I forgot what it's called but there's an actual word to describe this sort of thinking. It's the idea where you can be reading a newspaper, notice that an article on a subject you know a lot about is just flat out wrong and full of nonsense that is at best incorrect and at worst actively malicious disinformation, and then you flip to the next page and read an article about something you don't know much about and then think "wow, that's really interesting, I didn't know that!", having somehow completely forgotten after the single page flip that the same newspaper you're reading had been completely and totally wrong just one article earlier.
I wish I could remember the word used to describe this phenomena, because it's a real thing and if more people took the time to consciously remind themselves of it I feel we'd all be a lot better off as a society simply because it would encourage critical thinking.
This. Most of them simply cannot make the intellectual leap. I'm vegan and I try this all the time on left leaning boards. Everyone will be circlejerking at how blatantly dishonest and collusive big media and big med is being pushing some shitty study and when I point out that they do this with politics too I get crickets
Michael Crichton liked to talk about The Murray Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect. Murray had nothing to do with it, but Michael discussed it with him once, and he figured the idea would get more traction if it was named after a Nobel Prize winning physicist.
The idea is that you read a story in the newspaper that you know something about and you are astonished how bad the reporting it. They author doesn't understand the issues, he doesn't understand the facts, the author confuses effects for causes, etc.
Then you turn the page, and the amnesia sets in. You forget how bad the reporting was when you understood the story, and you assume that the reporting on this other story, the one that you don't know anything about, is good.
You don't notice it unless you're well versed on the topic the media is lying about.
If you're well educated on some subject, or you see articles written about you or people you know personally, then finding the media to be trash is common. But if it never affected you, and you don't actually know anything of substance, then this would be the first time.
A good example is when CNN (iirc, I think it was CNN, one of the major news organizations) ran a story on "the hacker known as 4-chan". Anyone that actually knows what 4-chan is would watch that story and just be baffled at how absurdly wrong and incorrect it was, but anyone that doesn't know what 4-chan actually is wouldn't know that and would just assume the article was entirely correct and honest.
there's already people affiliated with the legacy media blaming the GME stock shenanigans on Gamergate and white supremacy right now. So in effect you're not wrong.
How can one simultaneously acknowledge that there is a huge MSM campaign to lie to them in favor of their benefactors, and also believe the MSM fairly, and accurately, covered Trump’s campaign and Administration?
It's a process, and everyone goes through at their own time. The media is stalwart. The media is mostly trustworthy. The media exaggerates. The media lies about some stuff. The media lies about most things. The media is deliberately lying about things to satisfy a certain agenda. The media is the enemy of the people.
The more the media lies, the more outrageously they do so, and the more people they specifically target with those lies, the more people will inevitably learn these lessons. Much of the time, these revelations cause retroactive re-examinations of past beliefs. And never does anyone go backwards up the chain.
Don't be bitter they haven't come all the way yet. Cheer them on for how far they've come so far.
FYI Dave Portnoy exposed a fake news scandal at ESPN similar in nature to Russiagate (Tom Brady-- Deflategate) just one year before Trump announced running for office.
Those of us who were following Portnoy back then already knew about Fake News MSM when Trump first started talking about it.
"We just wanted to play games."
"We just wanted to watch movies."
"We just wanted to play sportsball."
"We just wanted to knit."
"We just wanted to trade stonks."
They are break even for now at $24 an ounce. Costs are rising. They can't quadruple output because most silver is a byproduct of mining other metals. Economy is slowing and the mining of other industrial metals will be decreasing. They may have a few easy access silver mines, but most of the good surface mines have already been depleted and they will have a much more difficult time mining deeper, less fruitful deposits. Silver is becoming scarcer as it used in all high end electronics. The price has been strongly manipulated for several reasons. 6 months ago JPM was fined 1 billion for manipulating silver.
And they probably made a profit of $20b after the fine. Fines don't work if they are built into the cost of doing business. All the manipulated profits should have been taken.
This won’t do anything but prevent people from buying physical.
The CME and bullion banks are already in collusion...
You want to make the market show the true price of gold and silver?
Go after the hedge funds that are shorting gold and silver miners instead of the bullion itself.
Now the only question is, how long will it take for them to realize this fake news didn’t just recently start happening?
I forgot what it's called but there's an actual word to describe this sort of thinking. It's the idea where you can be reading a newspaper, notice that an article on a subject you know a lot about is just flat out wrong and full of nonsense that is at best incorrect and at worst actively malicious disinformation, and then you flip to the next page and read an article about something you don't know much about and then think "wow, that's really interesting, I didn't know that!", having somehow completely forgotten after the single page flip that the same newspaper you're reading had been completely and totally wrong just one article earlier.
I wish I could remember the word used to describe this phenomena, because it's a real thing and if more people took the time to consciously remind themselves of it I feel we'd all be a lot better off as a society simply because it would encourage critical thinking.
The Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect.
This. Most of them simply cannot make the intellectual leap. I'm vegan and I try this all the time on left leaning boards. Everyone will be circlejerking at how blatantly dishonest and collusive big media and big med is being pushing some shitty study and when I point out that they do this with politics too I get crickets
Up until they discover it lied about Trump probably lol
About the amount of time it takes for them to realize that we no longer have free and fair elections and that they can't vote themselves out of it.
Michael Crichton liked to talk about The Murray Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect. Murray had nothing to do with it, but Michael discussed it with him once, and he figured the idea would get more traction if it was named after a Nobel Prize winning physicist.
The idea is that you read a story in the newspaper that you know something about and you are astonished how bad the reporting it. They author doesn't understand the issues, he doesn't understand the facts, the author confuses effects for causes, etc.
Then you turn the page, and the amnesia sets in. You forget how bad the reporting was when you understood the story, and you assume that the reporting on this other story, the one that you don't know anything about, is good.
Is this really the first time they're noticing it?
You don't notice it unless you're well versed on the topic the media is lying about.
If you're well educated on some subject, or you see articles written about you or people you know personally, then finding the media to be trash is common. But if it never affected you, and you don't actually know anything of substance, then this would be the first time.
A good example is when CNN (iirc, I think it was CNN, one of the major news organizations) ran a story on "the hacker known as 4-chan". Anyone that actually knows what 4-chan is would watch that story and just be baffled at how absurdly wrong and incorrect it was, but anyone that doesn't know what 4-chan actually is wouldn't know that and would just assume the article was entirely correct and honest.
The only people who trust the media are the people who don't know anything.
The second the press writes a story about something you're an expert in, you realize how fucking stupid they are.
Well, when the only thing teaching kids today are the shouting heads on TV, it no wonder.
Gamergate II?
there's already people affiliated with the legacy media blaming the GME stock shenanigans on Gamergate and white supremacy right now. So in effect you're not wrong.
I meant "Gamergate II" as in, this is a similar situation where the MSM wakes up an apathetic group by unfairly demonizing them.
Yes.
The question is, do they think this fake news also happened with Trump? Somehow I don't think so.
I was just thinking this.
How can one simultaneously acknowledge that there is a huge MSM campaign to lie to them in favor of their benefactors, and also believe the MSM fairly, and accurately, covered Trump’s campaign and Administration?
The answer? Textbook double think in action.
I think this sums it up rather nicely: cognitive dissonance
If you go reading through the comments a lot are saying maybe Trump was right about them being the enemy of the people.
This is happening on Reddit.
I mean, it’s a small glimmer of hope for the future. We will have to see how it plays out.
I’ve seen one say “No wonder a lot of people voted for Mangoman”
So it’s working on some of them at least
It's a process, and everyone goes through at their own time. The media is stalwart. The media is mostly trustworthy. The media exaggerates. The media lies about some stuff. The media lies about most things. The media is deliberately lying about things to satisfy a certain agenda. The media is the enemy of the people.
The more the media lies, the more outrageously they do so, and the more people they specifically target with those lies, the more people will inevitably learn these lessons. Much of the time, these revelations cause retroactive re-examinations of past beliefs. And never does anyone go backwards up the chain.
Don't be bitter they haven't come all the way yet. Cheer them on for how far they've come so far.
I’ve seen some who noticed and some who don’t on wsb
I’m sure many bite their tongue because leftism is what gets you imaginary internet points on reddit
FYI Dave Portnoy exposed a fake news scandal at ESPN similar in nature to Russiagate (Tom Brady-- Deflategate) just one year before Trump announced running for office.
Those of us who were following Portnoy back then already knew about Fake News MSM when Trump first started talking about it.
Anyone who saw the "WMD" fiasco leading up to the Iraq invasion knew about fake news.
If you paid careful attention during Syria and Ukraine, you'd see the same thing.
Haha hopefully the libs there start to see the light. If this doesn’t red pill them, nothing will.
These fake news make be believe that GME was right choice.
GME sucks!
AMC TO THE MOON! 🚀🥮
Y'all have no sense of humor! 🤣
Wait until Reddit ban that sub.
If the interest suddenly hikes and many hedge funds collapse it they JuSt might
geez, these faggots are only about 5 years late to the party.
Redpills away!
Sigh. Good luck watching them lie about you for days/months/years on end and never having any respite. Welcome to the club.
CNN: “have you considered though, orange man bad?”
WSB: OMG YOURE SO HAWT muffled slurping noises
Beautiful but I still feel they’re incapable of thinking ‘perhaps orange man not as bad as news purport him to be’.
Would looooove to be wrong.
Some do think that, not enough unfortunately, but some definitely do
"First time?" - TD
"We just wanted to play games." "We just wanted to watch movies." "We just wanted to play sportsball." "We just wanted to knit." "We just wanted to trade stonks."
"we just wanted to stop the world from killing itself"
The establishment pissed off the people with the guns. Now they're going after the people with the money.
They really are suicidal.
Dear Lord, please let them start questioning the last 4 years of news. Maybe this country isn't lost.
Haha. Red-pills go brrrrrrrr!
Cracks in the matrix
Except they are all wrong about physical silver.
If silver mines are break even at $24/ounce.... don't you think they will quadruple output if sliver runs past 30$?
They are not stupid.
They are break even for now at $24 an ounce. Costs are rising. They can't quadruple output because most silver is a byproduct of mining other metals. Economy is slowing and the mining of other industrial metals will be decreasing. They may have a few easy access silver mines, but most of the good surface mines have already been depleted and they will have a much more difficult time mining deeper, less fruitful deposits. Silver is becoming scarcer as it used in all high end electronics. The price has been strongly manipulated for several reasons. 6 months ago JPM was fined 1 billion for manipulating silver.
And they probably made a profit of $20b after the fine. Fines don't work if they are built into the cost of doing business. All the manipulated profits should have been taken.
What they are mostly complaining about is how people are shilling SLV which is has a huge stake from Citadel
It's cute when normies realize they were wrong about everything.
In regards to silver.
This won’t do anything but prevent people from buying physical. The CME and bullion banks are already in collusion...
You want to make the market show the true price of gold and silver? Go after the hedge funds that are shorting gold and silver miners instead of the bullion itself.
Honestly I'm past caring... Fuck em all, nobody with any level of sanity has believed the news for years now.
Take all my keks.
Man they need to leave reddit as part of this overdue waking up process.
The Jimmy Kimmel thread earlier today was great after he called them Russian disrupters.
ok
What is the "diamond hands" meme?