn't do politician/lawyer speak. He says what he thinking is simple terms always and we can trust that he means what he says, no weasel words. To most politicians this is an anathema because they are mostly lawyers come to age in that world and taught to speak that way over knee of court decorum. Was it stupid for him to say this, yes. Was it wrong for a court presentation point of view, no. A good lawyer will always tell their client to shut the hell up and say nothing, a good client will listen. Here Cruse is using lawyer speak to say that his "client" is brash with his words but he is not wrong. I have been side eyeing cruze for some time and this almost turned from him till I actually listen and looked at it through the lense of a lawyer. We have to be careful to not kick our allies to the curb if they don't speak the way we want them too, especially when what they say is in agreement with us. There people out there trying to get us to turn on anyone that supports Trump so they can isolate them. The imposters among us that will attempt to subvet us and divide us. Be mindful.
Absolutely, 100% correct.
Democrats do not treat any of their allies like this. We need to respect that our allies can have different view points. Our real allies push a Constitutional agenda and Cruz no doubt does that.
Democrats, on the other hand, try to get the weak RINOs on their side. The democrats don't care about what a RINO says or does... if they can get them to vote with them just a couple times, then they call off the media dogs. A democrat doesn't care about any decision a RINO makes, they only care about the NEXT decision. They will befriend Hitler if they feel he will push the Party's agenda... and it's because the Marxist party that has taken over the Democrats have absolutely no principles.
Constitutionalists, and most republicans, do not do that. We do care what people say, vote on, do, etc. But we cannot be all or nothing.... or all we will have is nothing.
Cruz is a patriot.
The thing Cruz fails to understand is no one trusts these commissions and investigations. Too many people understand the Russia hoax investigation and Barr cover-up.
We know the election was stolen and we also know an "election commission" is nothing but another cover-up. If you listen to what Cruz and Knowles say about the commission the focus is on restoring the integrity of the election.
Cruz acknowledges election fraud and claims the commission would focus on looking at if fraud was sufficient enough to alter the outcome of the election.
If this was an honest commission Cruz would go on to explain what the process would be if sufficient evidence was found. He doesn't do that because he already knows the sole purpose of commissions/investigations in government is to control what is discover and what is covered up and that's way his focus is on restoring election integrity.
Very good perspective in terms of explanation as to the 180 Cruz has come out with on #45. Thank you Lionkitty. Makes sense.
I have no problem with commissions as a concept and commissions are the language he knows. What we need to keep doing is pushing sunlight on these types of commissions. The secrecy has to end and the entire process made public in real time. We have learned the hard way we can't trust what we can't see and verify because that trust is gone. But we also can't dilute our selves into thinking these types of endeavors could be done with anything other than a fact finding or ivetigative commission. There simply isn't any other vehicle to get it done.
Add the 911 comission to the list of bullshit investigations.
I don’t see how that’s relevant. Cruz thinks Trump repeatedly reminding us that we were being ripped off was reckless and irresponsible, so he(Cruz) didn’t join in.
Well said. Cruz knows how big MAGA is as well and he’s not stupid. Texas loves Trump. I wouldn’t jump to any conclusions in his statement.
Id like to be that optomistic. Something has happened to Cruz. Hard to know what it could be. I listened to his most recent Verdict podcast where he was wound up over #45. It was not rational. It was also a 180 as to where he normally sits on #45. I find it hard to believe its because he contested the 11/3/2020 election and made statement he won by a landslide. For Christs sakes, if you dont beleive the man ASK FOR EVIDENCE. Better yet, READ AND DIGEST the evidence. Even better hold a hearing to LISTEN TO the hundreds of people with sworn affidavits of voter fraud. Its not that difficult. This whole thing is beyond bizarre.
It's not that bizarre, it's just Ted being a fair weather friend. Remember all the things he said about Trump during the 2015 primaries? Even up to showing up at the convention and doing a speech about how he was better than Trump?
Ted's first 180 was that he ever supported Trump at all. And as soon as Trump got forced out, Ted was perfectly happy to 180 again. He's never been on our side, except, perhaps, in that he doesn't seem to be all-in on the cabal and can therefore play nice with whichever side is winning.
Are you this dull? You would support someone like this? This isn’t a court room it’s public opinion. Cruz is a typical politician a weak minded coward. He and others are the reason the dems are in power again.
Ahem.. the dems are in power again because THEY FUCKING CHEATED!
I am going to see what he says in the future before I make my decision on whether he betrayed us or not. 4 years is a long time to see what he does. So far though, it's not looking good.
Does it really matter if he knows how big the movement is if he doesn't actually agree with it? Just pandering to it doesn't cut it...
We should never trust what politicians said. The only thing can tell a politician’s true color is voting records/proposed bill.
Good luck with that. I've noticed that that's the most popular thing to do around here. I'm pretty sure a lot of people here aren't patriots at all, but posers who are actually shillls or neocons.
Agreed, and this is what I have been saying all along. Trump lost 50+ times in Court, how many times can he lose is all I keep hearing. Having a case tossed out because of legal standing is a loss sure, but it was never presided over, so he did not lose in court. That's super disingenuous to suggest they are one and the same.
You cannot lose in court if you never got in the door to present IN THE COURTROOM. Thats the bottom line.
I will say one thing: SCOTUS did the American people a huge disservice by even suggesting Texas voters **AND **#45 had no standing to come before them in vote fraud 11/3/2020. That indicates the collusion in judicial system corruption right up to the top floor. If #45 ever wanted to demonstrate to the American people how bad things are in this country he couldnt have delivered a better example.
It's not losing if the courts stick their fingers in their ears and go 'LA LA La' it's being denied a fair hearing.
Right. We should actually be saying that he's undefeated in the courts when it comes to election fraud. That's a true statement too!
I refer to it as the Spontaneous Capitol Tour. We should use that term.
Sigh...you’re a shill idiot. Perhaps someone can read this to you for comprehension: Starting at the 16:52 mark of the January 25th, 2021 episode of Verdict with Ted Cruz, Senator Ted Cruz states the following: “President Trump’s rhetoric, I think, went way too far over the line. I think it was both reckless and irresponsible because he said repeatedly—and he said over and over again—he won by a landslide; there was massive fraud; it was all stolen everywhere. That evidence, the campaign did not prove that in any court, and to make a determination about an election it has to be based on the evidence, and so simply saying the result you want, that’s not responsible and you’ve never heard me use language like that. What I’ve said is voter fraud is real, and we need to examine the evidence, and look at the actual facts; and in particular, what is the evidence of how much voter fraud occurred, and did it occur in sufficient quantities and in sufficient states to alter the outcome of the election. That would have been the mandate of the election commission; to assess.”
Yep Ted is a cuck.
Went to a Cruz 'virtual rally' this past weekend, wouldn't have gone if I'd seen this. I voted for Cruz in the past - keyword: past.
Note to GOP in 2024: You Cruz, you lose.
I think the only major politician who has not flip flopped on Trump has been Matt Gaetz. The second I see a flip flop I know they are just playing political games.
I hope you will look at what Cruz actually said before making judgement.
Yes, I looked at what Cruz actually said....and I've also looked at the evidence with my own fucking eyes. I don't give a shit if it was never allowed to be presented in to our completely corrupt courts....I used my own fucking eyes and brain.
I do not need the governments stamp of approval before believing completely unrefuted video, photographic, and statistical evidence. It was not proven in court means fuck all, it was not disproven either.
What does any of that have to do with Cruz said? Cruz said he agrees with Trump, just not his rhetoric. Cruz is not refuting that there was voter fraud.
You're not comprehending what Cruz said. Others here break it down. It's courtroom / lawyer / politician speak, which DJT never does.
Cruz merely rephrased what DJT said, tuning it for his audience. He's fighting for Trump. Not the way I would, not the way I'd like to see him; but he's fighting for DJT.
Why does Cruz and Republicans in general keep trying to "meet in the middle" and appease the socialist left? He should be calling out someone like AOC for being a psycho bitch and a liar. I almost have more respect for her for telling him off. Their side takes no quarter.
I don’t think he’s trying to meet in the middle nor appease the socialist left. He believes that repeatedly reminding us that we were being ripped off was reckless and irresponsible, and pointless since it should be a matter for the courts.
He objected to the electoral college even after the capitol incident, he's repeatedly said there was voter fraud, he offered to argue the SCOTUS case, etc etc. Is that cucked?
Well to now say publicly that the president is responsible for the capital riots and to say that trump was irresponsible in my opinion is turning his back on us. So yes. Cucked
Y'all can't make your mother fucking minds up what y'all want..... if he had talked the talk and not voted you would have said the same exact thing, and voting is supposed to be his ultimate power to walk the walk, and he voted with us and then gave a personal opinion about what he had seen so far at that point - and where I'm also sure that the context of listening to that entire segment is also important, but of course he will be crucified over a snippet of the segment....
Clearly he thought he saw enough evidence of fraud to at least stop the process and examine everything because that's exactly how he voted even after the "riots"....
Some of y'all are no better than the left with your cancel culture faggotry
When he says that trump was irresponsible is when he crossed the line.
I don't see that aa what Cruz said. If that's what he means he'd vote to convict
Has he said that's a good idea? If not, you're misunderstanding him.
They're referring to this as "cucked":
Yeah, that rhetoric about going peacefully to the Capitol...that was surely code for everyone getting their guns out and shooting up the place! /s
I think cruz was referring to the President's statements in November & December prior to January 6th, not to the speech on the 6th.
I don't know man, it sounds like he's betraying us. Can you give a better explanation or view for what he said and meant?
Why are you directing that question to me?
Yes. Cruz re-stated what DJT said, in language more tuned to his audience.
Now look at the next paragraph. Cruz merely re-states what DJT said, in language more tuned to his audience.
I read the next paragraph. Doesn't alter the fact that Cruz's language about Trump was absolute shit.
something happened there...no question. My bet is we will never know what it was that turned him.
There's what you say and what you do about it.
He'd suck anyone's scrotum and lick anyone's perineum as long as he's getting something out of it. Remember he was trashing Mr. Trump and later he was on his knees in front of him.
Well, that was just a really long soliloquy for Ted Cruz to say he isn't MAGA, which I already knew, and that he is on the other side, which I have believed since he accidentally overlooked to mention the 600K low interest loan his wife had from Goldman Sachs in 2015.
His argument is like saying there's no evidence of electromagnetism because the courts have refused to hear a debate about it.
Guess what, Ted? It doesn't matter what the fucking courts do. You know and I know and you and I both know that we both know this election was stolen. To say otherwise is gaslighting your electorate.
Actually watch the video, at least 1-2 minutes. He spends 15+ minutes saying that we haven't had an investigation or day in court, and makes the case that we NEED that investigation and day in court. He's literally agreeing with us.
Brilliant analogy on electromagnetism. I with you 100%
That’s not his argument at all. He said Trump team didn’t prove the fraud in court. But voter fraud is real, and Americans deserve investigation. Hence he objected. He didn’t deny voter fraud.
You know that I know that you know that I know that you know . .
That was a lot of knows at the end there. I don't know if you planned that.
He knows what's up.
He doesn't even know what he does or doesn't know. Y'know?
As somebody that agrees with Cruz on like 95% of things, what he said he was incredibly slimy.
He knows that Trump cannot prove that evidence in a court because the courts would not even allow him to present the evidence.
>simply saying the results you want
>the mandate of the election commission (that does not exist)
cuckery
What did he say after that?
The video is in the article. Ted Cruz spends about 15 minutes arguing for why we need a real investigation, and a real day in court to present the evidence.
The article Title suggests he's gaslighting MAGA, but that's absolutely NOT the case if you watch a few minutes of the video.
^^^^^ EXACTLY! Thank you.
He called it a terrorist attack.
I saw the interview shill.
I read the article too...
Watch the video. The article is misleading. At least 1-2 minutes. Ted Cruz is literally making the case for why we need a real investigation and day in court for the election fraud. Ted Cruz even says there WAS fraud.
I used to be a Cruz supporter back before 2016. Watching his behavior, hearing his statements, and seeing who he was associating with during his presidential campaign soured me on him, like it did most people here. I know many thought he had a strong redemption arc over the past few years, but the guy would still often end up demonstrating evidence of the same cuckservative behavior that he displayed back in 2016, so he never regained my support or trust. This latest from him is actually more expected than a surprise. I would never vote for Cruz even if we had fair elections.
I feel you man, I feel you.
Yep... GEOTUS gave him the correct name starting in the 2016 debates. He changed it to “Lion” during Ted’s opportunistic MAGA phase. The guy is a snake.
Like Lindsey he’d jump on the bandwagon to garner support and say a lot of MAGA things, but in the end he’s still the fork-tounged Ted we know from that amazing primary. Lyin’ Ted “Vote your conscience” Cruz.
Once he saw DJT ousted Lyin Ted went right back to his true self. It’s kinda like a poem often recited at Trump rallies.
I knew he was a scumbag when he blamed Trump for the leftist violence at Trump's Chicago rally in 2016.
Cruz made sure the media didn't have to do it. He thought he would curry favor with the media by doing their lying and gaslighting for them. He made sure they would be able to say "Ted Cruz says 'Trump's inflammatory rhetoric caused all this violence.'"
Didn’t he object to the electors presented? WTF
So corporations run the government then?
Always have
Many people in a satanic cult together run everything.
It's the reason they joined the satanic cult to begin with.
I introduce to you: K-Street
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/05/23/the-key-reason-dc-hates-president-trump-its-a-big-club-and-he-aint-in-it/
Great read. I love how it’s from May and would just now finally red pill normal Americans. Worth a share. Love the George Carlin clip at the end as well.
Always have.
No. Lobbyist paid by the corporations do.
You’re a fool. Gateway Pundit is clickbait? Ted Cruz said: “President Trump’s rhetoric, I think, went way too far over the line. I think it was both reckless and irresponsible because he said repeatedly—and he said over and over again—he won by a landslide; there was massive fraud; it was all stolen everywhere. That evidence, the campaign did not prove that in any court, and to make a determination about an election it has to be based on the evidence, and so simply saying the result you want, that’s not responsible and you’ve never heard me use language like that. What I’ve said is voter fraud is real, and we need to examine the evidence, and look at the actual facts; and in particular, what is the evidence of how much voter fraud occurred, and did it occur in sufficient quantities and in sufficient states to alter the outcome of the election. That would have been the mandate of the election commission; to assess.”
This quote was taken way out of context.
Kindly explain how this was "taken way out of context".
The quote is not taken out of context, but the headline of the article does and is intentionally designed that way. GWP does this a lot.
Illuminate us, then.
The video of which they quote is linked directly in the article. You're doing exactly what you're criticizing them for - unverified bullshit. Criticizing all new sources should be done, but don't be so completely stupid with your critique. You're a fucking moron.
Yes.
Its only value is as an occasional way of finding an original source for a story - but then I work with that original source, not the Gateway Pundit misrepresentation of it.
I mean, declaring that Cruz is a traitor because he didn't get on his knees and fellate your favourite President doesn't help with the credibility here.
This is exactly that. He's trying to unify multiple groups. We won't win with a hardliner. Not right now.
Maybe when they come out with the gun grab in a few months and people start getting shot by cops in their homes on an hourly basis, but until then, it won't happen.
It is a tag team effort. Trump riles people up about voter fraud so that the topic stays relevant. Guys like Cruz go over how it needs to be proven so that it actually gets done. You can't just say "it was rigged" really loudly. You have to have guys like Cruz that actually wanted make sure the Trump team get the chance to show their evidence to congress.
He didn't cuck out, the mods just pinned this article because they're victims of clickbait.
Taken out of context. He completely agrees with him in the same episode. Stop trying to think everyone is out against 45–Cruz has been one of his most loyal supporters and if he at anytime would betray him it would have been during his election contests while in office. Listen to his podcast to hear his full story and please don’t fall for clickbait. All he is trying to do is unite those on the right around improving election security and attacking any fraud and irregularities found.
Under a guise for an audit that would be run by the same ppl who committed the fraud. Some of us here pointed that out...but Muh Lion Ted.
Yeah just what we need another commission. Hell with that.
Source?
You will never be a woman.
He is a giant pussy, though
Lol. Jokes on you. You’re wasting time here to troll (yes, you’re still wasting time if you’re here for ShariaBlue)
So strange how you bring up scat like that.
John Weaver, is that you?
NEVER TRUST A NEVERTRUMPER. And Lyin' Ted is a rabid NeverTrumper.
Does everyone finally realize that he's the same old opportunistic grifter that he's always been?
A Never Trumper? Cruz literally said he'd argue the case before SCOTUS.
Based on your answer, clearly not.
Cruz says a lot of dumb shit because he's a careerist who makes his next move based on the crowd, not based on some hardened belief in Trump and America.
Cruz wants term limits.
I know, fuck incrediMrE shill
Contact the RINO here!
https://www.cruz.senate.gov/?p=form&id=16
How ridiculous.
Yeah, what the hell is he playing at? Why can’t we get any solid representation?
We had solid representation, which is why they conspired to steal the election and install an illegitimate puppet in the White House.
Not wanting the left wing mob at his door. Trump "lost" its like rats jumping a sinking ship looking for some floatsam to cling to
How the hell did this retard learn how to type?
That bitch votes along party lines. You can shit on Cruz, or even shit on us for supporting him, but you simping for Cortez is just as bad.
Simp
He'd gotten about 10 senators to agree to a delay in order to convene a bipartisan group but when they were about to propose it, that's when the breach happened, and it was the BREACH that made those who agreed that they should appoint a committee, decide maybe they shouldn't.
A lot of it made me cringe but his most recent podcast explains what happened.
Ah yes, the breach made the fraud disappear
Good ol' PRESENT CHANGES PAST!
Some of yall dumb as hell. Unless you're criticizing those who changed their minds, in which case I sincerely apologize.
Attacking Ted Cruz, the one who tried to put the committee together, is not going going get us anywhere and will give those Lincoln pervs lulz.
He's a politician, yes. Maybe he should be less of a politician and more of a fighter, but people need to maybe focus on that instead of whining and saying, "No vote for you no more."
Muh committee
Cruz still objected even after the capitol incident.
No. The mods just pinned an inaccurate bullshit article from a publication known for lying.
They have a video on the website of him saying these words. Did you not even open the article?
What is inaccurate about this?
Link to clip
Did you watch at least 1-2 minutes of the video? Ted Cruz is literally making the case for why we need a real investigation into the election fraud that actually happened, and that we didn't have our day in court.
The article is completely misleading.
Gateway Pundit is not on the MAGA side. They are on the side of making money off of our anger. They post titles like this because they know it will piss us off.
He says in the video that it was not proven in court which is the same leftist talking point. All of Trumps lawsuits were dismissed on technicalities including the ones filed by independent voters. The court simply refused to look at the merit, spare me with that bs.
Did you watch at least 1-2 minutes of the video?
Yes, I know what he said. But soon after that statement, he goes on to say the reason for that is because we've never been ALLOWED to present the evidence in court. He's literally in the middle of a 15+ minute segment arguing there was fraud, and we need a real investigation, a real court-case, and we haven't gotten it.
Can you please watch the video? Cruz is literally arguing for MAGA and for Trump in 95% of the video. I'm not interested in debate, you can literally just watch the video. Watch at least 1-2 minutes.
https://youtu.be/p6ReEeokXQI?t=1054
WATCH THE VIDEO, at least 1-2 minutes.
https://youtu.be/p6ReEeokXQI?t=1054
Soon after he goes into how (1) there was fraud (2) there was no investigation and (3) there was no opportunity to present evidence, and (4) we need that investigation and legit court case.
Literally just watch the video, he makes that exact point you're asserting he's avoiding.
Also, the post misrepresents the quote. I’m very disappointed that this post got stickied. It’s not worthy.
They do lie, so I'm not sure why you got so many down votes 🤷
They posted a video with him saying these words.
Did you watch at least 1-2 minutes of the video? Ted Cruz is literally making the case for why we need a real investigation into the election fraud that actually happened, and that we didn't have our day in court.
The article is completely misleading.
His entire podcast should be listened to. It seems there is a rogue mod here trying to divide everyone by posting this without fact checking.
And CNN posted a video of Trump saying there were very fine people on both sides in Charlottesville. Do we just believe videos now that cut off all context?
Another Clickbait Gateway Pundit article. he says in the interview that Trump is right, and that the courts punted their duties.
Dead on with the gateway comment
Like, that they should have heard the evidence?
We’re not talking about that part. Keep reading/ listening. Ffs!
Yes, people need to watch out for fake news on "our" side too. People don't realize that news are a business, clickbait bullshit like this will divide us and make us easier targets.
I told y'all, but you didn't believe me.
Ted Cruz is a selfish coward who will throw his own JFK-assassinating relatives under the bus to save his own position.
i dont mind selfish cowards if they execute the peoples will
there i said it
Does it look like Ted Cruz "executed the people's will" to you?
I listened to the podcast in question and yeah, it sounds like he did. Politics is the art of the possible and without blackmailing, bribing, or using threats of violent retribution he did. The other side did all three and won. Kinda makes ya think.
You have to explain that. I already understand the part about "the other side." You can skip that part.
Explain what "the people's will" is and how Cruz did it.
He did it within the rules of the system.
What?
Well hold on now. Do we even trust the people's will anymore? What if it is "the people's will" to abandon capitalism in favor of Communism? We have shown that so many people are not even worthy of expressing an opinion and certainly not capable or worthy of voting. I would agree with you if we were to define 'by and for the people'. For the people, no issue. By the people, certainly not all of them should be involved as has been made abundantly clear.
I am too dumb to really know the difference. You seem to have a more nuanced way of describing things. I think what I want is "the peoples will" at this point. Too much stupid shit has taken place, I dont remember how to be reasonable anymore.
Watch the actual video, the article is misleading.
What exactly is misleading?
It was clear when he was one of the lead Never Trumpers back in 2016.
Some people thought he was MAGA after that since he seemed to stand up for Trump but it was all an act. Lyin' Ted.
He was never a never Trumper. Idk what you are talking about. There was a few months after the primaries where he wouldn't comment on things related to Trump, but he was not a never Trumper. He literally endorsed Trump.
He was absolutely a Never Trumper.
He refused to even endorse Trump at the RNC and he was booed for it.
He was going around "debating" pro Trump people and crowds saying Trump did not have the temperament to be President.
He finally endorsed him a month before the election but he was never a loyal Trump supporter.
To be fair, that didn't take much effort or insight on your part since the exact same thing is true of all of them and has been for a very long time.
People here are saying it's not true of Cruz.
They obviously need to have the obvious explained to them.
No.
You need to listen to what he was saying about what they were doing at the time of the breach.
They were going to object and request a committee but the breach is what turned the opposers off. That's when he lost support.
That night, they should have stood firm but they gave up, probably due to optics. But this Gateway Pundit story is not accurate.
I stopped looking at gateway pundit links
That website is such garbage. They were one of the biggest pushers of "arrests tomorrow hopium" nonsense. I'm embarrassed that website is still posted here.
Cruz still objected in spite of all this.
And yes, The Gateway Pundit is knowingly lying.
Yeah, his "committee" so that he doesn't have to take responsibility for his vote. That is simply more evidence of his cowardice.
He lies and gaslights and misrepresents events throughout this video, as he has mostly done throughout his career.
And it wasn't even enough that he makes excuses for his cowardice in changing his tune because of "the breach" (which does not excuse it).
He also gaslights viewers, using the Democrat talking point that Trump "couldn't win in any court" while omitting the fact that the mountain of damning evidence of millions of votes being manufactured, thrown out, and changed was systematically suppressed by all those courts.
Gateway's characterization of Cruz's comments here is accurate.
Been saying this a while. It's like people forgot who he was when he grew a beard.
UNIPARTY GUN UNIPARTY
And they're coming for that gun.
NEVER TRUST A NEVERTRUMPER
I don't get why people give anyone who was in the Senate pre-2016 the benefit of the doubt. Hell, even the ones elected post-2016 - with the sole exception of Hawley - are sketchy at best. And even Hawley could turn on us at any point.
So who do you like aside from Trump
That's fine by me. I am willing to give Hawley and Gaetz the benefit of the doubt because they've been solid thus far - but they lose my support the second they turn on us.
Anyone doing that in this community is not from this community. They are not MAGA. They are ‘republicans’ who like the establishment. The Tedcucks are losers who came to TD because they heard it was where the winning movement was centered, and they came to inject their loserthink into our discussion. Sadly, they weren’t chased out of town because the mods liked the traffic and thought more people on a message board is unilaterally a good thing.
Tedcucks are the reason we weren’t as powerful in 2020. They diluted the discussion. They are complacent by their very nature. They are establishment serfs by their very nature. They should have been shunned from the very beginning. They should be ridiculed and purged now.
Right there with ya.
This article isn't accurate, it's idiotic for the mods to pin it. Watch Cruz's podcast for his full context, which I'm sure we'd all agree with.
I don't agree with this.
Actually watch the video for a 1-2 minutes. Him criticizing rhetoric is among a 15+ minute segment of him advocating for a real investigation of the election fraud.
I don't agree with everything Ted said, but he spends 95% of the segment advocating for what all of us have been screaming for ... a REAL INVESTIGATION.
Muh terrorist attack
Even Trump was mislead into thinking what happened at the Capital was a horrific attack.
Lol, he was lead into thinking it? He can't determine it on his own? You are a fool.
Why did Trump think it was a horrific attack. I agree that our senators need to do more independent research, but it's pretty obvious they've all been lied to. Including Trump.
Remember when Trump denounced the Proud Boys, despite acknowledging he didn't know anything about them? I hate to say it, but most of congress knows way less about the events at the capital (despite being there) than the average person whose spent time investigating it independently, like most of us here.
I am so fucking pissed this was stickied. You literally only have to watch the video to realize it's out of context, and not as bad as the title suggests.
Yes, Cruz critiques the "rhetoric" in the middle of a 15+ minute segment about why we need a REAL investigation of the election fraud, and that we haven't had it yet.
A walking corpse.
TheGatewayPundit was also behind a lot of hoaxes about "Arrests tomorrow" and other hopium nonsense that never came to pass.
Cruz is one of the only ones who did take a stand, and one of those only ones who continues to take a stand. Sure he could have done a little more on the 6th, but he did more than practically anyone else did that day, including Rand Paul.
It's not because Cruz didn't take a stand, it's because all the rest of the Republicans pussied out. Cruz is still fighting for a meaningful investigation to this day, and if you watch the video, that's exactly what Cruz does in the video.
Realistically, no other senator has done half of what Cruz has around the election challenge. Some house members have, but no senator.
Contact the RINO here
https://www.cruz.senate.gov/?p=form&id=16
You are right, maybe not. But just posting on here definitely doesn’t work. I won’t fool myself into believing a couple emails will make his heart grow like the Grinch, but it’s better than nothing.
Dude thinks he has a shot in 2024 because he thinks Trump is out of the picture.
Cruz’ popularity dipped HUGE during the primaries to the point where he almost lost his seat to Gun Grabber O’Rourke. It wasn’t until after that he started kissing ass.
No surprise to see him turn on Trump.
Ted Cruz is a faggot
He does have a shot, because our votes mean nothing!
He's definately saying the right things to convince the people who decide our elections that he's the right cuck for the job.
And we get Beto if the clown doesn't run for Gov of Texas or POTUS)...
Doubt it, unless he gets primaried his re-election is 2024 so presidential turnout means he likely wins.
Hahahaha it didn’t take that long before the rino reset button was hit. Remember when folks on here were asking why Cruz didn’t sign on to the Hawley rejection? Some of us reminded you that Cruz was the controlled GOPistion to quell the rage. With the exception of a very few everyone in DC is a traitor all around.
You're a victim of this bullshit article. There's more context to what Cruz said.
Okay, what is the context that makes it better?
Watch a 1-2 minutes of the video at least. It's a criticism of "rhetoric" in the middle of a 15+ minute segment about why we need a REAL investigation of election fraud, and that we haven't had one yet.
He wasn't ALLOWED to prove fraud in any court, cause they used legal tricks to dodge that case like a hot potato.
Christ.
He made that clear later on the show.
That's almost exactly what Ted says later in the video. The article is very misleading. Ted spends 15+ minutes making the case for why we need an investigation, and if you only focus on that sentence, you'd he he was gaslighting us.
Watch 1-2 minutes of the video at least.
That is why Ted says this. He is pointing out that they need to hear the evidence. Ted was the guy trying to get congress to hear it.
Ted is a politician through and through. He jumped on the Trump train because he recognized a winner. He only objected to try and curb what Hawley was doing. Cruz is like a Mitch McConnell, out for himself and main goal is self promotion.
I thought he would be smarter. Trump’s republican approval has been 90%+ for the longest time. Thought he wouldn’t be so out of touch and would support the MAGA agenda. Instead, he chose to lose the Trump base and dems already hate him. Idiot move
You nailed it. Cruz is an elite politician - he will go where he thinks it will benefit him the most. He zigs and zags like the rest of them. Nobody who knows Trump, watches Trump, understands Trump and SUPPORTS Trump would've ever accepted the premise that Trump ever called on people to be violent. The fact that so many of these guys bent the knee to even remotely accept that narrative shows their true colors...
Always Has Been.
How? Our votes mean nothing.
Watch the actual video. It's a critique of rhetoric, in the middle of a much longer segment of him making a case for why we need a REAL investigation of election fraud. The article is misleading.
It's hard being the voice of reason in the midst of autistic screeching isn't it?
This is why lefties win, they never break ranks while we throw a guy out because of a slightly different opinion.
No, the mods messed up by pinning a bullshit article that doesn't provide any o the context.
Did you... watch the video of him talking lol
I watched about 15 minutes of it.
Ted is literally making the case that we need a REAL investigation, and that we haven't had our day in court. This article focuses on a few seconds of critique in the middle of that big-ass segment where Ted Cruz is literally arguing for exactly what MAGA has been demanding these last few months.
Go to the 17 minute mark. He says explicitly that "Trump used overcharged rhetoric regarding election fraud."
That's stabbing Trump in the back.
He eats boogers too.
Man I hate the republican party. Support them at election time and they turn on you. Give them money and they turn on you. They will never give a straight answer. They only work for their clients and that does NOT include the American people. I dont see how the gop can be worked with. Lucy will always pull the football away. They will always treat Trump like shit. Patriots Party or bust.
did he really? gateway is just rage porn for the right. They really like to make stories about stuff out of context. they want them rage clicks.
This. So many fake MAGA cringe reactionaries here. I'm gonna vomit. I thought we were better than the left but thousands of us apparently eat this kind of bs up...
was this the case? I did not read the story or really look into the details.
Seeing that the mods pinned this is incompetent and dangerous: The Gateway Pundit is using a totally clickbait headline, WATCH HIS FULL PODCAST.
You should like a leftist cuck calling shit "dangerous" when it's literally quoting what he said. I sure as fuck hope I don't get stuck in the trenches with a pussy like you.
Watch at least 1-2 minutes of the video. Ted Cruz spends a long segment arguing for MAGA, and a REAL investigation and court-case for the election fraud, and that we haven't had it yet. Ted Cruz also says there was fraud.
Do you want to throw one of our few allies under the bus who is arguing in favor of our case, who is one of the only ones to actually contest the election? Who cares if he critiques Trump's rhetoric (style) for a few seconds amongst a 15-minute clip of him arguing we need a real day in court.
Please watch the video, don't jump to conclusions.
How much is Cruz paying you Wecax69.
The guy you responded to is CORRECT. Watch the video linked, at least 1-2 minutes of it. Ted spent a few seconds critiquing "rhetoric" in the middle of a 15+ minute segment of him talking about why we need a REAL investigation.
I'm glad that things have gone the way they have.
We now know who the real patriots and traitors are.
So how many are real Patriots 2 or 3
Look who still stands by Trump. Those are the real Patriots.
(Yes, only a few, in power.)
I'm just looking to those who dont distort reality and manipulate facts....ted is on that train fuck him
Very fair viewpoint, but look how extreme Trump had to make the situation in order to expose the slimiest rats.
Cruz would have remained under the radar, had it not been for that January 6 habbening.
Thanks Trump
TheGatewayPundit is the traitor. Watch at least 1-2 minutes. Ted Cruz makes a 15+ minute argument for why we need a REAL investigation and a day in court for the election fraud. Ted Cruz also says there definitely was fraud.
Yeah, I don't like Ted's comments on rhetoric (style), but almost everyone critique's Trump's style. Ted is literally fighting for EXACTLY what we've been demanding these last few months, lets not throw him under the bus for a few off-hand comments in the middle of him fighting strongly for us.
I could also make the argument that Ted knows there will never be a REAL investigation, or a "day in court" (which they say has already occurred), so this could just be lip-service to help maintain credibility while trying to separate Trump from his base.
Any assertion that Trump is responsible for what occurred inside the capitol building is tantamount to treason. "Treason" aside, it ignores all notions of common sense, encouraging people to denounce the concept of personal responsibility, and accountability. (Which politicians love-- just blame Trump!)
Those people made a decision to enter the capitol building. Whether or not they committed a crime is a separate discussion. But their defense cannot be that Trump told them to do it, because he didn't.
I will take your comments to heart, but Cruz's election fraud commentary seems hollow, if he is going to blame Trump for whatever happened inside the Capitol Building.
Wow, Cruz whining about TRUMP's comment as reckless and irresponsible goes on to do exactly that. I'm only 1/2 way through the video. Cruz is explaining the events on the 6st where they were escorted from the floor of the senate to a secure location and they were horrified at watching "terrorist" taking over the capital!!! Someone flips the channel to CNN and Tapper was labeling those who were set to object as the "sedition caucus".
Am I the only one who is pissed at labeling ALL the people who stepped in the capital as "terrorist"? Cruz doesn't think his comments doing just that are reckless and irresponsible? We all have seen the videos where people were in someways being herded into the capital and many went in not knowing what was going on and were just moving with the crowd. These people are not f-ing terrorist or rioters!!! People like Cruz are to much of f-ing coward to defend these people and say the focus should be on those involved who were controlling the movement of the crowd and inciting violence. along with why there was little to no security of the capital during the rally.
Yes I have seen videos of some of those so called "Terrorists" walking around inside of the Capitol picking up trash.
Hes a Bush servant
lmao is this your first day on TheDonald/Patriots?
And this shit got.... stickied?
😂
I don't know about 'traitor' but yea he fucked up by saying that.
Don't we like Trump because he's reckless?? "Bull in the China shop" sort of thing?
I thought that was the whole point.
Irresponsible is just a stupid opinion.
Yea well... he was 1 of 2 people who contested the election votes so for that he at least deserves to not be called a traitor.
Watch the video, it's not as bad as the article makes it out to be, the article is misleading.
He's critiquing rhetoric in the middle of a 15+ minute segment about why we need a REAL investigation of election fraud.
This is exactly what I figured.
I mean... at least Cruz was 1 of 2 people who contested the votes, and for that... I will always see him as a defender of the Constitution.
Ideological purity is not MAGA.
Thanks for your comment
Fuck Cruz...Nothing wrong with what Trump said. They have the evidence to at least justify an audit. Even the average joe has enough evidence to prove it.
Watch the actual video. The comment about Trump's rhetoric is only a few seconds,, in the middle of Ted Cruz spending 15+ minutes advocating for a REAL investigation of election fraud, and says there WAS fraud.
Please don't be so quick to say "fuck Cruz" when he's one of the very FEW people who is fighting for MAGA. I'm sickened to see MAGA attacking one of our last allies and advocates in the Senate.
“The president’s language and rhetoric often goes too far. I think, yesterday in particular, the president’s language and rhetoric crossed the line and it was reckless,” Cruz said in an interview with ABC13 Houston.
He's directly talking about the 6th. Trump said nothing wrong. What more do you need to realize that Cruz decide to play politics because he wants to win 2024. He knows there's no chance if Trump can run 2024
For sure, Cruz definitely plays politics in a diplomatic way. Criticizing Trumps rhetoric is popular. And criticizing Cruz for not telling the WHOLE truth (or not being aware of it) is valid.
Trump did say nothing wrong on the 6th, or at least I have not seen a single clip yet of him saying anything even remotely close to wrong.
I still think Cruz is one of the best allies we have for now. If we can get even better allies, I'm 100% behind that, but until then Ted Cruz has been far more consistent in supporting us than anyone else in the Senate.
No he's a fucking rat. Ted knows exactly what he's doing. He knows Trump said nothing wrong in the nov 6th speech. Yet he has the audacity to claim a line was crossed. Sorry I live in Texas and will not stand for it. He fucked up.
LYIN' TED 🖕
LYING ARTICLE.
Watch the video, at least 1-2 minutes. Ted spends 15+ minutes making the case for why we need a real investigation, and that one hasn't happened yet.
Sorry to say this Ted this is the end of your career
Watch the video. This article is misleading. Just 1-2 minutes. It's few seconds of critique of rhetoric in the middle of a 15+ minute segment about why we need a REAL investigation of election fraud.
Remember Ted was one of the only ones to stand up for Trump's election contest, and that hasn't changed.
I know I'm not a fan of the pro-lifeers and the God frearing people in the party.
Told yall!!! No one listened. He's a snake a charloton. A fucking scumbag lawyer. We were all on his dick, and guess what we got fucked. Never forget his treatment of Ben Carson. Never forget. I will do everything in my power to make sure hes never reelected.
...except the article is mislead, watch 1-2 minutes of the video at least.
Look at my post history. I have no love for the man. He's a snake.
That's fine. But I'm telling you to watch the video. Ted Cruz is making a 15+ minute argument for why we need a real investigation of election fraud, that there was fraud, and that we need a real day in court.
Ted Cruz isn't pure MAGA, sure, but he's one of the few people who've put his ass on the line for Trump in this election contest, and still continues to do so today.
Yeah I was never super happy about you guys calling him Lion Ted.
back to lyin' ted then...what a coward
Well shit. Before long we're going to have to disavow everyone but Pepe.
When Cruz murdered all those people in the 60s and 70s, that should have been the first wake up call.
Zodiac has "circled back" and his political future is his next victim.
I don't think what he said was that bad. He stated that evidence wasn't proven in courts, that's true since courts didn't even hear the cases. I don't think he was bashing Trump.
You must have missed the part where he said Trump went over the line with his rhetoric and incited what happened on the 6th.
Must have. Fuck him.
It's New York values all over again. What a fool.
I'm getting pretty fecking tired of the "no fraud was proven in any court" when EVERYBODY knows that not one court case has actually looked at any evidence.
The few that did actually ruled that the ballots were illegal like in Wisconsin and Virginia.
The GOP is a round table circle jerk.
lol is this surprising? think there are two parties? its the uniparty of the corrupt child pedos and then the poor masses.
There is a mountain of STATISTICAL PROOF from numerous experts, proof SCOTUS chose to deny existed because the cowards on that bench would rather hand our country over to traitors than risk more riots(riots which have yet to even cease). He was probably promised a presidential run if he turned on us.
He did not turn on us.
No courts would hear the case -> wHeReS tHe eViDeNcE?
Watch the video, because that's what Ted says in the video. That courts haven't seen the evidence yet, and that we haven't had a real investigation, or real case.
Controlled old money oligarch
I'm with the other pedes casting long doubts on Gateway Pundit. Cruz does not automatically get the benefit of the doubt from me, but Gateway's spun a lot of stuff skewed and after the election they were nonstop hopium. I appreciate their commitment to MAGA but I don't consider them a trusted source.
Watch the video, it's in the article. About 1-2 minutes will do. The article is misleading, and implies Ted is gaslighting us and that there's no fraud.
In fact, what's actually in the video is Ted Cruz spending 15+ minutes making the case that we need a REAL investigation, and real court-case, and that the investigation hasn't happened yet.
This is my problem with Gateway. Even if you attribute the best of intentions they're practicing clickbait, not journalism, looking at only the surface of everything.
I can't count the number of sensationalized, poorly sourced, or hopium "arrests tomorrow, trust the plan" style articles I've seen from TheGatewayPundit over the last few months on my finger, toes, plus that of my entire family's fingers and toes.
I'm hoping that now since it's obvious the hoping was always full of shit, that we can start curating some of the content that is really just misleading us and making us put efforts on the wrong places. This article is extra disgusting though, because it's causing MAGA to attack one of our best allies. And yes, Cruz is not pure-MAGA, but he's one of the best we've got at the moment.
When we actually get some better MAGA in the senate, then by all means I'm behind that.
What a fucking moron... maybe, just maybe, if the courts allowed for presenting evidence than maybe it wouldn’t have been so wreck less or irresponsible?? Cruz... BIG talker, looking for attention... just a trick pony, that’s about all he is
Watch at least 1-2 minutes of the video. The article is misleading.
I will... the fact that he is all talk for attention and very little action says it all... look what happened with Sec230... he was a BIG advocate and griller towards big tech but hey, big tech won... look what happened with him defending Trump... well, you guessed it... he retracts... look at him wearing a “come and take it” mask... “Oh how direct that message is” he says and does ANYTHING to bring attention to himself. That’s ALL he is good at.
A perfect example would be like that super hot popular girl in Highschool... she’s super hot, always wants attention, and probably fun in bed... but other than those qualities, she is useless otherwise
PLEASE................ SAY IT AIN'T SO....Trumpgirl4ever where can I view ted Cruz comment...
It ain't so. Listen to his entire podcast.
Just like this whole Enrique Tarrio thing, we are dealing with some serious misinformation.
He has said he disagreed with the president saying some of the stuff he said without the courts having come to their conclusions.
He has said time and time again "muh anomalies," and believes that they should have been dealt with in court but he's not lying. He's being a politician, so judge him on that, not on this poor reporting from Gateway Pundit.
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So in one breath you say "cruz believed trump" and in the next "cruz doesn't believe it was proven." Lol.
I stopped listening to this dickhead a long time ago. Listening to Mitch McConnell Lite isn't for me. Just doing the spineless politician bullshit. Not standing on principal. Just weaseling around to try and cover his ass
No. Ted Cruz is saying that the evidence hasn't been presented in court because we've been denied that opportunity. And that a real investigation hasn't happened because we've been denied that opportunity as well.
Actually watch the video, because that critique about "rhetoric" is in the middle of a LONG segment where he's advocating FOR us having that court-case, that investigation, and everything we've been asking for. Don't throw our best ally in the senate under the bus over a headline.
https://youtu.be/p6ReEeokXQI?t=1012
He's never been based. He's the same slimy ass politician he's always been.
Watch it again and listen carefully! You stupid faggots! Your language is English yet you dont understand what he's saying? Go to Patriots.stupid not here we dont need stupid folks here!
Here what he says: What I’ve said is voter fraud is real, and we need to examine the evidence, and look at the actual facts; and in particular, what is the evidence of how much voter fraud occurred, and did it occur in sufficient quantities and in sufficient states to alter the outcome of the election. That would have been the mandate of the election commission; to assess.”
Fuck this article, it's misleading. Watching the video.
What the FUCK on stickying this without actually taking a CLOSE look at the FULL context of the video. He spends 95% of the video making a case for why we need an investigation, and that there hasn't been one yet, nor a real court case yet. So what if he made a few small critiques of Trumps "rhetoric."
It really pisses me off that we're so easily mislead into attacking our allies. Wake the fuck up people. Sure, I don't agree with everything Cruz said, but people PLEASE stop being mislead by headlines or short quotes.
Agree, WATCH THE VIDEO. The headline is click bait. I often accuse lefties of using a headline to prove their point, and here we are...
Remember the whole Q-anon movement existed and was super-popular right up until about Jan 21st. Only NOW do I not get mass-downvoted for calling out hopium lies. 'Trust the plan" ... by sitting behind your keyboard geeking out over shit that never happens.
I'll keep speaking the truth, whatever that truth may be.
You'd think after the "Fine People" hoax, that people might realize that you absolutely must very careful believing short clips or headlines, especially ones written about conservatives.
And TheGatewayPundit doesn't exactly have a very reliable track-record. I'm just a little surprised to see them writing a hit-piece against one of MAGA's few allies in government.