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FuckRioters 397 points ago +412 / -15

Except the article is misleading. Watch a few minutes of the video. At least 1-2 minutes. This quote is him critiquing rhettoric (style) in the middle of a LONG segment about why we need a real investigation, and real court case to examine the evidence, and that we've been denied that so far. Ted Cruz is literally making our case for us.

He's packaging it from a more "moderate" stance to not scare the normies, but in that podcast he's literally doing EXACTLY what we've all been asking for.

I'm SO FUCKING PISSED at TheGatewayPundit for pulling this shit out of context, in order to attack one of MAGA's few remaining allies in the Senate. If we throw Ted Cruz under the bus for critiquing mere "rhettoric" when he's literally the #1 fighter for Trump in the senate right now, we might as well give up entirely.

Yes, I want more 100% MAGA people in government and wish we had better. But where are these better people? I'll take a Ted Cruz who is about 90% MAGA, call him out when he fucks up, but does a better job than 99% of the Senate.

Until we get MAGA in the senate, lets stop throwing people under the bus for a couple second segment among a 15+ minute argument about why we need to actually investigate the 2020 election,

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Barbs 161 points ago +165 / -4

This right here is why we’ll never be the “echo chamber” the left likes to claim we are.

Great post.

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QuranIsToiletPaper 18 points ago +23 / -5

Cruz is a politician.

He also was our best and only chance of getting Trump a second term on January 6, with his 10-day audit plan.

Antifa/BLM and Qtards threw that all down the drain with the asinine and criminal Capitol invasion.

Blame the retards who sabotaged Trump (including some here), not Cruz.

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JeremiahKassin 3 points ago +3 / -0

Moronic. What happened at the Capitol was a stage play. Millions stood on the front lawn, singing protest songs and holding placards. A few dozen entered the building, and walked around. No one on the side of the government was killed because of anything that happened that day. Two police officers died under mysterious circumstances afterward. I wonder why that happened?

Probably the same reason four of our newly minted MAGA congressmen died just after being elected.

Probably the same reason the Clintons have a trail of bodies behind them.

The congressional vote afterward had nothing to do with a few people taking a tour of the Capitol building after the police put forward a token effort in keeping them out. The same people who voted in a fraudulently elected president were the same people behind the toothless "riot."

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MichelesPenis 10 points ago +12 / -2

We have to stop infighting. Anyone who stood up like ted did deserves some faith. Stop fighting each other.

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VenusDe 48 points ago +53 / -5

I don't conceded that anything Trump said or did was reckless or irresponsible. Anyone trying to package it that way for the normies is a surrender monkey who IS ACCEPTING THE LEFT'S PREMISE.

No way, no how, should Cruz or any Republican concede that Trump was reckless or irresponsible when talking about the FACT that they STOPPED COUNTING VOTES WHEN THINGS WERE NOT GOING THEIR WAY.

They literally STOLE an election are trying to pretend the guy who didn't "quietly accept" that is the bad one in the scenario.

But you're correct, GP is a click bait asshole who often quotes things out of context.

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FuckRioters 21 points ago +24 / -3

Cruz is mostly critiquing the the rhetoric (style), or at least that's my take listening to the audio.

I agree that Trump won in a landslide, I've seen the evidence myself which is clear as day, and doesn't require relying on any of the more fantastical or unproven claims. Literally election night I was founding a few hundred-thousand Biden only votes in states, where president-only votes don't happen historically.

I don't think telling the truth is irresponsible. So I do dissagree with Cruz on that point. But it's not the level of critique or Trump bashing that the article makes it out to be.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 4 points ago +4 / -0

Did Cruz actually label DJT as irresponsible?

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Smol_Gobbo 14 points ago +14 / -0

He said it was irresponsible to claim that he won big before proving it in the courts first, that’s pretty much it.

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FuckRioters 13 points ago +13 / -0

He's not saying Trump himself is irresponsible. He made a short comment about how specific statements were irresponsible. in particular claiming he had won in a landslide. Based on my view of the evidence, Trump did win in a landslide. And that's based on EVIDENCE, and not vague kracken, or q-anon style stuff that's vague with weak support.

So I dissagree with Cruz's statement, but he's not really bashing Trump that harshly.

For example, I could say the manner in which Cruz worded his critique in those few seconds was irresponsible, but it's not really the same as me accusing Cruz of being irresponsible in general. Cruz is 90% to 95% on our side, which I'll take over nearly everyone else in DC.

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GitmoJoe 10 points ago +11 / -1

I took Cruz's comments on rhetoric did criticize Trump, but the overall interview is Pro-Trump. And the GP click bait pissed off a lot of people I know!

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dr_gonzo 4 points ago +4 / -0

I agree. I don't want Cruz or any other conservative giving an inch. The strongest possible language should be used at every opportunity. Any less than that is illustrating complicity in the fraud. We played by the rules while they overtly stole the damn thing. THEY should be walking on pins and needles, not us.

Personally, I don't trust Cruz. It's clear he's one of the rehearsed politicians that jumped over all the proper establishment hurdles to become a DC insider. We need homegrown politicians that proved their conservative, anti-globalist chops BEFORE entering office. And preferably, no more Ivy League assholes. I'll take a guy with a degree from a community college over one from Harvard at this point. Any day of the week.

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Uncle_Jose 2 points ago +4 / -2

Personally, I don't trust Cruz. It's clear he's one of the rehearsed politicians that jumped over all the proper establishment hurdles to become a DC insider.

Yup. Trump said he won big, cause he had to. If he had been quiet like Cruz is saying, no one would know otherwise. He had to speak out, as he was the only one doing it. Trump also knew court of public opinion, especially when it comes to something the media and now courts wont hear or talk about, is especially important when you are trying to be silenced.

Cruz isn't stupid, he knows this. He's saying just enough to be "critical" of Trump, but not enough to throw off any stupid plebs into not voting him back in office, which they will. He waited until dozens of courts threw cases out the window on 'technicalities' before he started saying anything about needing investigations. We had investigations, we got the evidence, we don't need more investigations, we need courts and trials now. But of course, he isn't pushing for that. Just like before the 6th, and 2 hours after the "siege", in those 2 hours he completely forgot about the 10 day investigation he was pushing.

Like everything else he's done over the past 4 years, he's talk. He's all talk, he never actually does anything. 90% MAGA is still a 10% RINO. And a RINO is a RINO.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 3 points ago +3 / -0

u/fuckrioters is asserting that Cruz didn't concede DJT did anything reckless or irresponsible. Do you disagree with his assessment?

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FuckRioters 2 points ago +3 / -1

Cruz makes a short comment, suggesting the rhetoric (style) around winning in a landslide was irresponsible. However, it's not quite the level of bashing trump that the article and title suggests. His tone of voice is mostly "trump did X, y, z which wasn't ideal, but..."

But that's only a few seconds of critique, when he spends 15+ minutes laying out the case that there was fraud, and that we need an investigation and day in court, and that we never got that.

So for example, I might say Cruz's wording in that particular comment was irresponsible, but that critique is only about Cruz's specific comments those few seconds, and not about Cruz in general or what he says during the wider 15 minutes.

I watched about 15 minutes of the clip, and Cruz spends 95% of it arguing on our behalf, and the other 5% saying things that mildly annoy me. I don't agree with Trump all the time either, so unless we're expecting puritans, the podcast taken in it's entirety is something we should be very happy about ... that Cruz is still fighting for us.

Instead, MAGA was tricked into bashing one of our few allies for a few comments that were out of place.

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Scooby 7 points ago +23 / -16

Nope. None of this matters. Cruz is a traitor. Want your mind blown? So is Rand Paul. Not a single senator objected to Georgia. Not one senator stood up and did the right thing. ZERO! We will forever vote for ceremonial purposes only. I know it's a hard pill to swallow but people need to wake the fuck up and acknowledge what just happened. A Leninist-Bolshevik revolution just happened in the United States. Our government has been usurped by the banking cabal and their axis of evil. We are no longer citizens, we are subjects. There is no political solution. I'm still not convinced Roger Stone was wrong when he said the Trumps were Romanov'd. I believe congress are prisoners under threat of violence just like Hollywood. "If only they knew how bad it really was."

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80960KA 12 points ago +12 / -0

I believe congress are prisoners under threat of violence

Hahhaha no, they're just assholes that only care about themselves.

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Garrettlst 5 points ago +7 / -2

And where does Satan enter this picture. Are we to believe naively that these people are just bad? This is a spiritual war and demonic spirits are controlling these people.

The greatest trick the devil ever played was to fool people that he doesn’t exist.

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80960KA 3 points ago +3 / -0

Are we to believe naively that these people are just bad?

I don't think Satan's direct action is needed to tempt shitbag people into public office. It's difficult for honest people to make it because they're honest and the system selects against that, and it's easy for psychopaths because the system selects for it.

Satan doesn't need to be piloting around assholes like shikigami, he's much more sophisticated than that. He made a machine to bring them right to his door on their own volition.

If you have a mouse problem, do you go around catching all the mice individually, or do you just set up some traps and let the mice come to you?

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 3 points ago +3 / -0

He's been around for a long long year ...

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Desensitized 3 points ago +4 / -1

Diversity of tactics, dude. Let Ted talk.

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NotQuiteHuman 2 points ago +2 / -0

Did McConnell even permit time for objections after the first one? My memory is a little fuzzy.

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_-Th0r-_ 2 points ago +6 / -4

In case people forgot, Cruz was a backstabbed in 2016.

When Trump won, Lyin’ Ted was rebranded Lion Ted because once you win you have to govern and work with your less venomous ally snakes against the more venomous opponent snakes.

Cruz is a snake who serves his uses, but he gets no reverence from me.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

Can you explain "Trumps were Romanov'd?"

How long ago did Stone say this?

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 3 points ago +4 / -1

Thank you for this! I am one of the many that's so discouraged I wouldn't have read the article. Using the impeachment to discuss election fraud isn't deflection, it's integral to DJT's defense.

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maestrolive 1 point ago +2 / -1

Listen to Cruz’s podcast, I highly recommend it.

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philnmdg 3 points ago +3 / -0

Amen Brother!