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WU_HAN_FRU 71 points ago +92 / -21

I told y'all, but you didn't believe me.

Ted Cruz is a selfish coward who will throw his own JFK-assassinating relatives under the bus to save his own position.

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learntocode 14 points ago +17 / -3

i dont mind selfish cowards if they execute the peoples will

there i said it

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WU_HAN_FRU 7 points ago +9 / -2

Does it look like Ted Cruz "executed the people's will" to you?

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learntocode 4 points ago +7 / -3

I listened to the podcast in question and yeah, it sounds like he did. Politics is the art of the possible and without blackmailing, bribing, or using threats of violent retribution he did. The other side did all three and won. Kinda makes ya think.

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WU_HAN_FRU 3 points ago +4 / -1

You have to explain that. I already understand the part about "the other side." You can skip that part.

Explain what "the people's will" is and how Cruz did it.

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stratocaster_patriot 3 points ago +3 / -0

Well hold on now. Do we even trust the people's will anymore? What if it is "the people's will" to abandon capitalism in favor of Communism? We have shown that so many people are not even worthy of expressing an opinion and certainly not capable or worthy of voting. I would agree with you if we were to define 'by and for the people'. For the people, no issue. By the people, certainly not all of them should be involved as has been made abundantly clear.

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learntocode 0 points ago +1 / -1

I am too dumb to really know the difference. You seem to have a more nuanced way of describing things. I think what I want is "the peoples will" at this point. Too much stupid shit has taken place, I dont remember how to be reasonable anymore.

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FuckRioters 2 points ago +3 / -1

Watch the actual video, the article is misleading.

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borscht-nazi 2 points ago +2 / -0

What exactly is misleading?

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MAGA1775 2 points ago +3 / -1

It was clear when he was one of the lead Never Trumpers back in 2016.

Some people thought he was MAGA after that since he seemed to stand up for Trump but it was all an act. Lyin' Ted.

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tombombadil 1 point ago +1 / -0

He was never a never Trumper. Idk what you are talking about. There was a few months after the primaries where he wouldn't comment on things related to Trump, but he was not a never Trumper. He literally endorsed Trump.

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MAGA1775 1 point ago +2 / -1

He was absolutely a Never Trumper.

He refused to even endorse Trump at the RNC and he was booed for it.

He was going around "debating" pro Trump people and crowds saying Trump did not have the temperament to be President.

He finally endorsed him a month before the election but he was never a loyal Trump supporter.

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stratocaster_patriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

To be fair, that didn't take much effort or insight on your part since the exact same thing is true of all of them and has been for a very long time.

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WU_HAN_FRU 2 points ago +3 / -1

People here are saying it's not true of Cruz.

They obviously need to have the obvious explained to them.

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N900mixalot -6 points ago +12 / -18

No.

You need to listen to what he was saying about what they were doing at the time of the breach.

They were going to object and request a committee but the breach is what turned the opposers off. That's when he lost support.

That night, they should have stood firm but they gave up, probably due to optics. But this Gateway Pundit story is not accurate.

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runeu 12 points ago +16 / -4

I stopped looking at gateway pundit links

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FuckRioters 1 point ago +4 / -3

That website is such garbage. They were one of the biggest pushers of "arrests tomorrow hopium" nonsense. I'm embarrassed that website is still posted here.

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WeCax49 11 points ago +19 / -8

Cruz still objected in spite of all this.

And yes, The Gateway Pundit is knowingly lying.

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WU_HAN_FRU 7 points ago +8 / -1

Yeah, his "committee" so that he doesn't have to take responsibility for his vote. That is simply more evidence of his cowardice.

He lies and gaslights and misrepresents events throughout this video, as he has mostly done throughout his career.

And it wasn't even enough that he makes excuses for his cowardice in changing his tune because of "the breach" (which does not excuse it).

He also gaslights viewers, using the Democrat talking point that Trump "couldn't win in any court" while omitting the fact that the mountain of damning evidence of millions of votes being manufactured, thrown out, and changed was systematically suppressed by all those courts.

Gateway's characterization of Cruz's comments here is accurate.