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posted ago by UnemployedMarx ago by UnemployedMarx +18 / -2

If your wife agrees to say the traditional wedding vows of: "Will you obey him, and serve him, love, honor, and keep him in sickness and in health? And forsaking all others keep yourself only to him, so long as you both shall live?"

If your fiancee agrees to these wedding vows, your marriage will last. If she doesn't agree to those vows, your wedding won't last. It's simple stuff.

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UnemployedMarx [S] -2 points ago +1 / -3

Brah, you realize almost everyone's vows today are not what I wrote, right? The vows have changed to remove obey+serve. That's why this is actually a neat trick. You can tell if your marriage will last by whether the woman will choose to recite obey+serve. if she says no because "my equality", your marriage is doomed from the start.

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SliceOFriedGold 4 points ago +4 / -0

Some women say these exact vows and get cheated on anyway by scumbag spouses.

Your neat trick works if you don't find out your spouse is a lying sociopath after you're married with a kid on the way.

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UnemployedMarx [S] 0 points ago +1 / -1

This was from a male perspective, sorry.

I'd say the easiest way for women to tell if a man will stay faithful is if the man is less attractive than the woman. Attractive women who marry less attractive men BUT ALSO submit to the man will likely get the man to stay faithful. This guy is going to feel like he has life made and would never jeopardize his situation. The women throwing themselves at him are going to be less attractive than his wife so it'll never be worth it for him. The marriages I always see fail for women in which the woman didn't initiate the failure is when one of two things happen: The woman stops submitting to her husband and starts trying to assert herself as equal in all aspects thus ruining the power balance and her overall attractiveness to the man or the woman married a good looking guy relative to her. These men always get tempted by doing better.

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SliceOFriedGold 5 points ago +5 / -0

Not sure i agree, as it was a less attractive male, and the wife had to go to work to pay bills and both sets of debt because his useless drunk ass couldn't get a better paying job.

You boys all talk big talk but there are a lot of very conservative women out there who end up with the short end of the stick by men who are selfish lying shitbags. In an ideal world, you'd be right. But there's no accounting for immature women getting duped into a deal with a devil.

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VictorThomas451 4 points ago +4 / -0

Bang on truth.

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UnemployedMarx [S] 0 points ago +1 / -1

I mean, the situation fucked for men and women. It's too big a problem to immediately solve but I do think we can take steps toward the right direction. Getting rid of communism and its influence in society would go a long way to mending things between men and women IMO. Then sexual liberation next as that is a complete disaster. People need to start teaching morals again instead of hoping morality is just learned by osmosis. Also, wisdom needs to be taught and society needs to respect the wisdom passed on. People need to enforce things through discipline. Total freedom to do anything isn't the right way. But we're all just chugging along best we can.