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War_Hamster 3 points ago +3 / -0

The Party is an inanimate object. It's people who deserve our disdain, not a thing.

I've never been a Republican but would consider it if its leadership had integrity.

You are really starting out behind the 8-ball if you start your own party. The Libertarians have been trying for years to get on the debate stage, but are thwarted at every turn. It's not that easy.

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iDinduNuffin 2 points ago +4 / -2

That's because libertarians and their ideas are retarded and nobody likes them. How many people like Trump and his ideas which were already tried and tested? Saddling yourself with the GOP, whose entire purpose is to lose, isn't just starting out behind the 8-ball but remaining behind it forever. Trump already did the heavy lifting with breaking people out of that trap, we have the numbers, all that'd be left is to organize things. Then all the retarded establishment theater like the "debates" become as irrelevant as Biden's ghost-town rallies.

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Dereliction 0 points ago +1 / -1

The Libertarians are not a party for Libertarians, but a puppet party controlled by the DS.

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War_Hamster 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not to be argumentative, but I don't agree with your assessment of the LP being DS controlled. It is dysfunctional for different reasons.

I've been involved at the national level and walked away after observing and drawing the conclusion that they are unable/unwilling to do what it takes to be a serious party.

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Dereliction 2 points ago +2 / -0

I welcome disagreement, especially if I might be wrong. Regardless, while I do agree with your observation on its surface, I think the unable/unwillingness to be a serious party is by design.

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War_Hamster 2 points ago +2 / -0

I correspond with many of the top Libertarians on a regular basis. I don't think they are the types that are easy to infiltrate or manipulate specifically because they see a government plot lurking around every corner.

Is your scenario possible? Sure, but it doesn't fit with my personal experience, and I'm fully read in on just how deceptive the DS is. My tinfoil hats are very worn in.

The point I was making was that starting a 3rd party has immense hurdles to overcome and we need unity now, not debates about semantics. An American Party doesn't care what it's called, just what it stands for.