Wow, that Trump take-over of the GOP is going real well !
Except for all the GOP judges who ruled NO STANDING on election fraud cases, the GOP state legislators and election officials who certified the stolen election, and the GOP Congressmen who refused to question Biden's fake electors.
We're not going to take over the GOP. We'd literally need to primary all of them. IF it were so easy, why haven't we done it yet? It won't happen. New party, or bust.
If we can't win a primary then how would we win the election? I think the problem so bar has been that most Republicans haven't realized how bad the party has become. Trump has awakened the base which is the kick start we need to make the gop the maga party.
If the elections are rigged, we will never in anyway. The GOP is partly to blame because they let the steal happen. They need to be taught a lesson. They lost my vote forever, and I used to vote a straight R ticket. No more. If there is no new party, I will just vote for local issues, and that's it. I've had enough if these cowards.
I guess so. I'm telling you all right now, you'll never "take over" the GOP. If you keep voting for Republicans, you're just gonna get more of the same. Don't say I didn't warn ya. Personally, I'm done with them. If Trump doesn't start a new party, then we keep on keeping on with our one-party system.
I'll go whatever way Trump goes despite my feelings on the subject. I'd prefer we have our own patriot version of a RINO but if 3rd party is the way then i'm all in.
Feel free to have that attitude about it. I, on the other hand, believe this fight isn't even close to being done and i'll do what I have to to keep this from spiraling out of control. If you want to think all is lost that's your choice but I don't believe it at all. Rough times ahead? Yes. Forever doomed? Not a fucking chance.
A new party would be ideal, but the reality of the scenario is that the Republican Party carries a certain number of voters with it. Take it from someone from a country that has a multi party system... do not fracture the right or else you’ll spend 15 years in the political wilderness infighting. Better to continue to dominate the Republican Party and win people on board over time. It also has the network and fundraising apparatus ready to go.
You all can do what you want, but I'm never giving my vote to a pussy-ass republican again (which basically means I'm not voting R because they are all little bitches). I hope they get slaughtered (at the polls) in 2022. Our country is already fucked, anyway.
This is a good start. No one will follow rinos out of the party. Let the rinos start their own party. They can call it The Cucks for Cash Party. The CCP.
We already are the Republican party it's just time we take what is ours. The sweetest revenge will be to banish the establishment who dedicated there whole crooked careers to what they thought was their party.
Can’t save the Republican Party it’s infested with commie globalist uniparty scum, I won’t consider ever voting for those shit heads again and I don’t want to hear a damn word about splitting the vote, they only vote conservative when they are out of power.
I've been trying to say this to everyone. As a libertarian who has willfully wasted my vote in the past because R candidates are such dogshit...Trump showed the way. Focus on the primaries, use the Republican party as a dead skin mask.
I’ll rejoin the party to vote in primaries MAGA only, IFFFF the patriot party doesn’t come to fruition. I don’t believe voting will do a damn thing ever again though.
I'm so sick of this Trump cult nonsense. I call out President Trump when I disagree but do these RINOs not understand why we are pissed at them? They violated the constitution and stabbed us all in the back by voting to impeach President Trump when he was not given due process and clearly did not commit an impeachable offense. These RINOs are all deranged.
I don't deny that it will cause losses in the near future, but so be it. One party must be destroyed for the other to take it's place. The GOP is as good as dead to me. Even if we lose for a while due to a split vote, then that is what must happen.
I get the idea of losing in the short term to win in the long term and Im glad that McCain and Romney got their asses kicked by Obama to make way for Trump and Trumpism to make way, but I think this way of going about it is wrong and self destructive.
First off, political parties are just machines and thats it. They are private little legal mafias that have applications like any other tool or machine. The Democrat and Republican parties are the two most powerful ones, and no others even come close. Now we are in a really good position of taking over one of the most powerful machines, or at the very least carving out a section of it, to further our ideals and I think its a stupid idea to instead of pursuing this goal further to just throw all that progress away and to start from scratch for basically no real reason other than some bruised egos.
Theres like a 99% chance a Patriot Party is formed and its run by a complete sociopathic grifter who does nothing but take donations and repeats facebook Trump memes back at people before collapsing after 2 years at best and accomplishes absolutely nothing other than acting as a giant demoralizing embarrassment for our side
And splitting MAGA, time, money and Vote for 48 months. Teddy Roosevelt is on Mount Rushmore and even he couldn’t win a 3rd party run. This is sheer insanity to, at the pinnacle of MAGA power, to to divide and “conquer.”
There are a LOT of just genuinely stupid people across the board of politics who dont understand it at all. They dont get that Parties are machines to advance people into positions of power and dont know their applications or how to use them. They dont get the very VERY advantageous position MAGA people are at right now with us being on the brink of taking over one of the two major parties in America and want to throw that opportunity away because of some ignorant and egotistical reasons they see as a "fuck you" to Biden or whoever when they are in fact just hurting themselves.
I say this all the time, anyone who wants a third party instead of taking over the GOP is either dumb or a saboteur
This! The GOP is filled with many Conservative Inc. types who bow down to any sort of political pressure. Push those pussies out, take over the machinery and start winning.
Well if Congress does not get the voting situation fixed and do away with electronic voting machines and all the other voter fraud then Republicans will never get elected again and before you know America be Venezuela 2.0.
Wow, that Trump take-over of the GOP is going real well !
Except for all the GOP judges who ruled NO STANDING on election fraud cases, the GOP state legislators and election officials who certified the stolen election, and the GOP Congressmen who refused to question Biden's fake electors.
Are they playing a psychological game? Pretend to be leaving to stop all the base people leaving the party because of them.
Where are these "officials" abandoning the GOP going? To the Commie Party?
who are those officials anyway? imaginary?
Doesn't matter.
Don't donate a dime to the party.
Give it directly to the candidates that you want to support.
I wouldn’t leave anything behind these backstabbers
Yeah, they are feeling the heat
Like, for decades they played the uniparty game well. The ones who realized what was going on were smeared and labeled as conspiracy theorists.
Now it's on plain sight. They better do something to make us forget or at least accept
and the primaries being a contest in which a private party writes the rules and can unilaterally choose the winner with legal backing
I'm fine with Trump Cult. Reddit calls us MAGA cultists.
I'm fine with it, if it's equally accepted to call them the Commie Cult.
im fine with america first, screw china, middle east peace deals, and exposing the swamp if thats a cult so be it.
We're not going to take over the GOP. We'd literally need to primary all of them. IF it were so easy, why haven't we done it yet? It won't happen. New party, or bust.
If we can't win a primary then how would we win the election? I think the problem so bar has been that most Republicans haven't realized how bad the party has become. Trump has awakened the base which is the kick start we need to make the gop the maga party.
If the elections are rigged, we will never in anyway. The GOP is partly to blame because they let the steal happen. They need to be taught a lesson. They lost my vote forever, and I used to vote a straight R ticket. No more. If there is no new party, I will just vote for local issues, and that's it. I've had enough if these cowards.
So then you choose bust.
I guess so. I'm telling you all right now, you'll never "take over" the GOP. If you keep voting for Republicans, you're just gonna get more of the same. Don't say I didn't warn ya. Personally, I'm done with them. If Trump doesn't start a new party, then we keep on keeping on with our one-party system.
I'll go whatever way Trump goes despite my feelings on the subject. I'd prefer we have our own patriot version of a RINO but if 3rd party is the way then i'm all in.
I'm not sure it matters at this point.
Feel free to have that attitude about it. I, on the other hand, believe this fight isn't even close to being done and i'll do what I have to to keep this from spiraling out of control. If you want to think all is lost that's your choice but I don't believe it at all. Rough times ahead? Yes. Forever doomed? Not a fucking chance.
A new party would be ideal, but the reality of the scenario is that the Republican Party carries a certain number of voters with it. Take it from someone from a country that has a multi party system... do not fracture the right or else you’ll spend 15 years in the political wilderness infighting. Better to continue to dominate the Republican Party and win people on board over time. It also has the network and fundraising apparatus ready to go.
You all can do what you want, but I'm never giving my vote to a pussy-ass republican again (which basically means I'm not voting R because they are all little bitches). I hope they get slaughtered (at the polls) in 2022. Our country is already fucked, anyway.
New party = MAGA loses twice in same election
I'll go with that, but it's either them or us. One of us has to leave, because this party is no longer big enough for the both of us.
Base is good. Leaders not so much.
This is a good start. No one will follow rinos out of the party. Let the rinos start their own party. They can call it The Cucks for Cash Party. The CCP.
Republican Party infrastructure while nice is built for the uniparty. Not sure if it is salvageable
Luckily the Trump group has ALL the information....since they are the ones that obtained it!
We already are the Republican party it's just time we take what is ours. The sweetest revenge will be to banish the establishment who dedicated there whole crooked careers to what they thought was their party.
exactly this. we know what we want and what the party represents. if the establishment doesnt represent us theyre not in the party anyways.
RNC as an institution is too swampy. If Republicans wanted my votes/donations, they should have used my donations to protect my votes.
And nothing of value was lost.
This right here. We will gut the elephant and make it our own. 3rd party will never work.
Shoot the elephant let the lion hunt.
Lefties didn’t start their own party...They just took over the DNC. We can do the same to the GOP. We have the numbers!
Oh no, so sad
Well...bye! https://www.bizpacreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/bye.jpg
Correct
It's nice when the Republicans behave like they always have: surrender and run away crying.
Can’t save the Republican Party it’s infested with commie globalist uniparty scum, I won’t consider ever voting for those shit heads again and I don’t want to hear a damn word about splitting the vote, they only vote conservative when they are out of power.
Mitt Romney's fucking niece runs the RNC. Fuck those guys.
I've been trying to say this to everyone. As a libertarian who has willfully wasted my vote in the past because R candidates are such dogshit...Trump showed the way. Focus on the primaries, use the Republican party as a dead skin mask.
I’ll rejoin the party to vote in primaries MAGA only, IFFFF the patriot party doesn’t come to fruition. I don’t believe voting will do a damn thing ever again though.
Don’t let the door hit you on your way out
I'm so sick of this Trump cult nonsense. I call out President Trump when I disagree but do these RINOs not understand why we are pissed at them? They violated the constitution and stabbed us all in the back by voting to impeach President Trump when he was not given due process and clearly did not commit an impeachable offense. These RINOs are all deranged.
Do they need help closing the door?
Do we get cool robes and sneakers?
The average IQ of the remaining GOP just doubled.
SO FUCKING WHAT. Retirement and off to cushy jobs elsewhere? America was killed off by the RepubliCANT party. AMarxica now rises from the ashes.
Agreed. Reminder that anyone pushing to create a third party instead of taking over the republican party is either stupid or a saboteur
I'm pushing for it, and I'm neither.
I don't deny that it will cause losses in the near future, but so be it. One party must be destroyed for the other to take it's place. The GOP is as good as dead to me. Even if we lose for a while due to a split vote, then that is what must happen.
I get the idea of losing in the short term to win in the long term and Im glad that McCain and Romney got their asses kicked by Obama to make way for Trump and Trumpism to make way, but I think this way of going about it is wrong and self destructive.
First off, political parties are just machines and thats it. They are private little legal mafias that have applications like any other tool or machine. The Democrat and Republican parties are the two most powerful ones, and no others even come close. Now we are in a really good position of taking over one of the most powerful machines, or at the very least carving out a section of it, to further our ideals and I think its a stupid idea to instead of pursuing this goal further to just throw all that progress away and to start from scratch for basically no real reason other than some bruised egos.
Is a bruised ego the possibility to break the uniparty and create a proper opposition party that is not controlled?
Yes. Thinking you are going to successfully create a third party to challenge either major party head-on is indeed pure ego
3rd party = continuation of political graft and power grab - just called by a different name.
Theres like a 99% chance a Patriot Party is formed and its run by a complete sociopathic grifter who does nothing but take donations and repeats facebook Trump memes back at people before collapsing after 2 years at best and accomplishes absolutely nothing other than acting as a giant demoralizing embarrassment for our side
And splitting MAGA, time, money and Vote for 48 months. Teddy Roosevelt is on Mount Rushmore and even he couldn’t win a 3rd party run. This is sheer insanity to, at the pinnacle of MAGA power, to to divide and “conquer.”
There are a LOT of just genuinely stupid people across the board of politics who dont understand it at all. They dont get that Parties are machines to advance people into positions of power and dont know their applications or how to use them. They dont get the very VERY advantageous position MAGA people are at right now with us being on the brink of taking over one of the two major parties in America and want to throw that opportunity away because of some ignorant and egotistical reasons they see as a "fuck you" to Biden or whoever when they are in fact just hurting themselves.
I say this all the time, anyone who wants a third party instead of taking over the GOP is either dumb or a saboteur
We need the Patriot Party because the Republican Party holds the swamp.
This! The GOP is filled with many Conservative Inc. types who bow down to any sort of political pressure. Push those pussies out, take over the machinery and start winning.
I'm fine either way. We just keep kicking ass and taking names until something good happens.
I just love my cult and I hold it.
Well if Congress does not get the voting situation fixed and do away with electronic voting machines and all the other voter fraud then Republicans will never get elected again and before you know America be Venezuela 2.0.
In what universe is this bad news?