Absolutely! I'm so fucking sick of Republicans. We need another party immediately!!! Don't listen to doomers about splitting the vote. THEY are just afraid of losing power/money/influence
A third party would hand them control indefinitely. We need to take back the GOP primary everyone basically. From a pure numbers game we cannot go that route believe me I wish we could.
They already have unlimited and indefinite power. Did you see what happened in November? They can do whatever they want and control the entire governmental, media and tech apparatus.
The best thing to do at this point, in my opinion, is to remove so much support for the GOP that even their manipulation (in order to create the illusion of party choice) of elections to give the GOP some seats won't be possible. It's the globalists and that's it. Show the world that. Destroy the illusion of 2 party rule by completely decimating the GOP
Then so be it. I will not vote GOP again, and I think a lot of Trump supporters won't, either. The people saying we need to primary them need to realize, we have to primary them ALL. The ENTIRE GOP. Not going to happen. If it were so easy, why didn't we do it before. And BTW, we wouldn't be creating a third party. There is only ONE party right now.
Honestly what has voting gop gotten us? I’d rather start a new party and build our base. I estimate 75% of the gop will leave the party and there are normal dems who would join. Voting for the gop is a waste they don’t represent us at all.
Our votes don’t matter anyway... For every vote a new party could get, the government could easily “find” twice as many fraudulent votes, down to a local level. I don’t think a new party is the solution here.
Soo not a doomer but I definitely think the vote will split. Those that are MAGA patriots and those that are RINOs. To quote some lady with cankles who won't shut up.... "at this point, what difference does it make" since nothing is being done to ensure election integrity for even 2022 elections?!
Right now is the time to make the Patriot Party, regardless of the split vote. That doesn't matter if things like Dominion can determine the vote anyways.
I agree it's time to throw that caution to the wind, although you're demonstrating not understanding the caution. It would be better if you understood it.
Woodrow Wilson signed the Fed and IRS into law, the single thing impacting us the worst now. None of our current problems would exist without that financial backing.
Wilson only got elected due to exactly the type of party split we're all proposing. It failed.
To succeed, we need to make the RNC the irrelevant 3rd party, and the Patriot party the main party. It's a tall order to make that happen by 2022, even if there were 0 fraud.
There are no parties. There are only ideologies. There are traitors and patriots, that is all. How a person tags himself is irrelevant - only action counts.
They can’t do shit. He’s a pussy. The GOP are a bunch of pussies. This shit is embarrassing.
Absolutely! I'm so fucking sick of Republicans. We need another party immediately!!! Don't listen to doomers about splitting the vote. THEY are just afraid of losing power/money/influence
This. It may be painful at first, but in the long run, it'll pay off. New party NOW! I'm done voting R.
A third party would hand them control indefinitely. We need to take back the GOP primary everyone basically. From a pure numbers game we cannot go that route believe me I wish we could.
They already have unlimited and indefinite power. Did you see what happened in November? They can do whatever they want and control the entire governmental, media and tech apparatus.
The best thing to do at this point, in my opinion, is to remove so much support for the GOP that even their manipulation (in order to create the illusion of party choice) of elections to give the GOP some seats won't be possible. It's the globalists and that's it. Show the world that. Destroy the illusion of 2 party rule by completely decimating the GOP
Then so be it. I will not vote GOP again, and I think a lot of Trump supporters won't, either. The people saying we need to primary them need to realize, we have to primary them ALL. The ENTIRE GOP. Not going to happen. If it were so easy, why didn't we do it before. And BTW, we wouldn't be creating a third party. There is only ONE party right now.
A "patriot party" or something similar would instantly have more support than the GOP, making the GOP the third party.
They have control indefinitely. Apparently you missed 2020?
It would take a generation or more to gain ground.. In that time the democrats will have all but declared and seized a dictatorship
Already have.
You have no idea how long it might or might not take, nor if voting will ever matter again.
They already have, my friend, so what have we got to lose?
It will hand them the country for decades. They'll damage it beyond repair
You guys aren't getting it. The elections are rigged, and the country is already theirs.
Honestly what has voting gop gotten us? I’d rather start a new party and build our base. I estimate 75% of the gop will leave the party and there are normal dems who would join. Voting for the gop is a waste they don’t represent us at all.
Our votes don’t matter anyway... For every vote a new party could get, the government could easily “find” twice as many fraudulent votes, down to a local level. I don’t think a new party is the solution here.
Time for a surprise party.
Surprise bureaucrats! You're dangling from a lamp post.
Agreed it's not "the" solution, but the risk inherent to the political effort is at an all-time low.
Soo not a doomer but I definitely think the vote will split. Those that are MAGA patriots and those that are RINOs. To quote some lady with cankles who won't shut up.... "at this point, what difference does it make" since nothing is being done to ensure election integrity for even 2022 elections?!
Right now is the time to make the Patriot Party, regardless of the split vote. That doesn't matter if things like Dominion can determine the vote anyways.
Wait. State legislators all across the country are interested in securing future elections. You can contact ALL of them!
Remember, they all said there's nothing wrong with their elections.....
no balls before Jan 20th = full of shit right now if they say otherwise.
I agree it's time to throw that caution to the wind, although you're demonstrating not understanding the caution. It would be better if you understood it.
Woodrow Wilson signed the Fed and IRS into law, the single thing impacting us the worst now. None of our current problems would exist without that financial backing.
Wilson only got elected due to exactly the type of party split we're all proposing. It failed.
To succeed, we need to make the RNC the irrelevant 3rd party, and the Patriot party the main party. It's a tall order to make that happen by 2022, even if there were 0 fraud.
There are no parties. There are only ideologies. There are traitors and patriots, that is all. How a person tags himself is irrelevant - only action counts.
While I like your sentiment, it's not true. There are parties. And as long as Ronald McDonald is the head of the RNC, they are useless.
Totally agree. This may well be the end of both the Democrat and Republican Party. Now that I think on it, probably should be.
2016 shouldve been.