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posted ago by UnemployedMarx ago by UnemployedMarx +18 / -2

If your wife agrees to say the traditional wedding vows of: "Will you obey him, and serve him, love, honor, and keep him in sickness and in health? And forsaking all others keep yourself only to him, so long as you both shall live?"

If your fiancee agrees to these wedding vows, your marriage will last. If she doesn't agree to those vows, your wedding won't last. It's simple stuff.

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FoxAintGotFriends 3 points ago +5 / -2

It's one thing to have a head of the household or guy who works and woman who stays home and raises kids but personally I'd hate to have my girlfriend, in front of a bunch of people and a priest, promise to serve and obey me. I want a partnership, not a slave. If you want total obediance you can get a dog.

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KimJung-Un -2 points ago +1 / -3

That's your interpretation. That's not where the origins come from. Obeying the husband means to trust in his decisions and respect his position as head of household. It doesn't mean to slave and be obedient like a dog lmao.

Don't worry about owning a dog. Men like you generally turn into one within a few years of a serious relationship as your woman takes control.

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FoxAintGotFriends 3 points ago +4 / -1

If it's not meant to be interpreted literally then why even say it? Either you and your wife love each other and share the same values or you don't. If a public promise is required to trust your wife then the relationship was fucked to begin with. "Obeying the husband means to trust in his decisions" - That goes both ways. Aren't you going to trust in your wifes decisions?

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KimJung-Un -1 points ago +1 / -2

A public promise? you know you can get married in private with the same vows right? It has nothing to do with declaring it publicly.

Do you even know what a promise is? Why people commit to them?

I'm not too sure what you don't understand about head of household. The buck stops there. It doesn't mean the man is right all the time.

It means the woman has decided to marry a man she deems strong and decisive and that those characteristics give her trust in his decision making and that she will respect them because of those attributes.

It doesn't mean obey him like a dog. Every partnership has a leader whether the parties believe in it, believe it, or see it. Men are supposed to be the leaders of their households.

Even in your "partnership", one of you runs the show whether you know it or not.

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viking65 1 point ago +1 / -0

Jesus told you not to make any promises