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tholins 32 points ago +32 / -0

Why do people seem to think the Tiananmen Square protests came at the beginning of China’s problems? (Not saying you do, but that is the inference of your statement, and I’ve seen it here before).

China had been subjected to decades of Communism at this point. Decades in which students and children had reported and condemned their elders en masse. Decades in which tens of millions starved to death peacefully. Decades in which nobody fought back in any meaningful way. Decades in which things like this weren’t seen as a problem. This only meant something because the populace needed it to.

My point is, the lesson of Communist China is that sometimes it takes a generation or two after the takeover for people to start pushing back. Sometimes it takes the brutality of cold experience to wake enough people up.

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bangbus 17 points ago +17 / -0

Chiang Kai-Shek was the rightful leader of China. Dude hated commies more than Pinochet. Taiwan is the capital of China.

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tholins 12 points ago +12 / -0

Yup. Unfortunately he wasn’t able to beat Mao after WWII.

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DonJr24 12 points ago +12 / -0

Because Mao didn't pull his own weight in fighting the Japanese. He let Chiang Kai-Shek's forces do most of the fighting and dying so that by the time the war was over, they were exhausted and more easily beaten.

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veritasvincit 4 points ago +4 / -0

Communists are master manipulators and will exploit you at any showing of weakness, then use it to destroy you.