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CannonballJunior 4 points ago +8 / -4

They're referring to this as "cucked":

President Trump’s rhetoric, I think, went way too far over the line. I think it was both reckless and irresponsible because he said repeatedly—and he said over and over again—he won by a landslide; there was massive fraud; it was all stolen everywhere. That evidence, the campaign did not prove that in any court, and to make a determination about an election it has to be based on the evidence, and so simply saying the result you want, that’s not responsible and you’ve never heard me use language like that.

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KekistanPM 7 points ago +8 / -1

Yeah, that rhetoric about going peacefully to the Capitol...that was surely code for everyone getting their guns out and shooting up the place! /s

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CannonballJunior 1 point ago +4 / -3

I think cruz was referring to the President's statements in November & December prior to January 6th, not to the speech on the 6th.

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CannonballJunior 1 point ago +1 / -0

B/C the people who did it had preplanned it for days and weeks in advance - they had no interest in President Trump's speech. Hell, they began their incident while he was still speaking! They started removing barricades about 12 minutes BEFORE Trump left the stage, and it's reportedly about a 35-40 minute walk from the speech area to the capitol. So clearly the people involved in the capitol incursion weren't at the speech. It's also known at least a few of them were also involved in the antifa/blm riots last summer.

Bottomline, Trump did not call for violence - he called for the exact opposite, and people claiming he did are viciously stupid, or grotesquely dishonest, or BOTH.

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PaleoPopulist 3 points ago +4 / -1

I don't know man, it sounds like he's betraying us. Can you give a better explanation or view for what he said and meant?

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CannonballJunior 1 point ago +1 / -0

Why are you directing that question to me?

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PaleoPopulist 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well, I'm understanding that quote differently than you are, so I want to get your perception of it.

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CannonballJunior 1 point ago +1 / -0

What the devil are you even basing your opinion of "my understanding" on? I've said nothing at all that would cause you to arrive at your curious view of my understanding.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 0 points ago +1 / -1

Yes. Cruz re-stated what DJT said, in language more tuned to his audience.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer -1 points ago +0 / -1

Now look at the next paragraph. Cruz merely re-states what DJT said, in language more tuned to his audience.

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CannonballJunior 3 points ago +3 / -0

I read the next paragraph. Doesn't alter the fact that Cruz's language about Trump was absolute shit.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 0 points ago +1 / -1

Context is king. In context, Cruz is saying what DJT did. The quote mining GP did is shit. Taking a tiny sound byte out of context is shit.

We should not reduce ourselves to leftist shit. Although I agree with you, I would prefer for these tiny soundbytes to not be there, it doesn't change Cruz' overall meaning. He's fighting for Trump, before Congress.

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CannonballJunior 0 points ago +1 / -1

Context is not the issue here. He plainly accused the President of being reckless and irresponsible, which he was not. It's pure shit for cruz to have done that. Only context that could make that okay is if one actually believed the President really was reckless and irresponsible.