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ActualAdult 4 points ago +4 / -0

His lack of knowledge means that he can't provide evidence to support your claim.

this did not reach statistical significance

Your study does not constitute evidence.

  • it was on hamsters
  • the hamsters weren't wearing the masks, with all the mask wearing issues and fuck-ups that causes
  • the experiment didn't control for reduced air flow
  • they didn't even use COVID-19

I'm not going to deny science, but I am going to wait for some.

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Fignugent -1 points ago +1 / -2

it was on hamsters

means nothing, they're just a testable subject

the hamsters weren't wearing the masks, with all the mask wearing issues and fuck-ups that causes

means nothing, the efficacy of the membrane was the subject of the test, not how the membrane was attached to your face

the experiment didn't control for reduced air flow

absolutely meaningless

they didn't even use COVID-19

all droplets are the same


take a science class

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ActualAdult 2 points ago +2 / -0

the efficacy of the membrane was the subject of the test, not how the membrane was attached to your face

So the test wasn't testing masks. The test was testing mask materials (badly). Stop citing it as a test of masks.

absolutely meaningless

Of course it's not absolutely meaningless. They even apologise in the paper for failing to standardise airflow because they know themselves that it's a material factor.

take a science class

I feel I need to teach one. To you.

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Fignugent -2 points ago +1 / -3

So the test wasn't testing masks. The test was testing mask materials (badly). Stop citing it as a test of masks

same exact thing. N95 is the rating of the material, not a rating of the mask on your face

They even apologise in the paper for failing to standardise airflow because they know themselves that it's a material factor

i think you don't even understand what this means. the non-blocked group received more airflow because it wasn't blocked by the mask

this is NORMAL because if you were wearing a mask your airflow would be similarly obstructed

trying to match the airflow in the test would mean INCREASING the airflow in the cages that had mask blocks in place

would be like trying to draw conclusions from someone coughing in a house with the AC off and coughing with the AC on

the environments would be completely different and the study would be POINTLESS. you'd be comparing apples to oranges

take a science class

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ActualAdult 2 points ago +2 / -0

this is NORMAL because if you were wearing a mask your airflow would be similarly obstructed

Similarly? No. There would be a difference. The mask wouldn't be fitted properly, it'll spend only half its time covering their nose, it'll be getting damp, it'll be getting contaminated and it'll be taken off to eat, to cough, maybe even to talk.

the environments would be completely different and the study would be POINTLESS. you'd be comparing apples to oranges

Ah, ok. You DO understand the point I'm making. The environments are completely different and the study is pointless.

take a science class

I did physics and chemistry. I was invited to become a chemical engineer. I chose a different career but along the way picked up the ability to read and assess academic papers.

It's a skill you may find useful.