Except the article is misleading. Watch a few minutes of the video. At least 1-2 minutes. This quote is him critiquing rhettoric (style) in the middle of a LONG segment about why we need a real investigation, and real court case to examine the evidence, and that we've been denied that so far. Ted Cruz is literally making our case for us.
He's packaging it from a more "moderate" stance to not scare the normies, but in that podcast he's literally doing EXACTLY what we've all been asking for.
I'm SO FUCKING PISSED at TheGatewayPundit for pulling this shit out of context, in order to attack one of MAGA's few remaining allies in the Senate. If we throw Ted Cruz under the bus for critiquing mere "rhettoric" when he's literally the #1 fighter for Trump in the senate right now, we might as well give up entirely.
Yes, I want more 100% MAGA people in government and wish we had better. But where are these better people? I'll take a Ted Cruz who is about 90% MAGA, call him out when he fucks up, but does a better job than 99% of the Senate.
Until we get MAGA in the senate, lets stop throwing people under the bus for a couple second segment among a 15+ minute argument about why we need to actually investigate the 2020 election,
I don't conceded that anything Trump said or did was reckless or irresponsible. Anyone trying to package it that way for the normies is a surrender monkey who IS ACCEPTING THE LEFT'S PREMISE.
No way, no how, should Cruz or any Republican concede that Trump was reckless or irresponsible when talking about the FACT that they STOPPED COUNTING VOTES WHEN THINGS WERE NOT GOING THEIR WAY.
They literally STOLE an election are trying to pretend the guy who didn't "quietly accept" that is the bad one in the scenario.
But you're correct, GP is a click bait asshole who often quotes things out of context.
Cruz is mostly critiquing the the rhetoric (style), or at least that's my take listening to the audio.
I agree that Trump won in a landslide, I've seen the evidence myself which is clear as day, and doesn't require relying on any of the more fantastical or unproven claims. Literally election night I was founding a few hundred-thousand Biden only votes in states, where president-only votes don't happen historically.
I don't think telling the truth is irresponsible. So I do dissagree with Cruz on that point. But it's not the level of critique or Trump bashing that the article makes it out to be.
I took Cruz's comments on rhetoric did criticize Trump, but the overall interview is Pro-Trump. And the GP click bait pissed off a lot of people I know!
I agree. I don't want Cruz or any other conservative giving an inch. The strongest possible language should be used at every opportunity. Any less than that is illustrating complicity in the fraud. We played by the rules while they overtly stole the damn thing. THEY should be walking on pins and needles, not us.
Personally, I don't trust Cruz. It's clear he's one of the rehearsed politicians that jumped over all the proper establishment hurdles to become a DC insider. We need homegrown politicians that proved their conservative, anti-globalist chops BEFORE entering office. And preferably, no more Ivy League assholes. I'll take a guy with a degree from a community college over one from Harvard at this point. Any day of the week.
Nope. None of this matters. Cruz is a traitor. Want your mind blown? So is Rand Paul. Not a single senator objected to Georgia. Not one senator stood up and did the right thing. ZERO! We will forever vote for ceremonial purposes only. I know it's a hard pill to swallow but people need to wake the fuck up and acknowledge what just happened. A Leninist-Bolshevik revolution just happened in the United States. Our government has been usurped by the banking cabal and their axis of evil. We are no longer citizens, we are subjects. There is no political solution. I'm still not convinced Roger Stone was wrong when he said the Trumps were Romanov'd. I believe congress are prisoners under threat of violence just like Hollywood. "If only they knew how bad it really was."
In case people forgot, Cruz was a backstabbed in 2016.
When Trump won, Lyin’ Ted was rebranded Lion Ted because once you win you have to govern and work with your less venomous ally snakes against the more venomous opponent snakes.
Cruz is a snake who serves his uses, but he gets no reverence from me.
Thank you for this! I am one of the many that's so discouraged I wouldn't have read the article. Using the impeachment to discuss election fraud isn't deflection, it's integral to DJT's defense.
If you look at what he said, it's not quite as bad as most on this thread are making it out to be.
I totally disagree with Cruz on this, but you could easily interpret his words as saying the post election tactics weren't focused enough and were bad optics as a result.
I fully expect downvotes for this post, but am not ready to throw Cruz out just yet.
The headline also says that President Trump never proved election fraud in any court, which is true, because the corrupt courts all refused to see the case.
Ima go out on a limb here and not defen Cruz but attempt politician splain this. One of the thing we love about Daddy Trump is that he doesn't do politician/lawyer speak. He says what he thinking is simple terms always and we can trust that he means what he says, no weasel words. To most politicians this is an anathema because they are mostly lawyers come to age in that world and taught to speak that way over knee of court decorum. Was it stupid for him to say this, yes. Was it wrong for a court presentation point of view, no. A good lawyer will always tell their client to shut the hell up and say nothing, a good client will listen. Here Cruse is using lawyer speak to say that his "client" is brash with his words but he is not wrong. I have been side eyeing cruze for some time and this almost turned from him till I actually listen and looked at it through the lense of a lawyer. We have to be careful to not kick our allies to the curb if they don't speak the way we want them too, especially when what they say is in agreement with us. There people out there trying to get us to turn on anyone that supports Trump so they can isolate them. The imposters among us that will attempt to subvet us and divide us. Be mindful.
Agreed, and this is what I have been saying all along. Trump lost 50+ times in Court, how many times can he lose is all I keep hearing. Having a case tossed out because of legal standing is a loss sure, but it was never presided over, so he did not lose in court. That's super disingenuous to suggest they are one and the same.
Sigh...you’re a shill idiot. Perhaps someone can read this to you for comprehension:
Starting at the 16:52 mark of the January 25th, 2021 episode of Verdict with Ted Cruz, Senator Ted Cruz states the following:
“President Trump’s rhetoric, I think, went way too far over the line. I think it was both reckless and irresponsible because he said repeatedly—and he said over and over again—he won by a landslide; there was massive fraud; it was all stolen everywhere. That evidence, the campaign did not prove that in any court, and to make a determination about an election it has to be based on the evidence, and so simply saying the result you want, that’s not responsible and you’ve never heard me use language like that. What I’ve said is voter fraud is real, and we need to examine the evidence, and look at the actual facts; and in particular, what is the evidence of how much voter fraud occurred, and did it occur in sufficient quantities and in sufficient states to alter the outcome of the election. That would have been the mandate of the election commission; to assess.”
He objected to the electoral college even after the capitol incident, he's repeatedly said there was voter fraud, he offered to argue the SCOTUS case, etc etc. Is that cucked?
He'd suck anyone's scrotum and lick anyone's perineum as long as he's getting something out of it. Remember he was trashing Mr. Trump and later he was on his knees in front of him.
Well, that was just a really long soliloquy for Ted Cruz to say he isn't MAGA, which I already knew, and that he is on the other side, which I have believed since he accidentally overlooked to mention the 600K low interest loan his wife had from Goldman Sachs in 2015.
His argument is like saying there's no evidence of electromagnetism because the courts have refused to hear a debate about it.
Guess what, Ted? It doesn't matter what the fucking courts do. You know and I know and you and I both know that we both know this election was stolen. To say otherwise is gaslighting your electorate.
Actually watch the video, at least 1-2 minutes. He spends 15+ minutes saying that we haven't had an investigation or day in court, and makes the case that we NEED that investigation and day in court. He's literally agreeing with us.
That’s not his argument at all. He said Trump team didn’t prove the fraud in court. But voter fraud is real, and Americans deserve investigation. Hence he objected. He didn’t deny voter fraud.
The video is in the article. Ted Cruz spends about 15 minutes arguing for why we need a real investigation, and a real day in court to present the evidence.
The article Title suggests he's gaslighting MAGA, but that's absolutely NOT the case if you watch a few minutes of the video.
Watch the video. The article is misleading. At least 1-2 minutes. Ted Cruz is literally making the case for why we need a real investigation and day in court for the election fraud. Ted Cruz even says there WAS fraud.
I used to be a Cruz supporter back before 2016. Watching his behavior, hearing his statements, and seeing who he was associating with during his presidential campaign soured me on him, like it did most people here. I know many thought he had a strong redemption arc over the past few years, but the guy would still often end up demonstrating evidence of the same cuckservative behavior that he displayed back in 2016, so he never regained my support or trust. This latest from him is actually more expected than a surprise. I would never vote for Cruz even if we had fair elections.
Yep... GEOTUS gave him the correct name starting in the 2016 debates. He changed it to “Lion” during Ted’s opportunistic MAGA phase. The guy is a snake.
Like Lindsey he’d jump on the bandwagon to garner support and say a lot of MAGA things, but in the end he’s still the fork-tounged Ted we know from that amazing primary. Lyin’ Ted “Vote your conscience” Cruz.
Once he saw DJT ousted Lyin Ted went right back to his true self. It’s kinda like a poem often recited at Trump rallies.
I knew he was a scumbag when he blamed Trump for the leftist violence at Trump's Chicago rally in 2016.
Cruz made sure the media didn't have to do it. He thought he would curry favor with the media by doing their lying and gaslighting for them. He made sure they would be able to say "Ted Cruz says 'Trump's inflammatory rhetoric caused all this violence.'"
LYIN’ TED!!! The long knives are out!! Beware Patriots MAGA!🇺🇸🦁🐸
Between him amd crenshaw...texas needs to pick better representation
Except the article is misleading. Watch a few minutes of the video. At least 1-2 minutes. This quote is him critiquing rhettoric (style) in the middle of a LONG segment about why we need a real investigation, and real court case to examine the evidence, and that we've been denied that so far. Ted Cruz is literally making our case for us.
He's packaging it from a more "moderate" stance to not scare the normies, but in that podcast he's literally doing EXACTLY what we've all been asking for.
I'm SO FUCKING PISSED at TheGatewayPundit for pulling this shit out of context, in order to attack one of MAGA's few remaining allies in the Senate. If we throw Ted Cruz under the bus for critiquing mere "rhettoric" when he's literally the #1 fighter for Trump in the senate right now, we might as well give up entirely.
Yes, I want more 100% MAGA people in government and wish we had better. But where are these better people? I'll take a Ted Cruz who is about 90% MAGA, call him out when he fucks up, but does a better job than 99% of the Senate.
Until we get MAGA in the senate, lets stop throwing people under the bus for a couple second segment among a 15+ minute argument about why we need to actually investigate the 2020 election,
This right here is why we’ll never be the “echo chamber” the left likes to claim we are.
Great post.
Cruz is a politician.
He also was our best and only chance of getting Trump a second term on January 6, with his 10-day audit plan.
Antifa/BLM and Qtards threw that all down the drain with the asinine and criminal Capitol invasion.
Blame the retards who sabotaged Trump (including some here), not Cruz.
We have to stop infighting. Anyone who stood up like ted did deserves some faith. Stop fighting each other.
I don't conceded that anything Trump said or did was reckless or irresponsible. Anyone trying to package it that way for the normies is a surrender monkey who IS ACCEPTING THE LEFT'S PREMISE.
No way, no how, should Cruz or any Republican concede that Trump was reckless or irresponsible when talking about the FACT that they STOPPED COUNTING VOTES WHEN THINGS WERE NOT GOING THEIR WAY.
They literally STOLE an election are trying to pretend the guy who didn't "quietly accept" that is the bad one in the scenario.
But you're correct, GP is a click bait asshole who often quotes things out of context.
Cruz is mostly critiquing the the rhetoric (style), or at least that's my take listening to the audio.
I agree that Trump won in a landslide, I've seen the evidence myself which is clear as day, and doesn't require relying on any of the more fantastical or unproven claims. Literally election night I was founding a few hundred-thousand Biden only votes in states, where president-only votes don't happen historically.
I don't think telling the truth is irresponsible. So I do dissagree with Cruz on that point. But it's not the level of critique or Trump bashing that the article makes it out to be.
I took Cruz's comments on rhetoric did criticize Trump, but the overall interview is Pro-Trump. And the GP click bait pissed off a lot of people I know!
I agree. I don't want Cruz or any other conservative giving an inch. The strongest possible language should be used at every opportunity. Any less than that is illustrating complicity in the fraud. We played by the rules while they overtly stole the damn thing. THEY should be walking on pins and needles, not us.
Personally, I don't trust Cruz. It's clear he's one of the rehearsed politicians that jumped over all the proper establishment hurdles to become a DC insider. We need homegrown politicians that proved their conservative, anti-globalist chops BEFORE entering office. And preferably, no more Ivy League assholes. I'll take a guy with a degree from a community college over one from Harvard at this point. Any day of the week.
u/fuckrioters is asserting that Cruz didn't concede DJT did anything reckless or irresponsible. Do you disagree with his assessment?
Nope. None of this matters. Cruz is a traitor. Want your mind blown? So is Rand Paul. Not a single senator objected to Georgia. Not one senator stood up and did the right thing. ZERO! We will forever vote for ceremonial purposes only. I know it's a hard pill to swallow but people need to wake the fuck up and acknowledge what just happened. A Leninist-Bolshevik revolution just happened in the United States. Our government has been usurped by the banking cabal and their axis of evil. We are no longer citizens, we are subjects. There is no political solution. I'm still not convinced Roger Stone was wrong when he said the Trumps were Romanov'd. I believe congress are prisoners under threat of violence just like Hollywood. "If only they knew how bad it really was."
Hahhaha no, they're just assholes that only care about themselves.
Diversity of tactics, dude. Let Ted talk.
Did McConnell even permit time for objections after the first one? My memory is a little fuzzy.
In case people forgot, Cruz was a backstabbed in 2016.
When Trump won, Lyin’ Ted was rebranded Lion Ted because once you win you have to govern and work with your less venomous ally snakes against the more venomous opponent snakes.
Cruz is a snake who serves his uses, but he gets no reverence from me.
Can you explain "Trumps were Romanov'd?"
How long ago did Stone say this?
Thank you for this! I am one of the many that's so discouraged I wouldn't have read the article. Using the impeachment to discuss election fraud isn't deflection, it's integral to DJT's defense.
Listen to Cruz’s podcast, I highly recommend it.
Amen Brother!
I see he is hiding that Fu#%ing pie hole of his. Nice cover up beard!
Cruz was trying to win brownie points with muh squad what a cuck
They can’t do shit. He’s a pussy. The GOP are a bunch of pussies. This shit is embarrassing.
If you look at what he said, it's not quite as bad as most on this thread are making it out to be.
I totally disagree with Cruz on this, but you could easily interpret his words as saying the post election tactics weren't focused enough and were bad optics as a result.
I fully expect downvotes for this post, but am not ready to throw Cruz out just yet.
Now he's going to lose it next election.
What role? Lmao he never really supported us in the first place.
Cuck
He was trying to get some of that AOC puss.
Bros (Trump) before commie hoes, and he failed the simplest of tests.
"Hey AOC, kewl tweet. Wanna stream Among Us together?"
great job defending liberals...we now know where you stand.
The fact that you say the capital was 'stormed' means you believe the msm narrative.
The headline also says that President Trump never proved election fraud in any court, which is true, because the corrupt courts all refused to see the case.
Ima go out on a limb here and not defen Cruz but attempt politician splain this. One of the thing we love about Daddy Trump is that he doesn't do politician/lawyer speak. He says what he thinking is simple terms always and we can trust that he means what he says, no weasel words. To most politicians this is an anathema because they are mostly lawyers come to age in that world and taught to speak that way over knee of court decorum. Was it stupid for him to say this, yes. Was it wrong for a court presentation point of view, no. A good lawyer will always tell their client to shut the hell up and say nothing, a good client will listen. Here Cruse is using lawyer speak to say that his "client" is brash with his words but he is not wrong. I have been side eyeing cruze for some time and this almost turned from him till I actually listen and looked at it through the lense of a lawyer. We have to be careful to not kick our allies to the curb if they don't speak the way we want them too, especially when what they say is in agreement with us. There people out there trying to get us to turn on anyone that supports Trump so they can isolate them. The imposters among us that will attempt to subvet us and divide us. Be mindful.
Agreed, and this is what I have been saying all along. Trump lost 50+ times in Court, how many times can he lose is all I keep hearing. Having a case tossed out because of legal standing is a loss sure, but it was never presided over, so he did not lose in court. That's super disingenuous to suggest they are one and the same.
I refer to it as the Spontaneous Capitol Tour. We should use that term.
Sigh...you’re a shill idiot. Perhaps someone can read this to you for comprehension: Starting at the 16:52 mark of the January 25th, 2021 episode of Verdict with Ted Cruz, Senator Ted Cruz states the following: “President Trump’s rhetoric, I think, went way too far over the line. I think it was both reckless and irresponsible because he said repeatedly—and he said over and over again—he won by a landslide; there was massive fraud; it was all stolen everywhere. That evidence, the campaign did not prove that in any court, and to make a determination about an election it has to be based on the evidence, and so simply saying the result you want, that’s not responsible and you’ve never heard me use language like that. What I’ve said is voter fraud is real, and we need to examine the evidence, and look at the actual facts; and in particular, what is the evidence of how much voter fraud occurred, and did it occur in sufficient quantities and in sufficient states to alter the outcome of the election. That would have been the mandate of the election commission; to assess.”
Yep Ted is a cuck.
Went to a Cruz 'virtual rally' this past weekend, wouldn't have gone if I'd seen this. I voted for Cruz in the past - keyword: past.
Note to GOP in 2024: You Cruz, you lose.
He objected to the electoral college even after the capitol incident, he's repeatedly said there was voter fraud, he offered to argue the SCOTUS case, etc etc. Is that cucked?
He'd suck anyone's scrotum and lick anyone's perineum as long as he's getting something out of it. Remember he was trashing Mr. Trump and later he was on his knees in front of him.
Well, that was just a really long soliloquy for Ted Cruz to say he isn't MAGA, which I already knew, and that he is on the other side, which I have believed since he accidentally overlooked to mention the 600K low interest loan his wife had from Goldman Sachs in 2015.
His argument is like saying there's no evidence of electromagnetism because the courts have refused to hear a debate about it.
Guess what, Ted? It doesn't matter what the fucking courts do. You know and I know and you and I both know that we both know this election was stolen. To say otherwise is gaslighting your electorate.
Actually watch the video, at least 1-2 minutes. He spends 15+ minutes saying that we haven't had an investigation or day in court, and makes the case that we NEED that investigation and day in court. He's literally agreeing with us.
Brilliant analogy on electromagnetism. I with you 100%
That’s not his argument at all. He said Trump team didn’t prove the fraud in court. But voter fraud is real, and Americans deserve investigation. Hence he objected. He didn’t deny voter fraud.
You know that I know that you know that I know that you know . .
That was a lot of knows at the end there. I don't know if you planned that.
As somebody that agrees with Cruz on like 95% of things, what he said he was incredibly slimy.
He knows that Trump cannot prove that evidence in a court because the courts would not even allow him to present the evidence.
>simply saying the results you want
>the mandate of the election commission (that does not exist)
cuckery
What did he say after that?
The video is in the article. Ted Cruz spends about 15 minutes arguing for why we need a real investigation, and a real day in court to present the evidence.
The article Title suggests he's gaslighting MAGA, but that's absolutely NOT the case if you watch a few minutes of the video.
He called it a terrorist attack.
I saw the interview shill.
I read the article too...
Watch the video. The article is misleading. At least 1-2 minutes. Ted Cruz is literally making the case for why we need a real investigation and day in court for the election fraud. Ted Cruz even says there WAS fraud.
I used to be a Cruz supporter back before 2016. Watching his behavior, hearing his statements, and seeing who he was associating with during his presidential campaign soured me on him, like it did most people here. I know many thought he had a strong redemption arc over the past few years, but the guy would still often end up demonstrating evidence of the same cuckservative behavior that he displayed back in 2016, so he never regained my support or trust. This latest from him is actually more expected than a surprise. I would never vote for Cruz even if we had fair elections.
I feel you man, I feel you.
Yep... GEOTUS gave him the correct name starting in the 2016 debates. He changed it to “Lion” during Ted’s opportunistic MAGA phase. The guy is a snake.
Like Lindsey he’d jump on the bandwagon to garner support and say a lot of MAGA things, but in the end he’s still the fork-tounged Ted we know from that amazing primary. Lyin’ Ted “Vote your conscience” Cruz.
Once he saw DJT ousted Lyin Ted went right back to his true self. It’s kinda like a poem often recited at Trump rallies.
I knew he was a scumbag when he blamed Trump for the leftist violence at Trump's Chicago rally in 2016.
Cruz made sure the media didn't have to do it. He thought he would curry favor with the media by doing their lying and gaslighting for them. He made sure they would be able to say "Ted Cruz says 'Trump's inflammatory rhetoric caused all this violence.'"